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Sources Say Crew's Heroics Saved Sub
The New London Day ^ | 1/12/2005 | Robert A Hamilton

Posted on 01/12/2005 10:26:35 AM PST by Bottom_Gun

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I found this waiting for a dental appointment ealier this morning. It brings to light something I never thought of with the flight 2 688's and the VLS system.

I also liked the part about the local chapter of U.S. Submarine Veterans. Ironic that it was a Canadian Submariner to make the first controbution!
1 posted on 01/12/2005 10:26:37 AM PST by Bottom_Gun
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To: Bottom_Gun

I don't give a damn what anyone will say, when the shit hit the fan on a ship, the first words out of anyone's mouth is "chief," BTDT.


2 posted on 01/12/2005 10:30:44 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; TEXOKIE; xzins; Alamo-Girl; blackie; SandRat; Calpernia; SAMWolf; prairiebreeze; ..
The New York Times, in its editions today, reports that the submarine hit so “incredibly hard” that about 60 of its 137 crew were injured and that the one sailor who died was thrown 20 feet by the impact, according to internal Navy e-mail messages sent by Rear Adm. Paul F. Sullivan, the commander of submarines in the Pacific.


3 posted on 01/12/2005 10:31:21 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Bottom_Gun

could someone hit the ping list with this? I'm not familiar on how to do that!


4 posted on 01/12/2005 10:31:21 AM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy)
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To: Bottom_Gun

Would a Presidential Unit Citation be appropriate?


5 posted on 01/12/2005 10:36:23 AM PST by OKSooner
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To: Trueblackman

For the uninitiated, "BTDT"?


6 posted on 01/12/2005 10:37:58 AM PST by ChromeDome (Every person's death diminishes me. Some more than others.)
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To: Bottom_Gun

Is there a submarine ping list? If there is, I'm sure my husband would like to be added to it. He's SilentServiceCPO.


7 posted on 01/12/2005 10:39:28 AM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (Schni schna schnappy, schnappy schnappy schnapp!)
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8 posted on 01/12/2005 10:40:00 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: OKSooner

Hell of a situation. Suddenly being thrown and injured then hearing all hell break loose and knowing what you do in the next minute may save or sink a ship with it's entire crew.


9 posted on 01/12/2005 10:40:00 AM PST by Bogey78O (Hillary Clinton + Fertility pills + Scott Peterson + rowboat = Success)
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To: OKSooner
To the men that configured the saving valve solution to keep the boat afloat. This is why there is submarine qualifications.
10 posted on 01/12/2005 10:42:07 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: ChromeDome

Been There Done That


11 posted on 01/12/2005 10:42:22 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: Bottom_Gun
Submariners around the country were poring over charts of the area where the San Francisco hit the seamount and were coming to the same conclusion: The ocean bottom was supposed to be more than a mile below where the San Francisco hit.

So the Skipper's career may not be over.

12 posted on 01/12/2005 10:42:43 AM PST by berkeleybeej (A DUmmie stole my tagline!!)
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To: Calpernia

The sub crews we have always have been the best on the planet. This just further proves the point.


13 posted on 01/12/2005 10:45:45 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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To: Bottom_Gun

Just to answer that question ALREADY answered on at least 4 other posts...
1.No, Submerged subs don't use active sonar to determine position... it gives thier location away
2.No, the earthquake had nothing to do with it, different teconic plate
3.No, there are no windows to look out of....
4. No subs don't use conventional sealanes, they use thier own lanes which are pretty well documented
5. No, the skipper is not necessarly toast, if it was an uncharted seamount
Seamounts sometimes occurr with out any sismic signature, they just ooze lava and build up like stalagtites


14 posted on 01/12/2005 10:47:35 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: ex 98C MI Dude

I'll be interested to read more detailed information on the damage.

Excellent skipper and crew!


15 posted on 01/12/2005 10:49:29 AM PST by El Gran Salseron ( The replies by this poster are meant for self-amusement only. Read at your own risk. :-))
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To: OKSooner

Hmm..that's an interesting question, I'll have to look up the requirments for the PUC. If not that maybe Navy Accomindation Medal (NAM) for the entire crew, awarded by the group, or Squadren commander?


16 posted on 01/12/2005 10:50:19 AM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy)
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To: Robe
"No, there are no windows to look out of...."

LOL, I'm not savvy about subs, but I did know that.

17 posted on 01/12/2005 10:50:49 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: berkeleybeej

correct.......


18 posted on 01/12/2005 10:52:18 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: ChromeDome

Been There, Done That.


19 posted on 01/12/2005 10:52:24 AM PST by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: ChromeDome
For the uninitiated, "BTDT"?

Been There, Done That...bought the T-Shirt *L*
they have a wonderful BTDT one with dolphins on it here at the Exchange here at Sub Base!
20 posted on 01/12/2005 10:53:31 AM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy)
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