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Did Vanderjagt Put Foot In Mouth?
CT Now ^

Posted on 01/12/2005 11:52:50 AM PST by bikepacker67

FOXBORO, Mass. -- Peyton Manning, who rarely speaks ill of anyone, referred to his teammate, kicker Mike Vanderjagt, as "an idiot kicker" before the 2003 Pro Bowl.

Vanderjagt, who handed the Patriots a 27-24 opening night victory when he missed a 48-yard field goal that would have sent the game into overtime, has been cementing his reputation for running off at the mouth. After the Colts beat the Broncos last Sunday in Indianapolis to set up Sunday's playoff against the Patriots, Vanderjagt said that the Patriots, who beat the Colts in last season's AFC Championship Game, aren't as good as they once were and "I think they're ripe for the picking."

Most Patriots declined to comment on Vanderjagt's statement.

"You're asking me to comment on what a kicker said?" linebacker Tedy Bruschi said.

But safety Rodney Harrison, never scared to make his feelings known on or off the field, couldn't resist a swipe.

"He has to be a jerk, Vanderjerk," Harrison said.

Bill Belichick declined to comment on what Vanderjagt said, but the Patriots coach did admit that he sometimes has used what opposing players say to motivate his team.

"I'm sure he'll be out there a few times in the game to do his one special thing," Belichick said. "I don't think this game is going to be decided by some comments ... in the paper."

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1 posted on 01/12/2005 11:52:50 AM PST by bikepacker67
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To: bikepacker67

go colts


2 posted on 01/12/2005 11:55:47 AM PST by kingattax
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To: bikepacker67

Much to do about nothing.


3 posted on 01/12/2005 11:58:37 AM PST by Always Right
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To: kingattax
go colts

Go Pats!

4 posted on 01/12/2005 11:58:51 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: kingattax
All the pressure is on the Colts.

Manning is the poster-child for big game chokers, and Foxboro is his recurring Waterloo.

5 posted on 01/12/2005 11:59:18 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: bikepacker67

New England 33
Indianapolis 29


6 posted on 01/12/2005 12:02:03 PM PST by agenda_express
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Colts 28- Pats 13


7 posted on 01/12/2005 12:02:49 PM PST by Alex Marko
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To: bikepacker67

this is peyton's year


8 posted on 01/12/2005 12:03:11 PM PST by kingattax
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To: bikepacker67
Manning is the poster-child for big game chokers

Tell that to the Broncos and the Chiefs. He dominated them in the playoffs. (In my mind, any playoff win is a big win.)

9 posted on 01/12/2005 12:03:21 PM PST by KJacob (If I yawn it is only in anticipation.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Indy 37, Pats 27...Colts over Philly 45 to 31 in the Bowl...(and no, I'm not drinking...yet)


10 posted on 01/12/2005 12:04:24 PM PST by nicko (CW3 (ret.) CPT, you need to just unass the AO; I know what I'm doing- that goes for you too, Major)
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To: bikepacker67

remember brett favre's problems in dallas ?...he got over that....peyton will too


12 posted on 01/12/2005 12:04:32 PM PST by kingattax
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To: bikepacker67

None of this matters. Year after year, the Patriots seem to be unbeatable, despite the odds, who's injured, or how the stats match up. It's like they keep the "Arc of the Covenant" in their locker room or something. They would have won three Bowls in a row, had they not lost that tiebreaker to the Jets 2 years ago (which the Jets painfully squandered against the awful Raiders).


13 posted on 01/12/2005 12:05:43 PM PST by montag813
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To: Alex Marko

Nah, the Pats won't be held to 13. Too efficient on offense, and the Colts are not quite strong enough on D to hold them down like that.

If the Colts win, it'll be something like 35-27. Same if the Pats win.


14 posted on 01/12/2005 12:06:00 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
"Psh niether has a chance once my Jets get done with the Steelers."

Good one.

Pittsburg 27
NY Jets 13

15 posted on 01/12/2005 12:06:22 PM PST by agenda_express
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To: kingattax
this is peyton's year

Record setting QBs rarely win the big one. Marino, Kosar come to mind.

16 posted on 01/12/2005 12:06:23 PM PST by montag813
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To: kingattax
It's NOBODYS "year" - and NEVER IS.

Not Manning's, not Rothlisberger's, not the Eagles... and not Brady's.

It's the year of whoever executes - whoever doesn't blink.
And Peyton's history has shown that he DOES BLINK.

17 posted on 01/12/2005 12:06:46 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: bikepacker67
"Is this the game where Peyton finally solves the Patriots? No, because there doesn't need to be a game where Peyton "finally solves the Patriots."

The Colts have lost to the Patriots three times over the past two seasons. Manning only played badly in one of those games, the AFC Championship Game.

