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Sources Say Crew's Heroics Saved Sub
The New London Day ^ | 1/12/2005 | Robert A Hamilton

Posted on 01/12/2005 10:26:35 AM PST by Bottom_Gun

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To: Bahbah

No windows, no balconies to step out for a smoke either????


41 posted on 01/12/2005 11:23:58 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: newsgatherer

That is right....there was no sub...It was a hoax. /sarc

I'm pinging the story, NOT the rag!

Calm down.


42 posted on 01/12/2005 11:28:49 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Bottom_Gun
I did not know that SBNs had diesel engines?

Mike

43 posted on 01/12/2005 11:32:59 AM PST by MichaelP
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To: Robe

Uncharted sea mount, not very likely! I would sure like to look at the damage when it gets to dry dock and see if it was not another sub they hit, as in Chinese or Russian.

Both sides play cat and mouse games to determine what the other side has.


44 posted on 01/12/2005 11:35:33 AM PST by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Pilot, Pharmacist. (Oil Field Trash was the most fun.))
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To: Robe

6. Guam to Brisbane is a well traveled route.
7. Transiting at 30+ knots, > 400 feet is routine.


45 posted on 01/12/2005 11:37:52 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: ChromeDome

"Been there, done that".


46 posted on 01/12/2005 11:38:48 AM PST by miele man
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To: ChromeDome

"BTDT", "Been there, done that". I should add, "GTTS" meaning "got the tee shirt". Hence, "BTDT GTTS"


47 posted on 01/12/2005 11:40:16 AM PST by miele man
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To: MichaelP
Nuclear submarines have diesel for backup power. Batteries also.

The first time we anchored in HK harbor, we ran the reactor for 5 days. The next time (8 days) we shut the reactor down and ran the diesel. We nukes qualified DG watch as this method resulted in more liberty for the nukes but the A-Gang was not happy.

48 posted on 01/12/2005 11:42:46 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: MichaelP
I did not know that SBNs had diesel engines?

It's a 850 Kw (if memory serves) emergency diesel. In that class it's in the bottom compartment in the middle of the ship, rihgt under the crew's mess. It's basicaly enough to run the Emergency Propulsion Motor (EPM) which in that class is basically an electric motor that works like a large jacking gear. Older classes had an EPM where the shaft itself was the rotor and could be disengaged from the main engines. It will get you home at about 3 knots, and it's not a pleasant ride. That class also has a Secondary Propulsion Motor (SPM) which is sort of like a trainable electric outboard motor in the aft ballast tank, raised lowered and rotated by hydraulics. It's basically used for maneuvering alongside a pier or tender I would hate to have to try to get home on that.

49 posted on 01/12/2005 11:51:50 AM PST by atomic_dog (Once upon a time EM 1 (SS) - SSN's 614, 688, 692)
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To: Jambe
Based upon the reported damage and the fact that it is over 20 years old, it will most likely be decommissioned.

That's a shame ... her midlife refueling overhaul finished in 2002 and she was good to go for the second half of her career.
50 posted on 01/12/2005 11:53:42 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: OKSooner
Would a Presidential Unit Citation be appropriate?

No, a PUC is supposed to be awarded for extraordinary heroism in action against an armed enemy.

51 posted on 01/12/2005 11:58:17 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: atomic_dog
I would hate to have to try to get home on that.

That's what tugs are for.

52 posted on 01/12/2005 12:05:11 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: El Gran Salseron

Might be island sometime in the future.


53 posted on 01/12/2005 12:19:52 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Bottom_Gun

Thanks for the update. I was one of those who said the captain's career was toast, but it sounds like the facts are developing in his favor. It sounds like he did a good job of getting his crew home.


54 posted on 01/12/2005 12:20:26 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Non-Sequitur

Thanks.


55 posted on 01/12/2005 12:21:48 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: PAR35

At least he did a good job in ensuring his crew was prepared for the emergency. Drills are routine but when a third of your crew are instantaneously injured and all are totally disorganized by the sudden and unexpected collision ...

They were lucky. Apparently all systems were functioning and an emergency blow got them to the surface where they had time to perform the damage control functions.


56 posted on 01/12/2005 12:24:12 PM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Doohickey; SilentServiceCPOWife; SilentServiceCPO

Doohickey - Here are some more names for the "Steely-Eyed Killers of the Deep" ping list.


57 posted on 01/12/2005 12:48:07 PM PST by PogySailor
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To: atomic_dog
It's basically used for maneuvering alongside a pier or tender I would hate to have to try to get home on that.

Not as much as you hate trying to get home without it, under the wrong circumstances...

58 posted on 01/12/2005 12:55:12 PM PST by null and void (I refuse to live my life as if someone, somewhere will be offended if I laugh...)
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To: Calpernia; Boot Hill

Thanks for the ping.

An uncharted seamount.....who would have thunk it?


59 posted on 01/12/2005 1:08:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: PogySailor

Thank you.


60 posted on 01/12/2005 1:13:07 PM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife
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