In this year's opener, he threw for 256 yards and two touchdowns and had the Colts in position for a game-tying field goal only to see Mike "Money" Vanderjagt honk it.

Last year during Week 13, he threw for 278 yards and four touchdowns and marched the team down to the goal line to win the game only to have Edgerrin James stuffed three times. Manning isn't losing to the Patriots by himself. This is a team effort."


Courtesy of ESPN.

18 posted on 01/12/2005 12:07:02 PM PST by harbinger of doom
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To: bikepacker67
"Manning is the poster-child for big game chokers."

Right now, it's still has to be Jim Kelly. But Manning is still relatively young. Remember, to BE the man...

19 posted on 01/12/2005 12:07:47 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: bikepacker67
Manning is the poster-child for big game chokers

Not true. That was the story last year, but he's been great in the playoff last year and this year...except for his problems in Foxboro

20 posted on 01/12/2005 12:08:34 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: bikepacker67

lol...you need to cut back on the caffeine amigo


21 posted on 01/12/2005 12:09:05 PM PST by kingattax
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To: bikepacker67

Pats by 3 (a last second Vinateri kick, of course)

New England has a REAL kicker (or at least a real good one).


22 posted on 01/12/2005 12:09:07 PM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: bikepacker67

As a Pats fan, I'd say the Pats have a lot of pressure. True, a lot is made about the Pats beating the Colts, but it's not quite at the point where people just assume that they'll win, like when the Yankees played the Red Sox before the '04 ALCS. But right now, most people are favoring the Colts because of the injuries the Pats have suffered of defense, and because there's a lot of support for Peyton Manning to come through.


23 posted on 01/12/2005 12:10:14 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: montag813
They would have won three Bowls in a row, had they not lost that tiebreaker to the Jets 2 years ago (which the Jets painfully squandered against the awful Raiders).
That's only because the Packers laid down and spread like $3 whores in the last game of the regular season.

What a freakin letdown! After we came back to shock the fins.

24 posted on 01/12/2005 12:10:25 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: montag813

I don't think they'd have won two the Super Bowl years ago. They were 9-7 and couldn't stop the run to save their lives.


25 posted on 01/12/2005 12:12:35 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: kingattax

Once he got the record out of the way, Peyton has looked like a man on a mission. Especially Sunday vs. the Broncos. The guy is fricking awesome, especially considering that he's not very athletic. IMO 90% of Peyton's success is pure determination to excel. Eli is the one who's almost a clone of their father in a physical and athletic sense, but he's very laid back and reserved, dead opposite of Peyton.

MM


26 posted on 01/12/2005 12:12:40 PM PST by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: baseballfanjm

correction:

won two the Super Bowl years ago= won the Super Bowl two years ago


27 posted on 01/12/2005 12:13:31 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: kingattax

I agree with him though. Remember last year, how everyone and their grandmother was jumping on the Brett Favre bandwagon? And then they blew it against Philly. Three years ago, it was all about "The Greatest Show on Turf", and how the Rams were destined to go down in history as one of the greatest teams of all time... and then the Super Bowl came around.


28 posted on 01/12/2005 12:16:25 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: bikepacker67
Manning is the poster-child for big game chokers

I'm no big Colts fan, but I have to remember someone else as having that title...


29 posted on 01/12/2005 12:17:57 PM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: montag813
They would have won three Bowls in a row

They should not have been in the Super Bowl vs the Rams. Thanks to the refs blown call in the Raiders game. But..since I hate the Raiders and the Rams who cares.

30 posted on 01/12/2005 12:20:35 PM PST by JackDanielsOldNo7 (Jack Daniels is so good you can feel a straight shot all the way to your toes.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

"Psh niether has a chance once my Jets get done with the Steelers".

HA H HA HA HA HA HA

Superbowl Falcons
Colts


31 posted on 01/12/2005 12:24:38 PM PST by Independentamerican (Independent Junior at the University of MD)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ; agrace

Yeah right. A rested Steeler team will take this one.


32 posted on 01/12/2005 12:25:00 PM PST by lightingguy (Go Steelers!!)
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To: bikepacker67

If I was Mr. Vandeerjerk, I would exit the field very quickly after kicking the ball........


33 posted on 01/12/2005 12:25:46 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: MississippiMan
peyton broke a record many said wouldn't be broken. can you imagine marino with a running game like manning had this year ? scary thought.

the colts have too many weapons and if they lose to the pats i will be very surprised. i think all this "peyton is a choker" thing is unfair and will get put to bed where it belongs.

sorry, pats fans, just my opinion.

34 posted on 01/12/2005 12:28:20 PM PST by kingattax
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7
They should not have been in the Super Bowl vs the Rams. Thanks to the refs blown call in the Raiders game

My point exactly. This is why I think they may keep the "Arc of the Covenant" in their locker room!

35 posted on 01/12/2005 12:33:25 PM PST by montag813
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To: Alex Marko; nicko

I'll say it again--Go Pats!

But, it wouldn't surprise me if this is Peyton's year. He's been awesome.


36 posted on 01/12/2005 12:34:53 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: montag813

Wouda couda shouda

3 bowls in a row.

In order to be considered a super bowl winner, it helps to actually win one. not woulda, but actually playing in the game and walking off the field as a winner.

I actually have come to like Peyton, even though I'm from Baltimore.


37 posted on 01/12/2005 12:39:49 PM PST by dmz
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To: baseballfanjm
most people are favoring the Colts because of the injuries the Pats have suffered of defense

True, but did you see that article the other day about how the Steelers being trapped in a Miami hotel during one of the Florida hurricanes is what brought their team together and started them on their dominating path? Well, the Pat's injury situation is like a hurricane stranding a week and shared adversity is a pretty good motivator sometimes.

Pats by 9 - a Vinitari FG and a Vrabel TD reception.

38 posted on 01/12/2005 12:43:34 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: bikepacker67
The media always tries to stir the pot in the week leading up to play-off football. It's predictable ... gives them something to write about and the call in sports shows get to pump it even more. As far as the game goes ... the Pats had better pray for a snowstorm at game time ... because without one, Manning is going to kick serious butt. My prediction Colts win by at least two TD's.
39 posted on 01/12/2005 12:48:29 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: kingattax
remember brett favre's problems in dallas ?...

Yes, quite clearly. He NEVER won a playoff game there, so, no he never got over it. Peyton may win a game in Foxboro...someday...but not Sunday.

40 posted on 01/12/2005 12:49:20 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: bikepacker67

Go away, Colts. LA will take you. We don't want to waste 500 million dollars on the stadium you are blackmailing us for.


41 posted on 01/12/2005 12:49:47 PM PST by mysterio
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To: Always Right

The dog barks and the caravan moves on.


42 posted on 01/12/2005 12:50:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: bikepacker67

I don't think it's fair to say Peyton is a "choker" after the way he has played other teams in the playoffs the past 2 years. The Patriots just have his number, but that doesn't make him a choker.


43 posted on 01/12/2005 12:50:58 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: kingattax

The Colts are Payton - the Pats are a team. Watch what a team can do on Sunday. I guess it will take 3 Superbowls to know why its Brady not Manning.


44 posted on 01/12/2005 12:51:29 PM PST by Kitty D
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To: montag813

Yeah, I've never seen a defending Super Bowl champion given such little respect, especially one that went 14-2 and has won 2 of the last 3 SBs.


45 posted on 01/12/2005 12:52:37 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: bikepacker67


46 posted on 01/12/2005 12:54:03 PM PST by Radix (Post Tag Lines: the breakfast of FReepers.)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
Psh niether has a chance once my Jets get done with the Steelers

OH YEAH!!! FUC*IN' AY!!!!!!!

47 posted on 01/12/2005 12:54:05 PM PST by JoeV1 (The Democrats-The unlawful and corrupt leading the uneducated and blind)
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To: kingattax
the colts have too many weapons and if they lose to the pats i will be very surprised.

The Colts took advantage of the situation against Denver two weeks ago. They had the opportunity to choose who they would face in week one of the playoffs, and they picked Denver, for a very simple reason. In order to get into the playoffs, Denver had to show the best they had against the Colts' 'B' team. Meanwhile, all the Colts had to do was watch. They had video of everything Denver was capable of doing against them. The result was an embarrassing loss for Denver.

However, New England could see what the Colts were doing, too. As a result, Belichick has had nearly three weeks to devise a method for defeating the Colts. I don't give any team that gives him three weeks to prepare much hope.

Pats by 28 - 21.

48 posted on 01/12/2005 12:55:50 PM PST by azsportsterman
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To: baseballfanjm
I'd say the Pats have a lot of pressure

Well, there's always pressure in a playoff game. Manning and the Colts have had it drilled into their heads that they can't beat the Pats. They know if they lose again, those statements will just get louder and louder. You don't think that creates pressure?

But right now, most people are favoring the Colts

And THAT is why there is more pressure on Indy, than the Pats.

49 posted on 01/12/2005 12:57:35 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: JackDanielsOldNo7
" They should not have been in the Super Bowl vs the Rams."

Payback for the bogus penalty in the playoffs against the Raiders back in 1976?

50 posted on 01/12/2005 12:59:22 PM PST by Radix (Post Tag Lines: the breakfast of FReepers.)
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