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Republican to Lead Immigration Revolt Against Bush
Reuters ^ | Jan 12, 2005 | Alan Elsner

Posted on 01/12/2005 12:50:36 PM PST by GOPXtreme20

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To: GOPXtreme20

Voted for Bush, love Pres Bush as a person & president....broken glass republican. BUT....I am P.O.'d about immigration, so this is welcome news.


52 posted on 01/12/2005 1:25:25 PM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: Dane
Hillary has adopted the Buchanan/Tancredo line on immigration hoping to get votes in 2008. It will probably work as there are plenty of people on this site who have already said they will vote for her if she promises to implement their agenda on immigration.
53 posted on 01/12/2005 1:26:14 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: Mamzelle
Tingle to your own jingle. In my neck of the woods (which has an unemployment rate of 9%) the illegals do the landscaping and carpentry as well as House Slave for the Lady. Wages for construction jobs have taken a dive, and the employers prefer the illegals because the illegals are scared of exposure and are properly grovelling to da Kind Massa Padron. Once they have amnesy, the present illegals will lose these jobs to the illegals who come after, because the chief attraction of these workers is the very fact that they're illegal.

I'd like to see these employers in jail

And to further your theme let's bulldoze these "impure" buildings built by illegal labor, damn the people who may lose their house or business, we have a purification process to go through.

54 posted on 01/12/2005 1:27:00 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: hushpad

I live in SoCal and observe the same. I have a pretty good career now, but I have worked as a mechanic and driven truck to pay for college and grad school. Such work is below no one. It may not be pleasant, but it is honest labor.


55 posted on 01/12/2005 1:27:12 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: GOPXtreme20

Karl Rove though he could walk all over Tom Tancredo. He was wrong and Americans are right who are against your insane amnesties and cave ins to the illegal alien lobby.


56 posted on 01/12/2005 1:27:32 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Jmouse007

Dittos!!!!


57 posted on 01/12/2005 1:27:50 PM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: GOPXtreme20

Read later bump


58 posted on 01/12/2005 1:28:26 PM PST by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: rdb3
"I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants."

She didn't say she hated them, and I guess her next quote will be is that she is against pardoning FALN terrorists.

59 posted on 01/12/2005 1:28:44 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: jveritas; Howlin; bayourod
Hopefully this will lead to one thing and that is Tom Tancredo becoming persona non grata in the Republican Party just like his idol Pat Buchanan now is. Of course this means we’d have to see Tancredo doing the talk show circuit as the MSM’s token “Republican” and listen to him complain how evil the Republican Party is because it won’t listen to him.
60 posted on 01/12/2005 1:30:47 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: Dane
She didn't say she hated them...

Right. I admitted as much in my last post. I couldn't remember word-for-word, but "adamantly against illegal immigrants" is using emotional words. It was a play up on her part.


61 posted on 01/12/2005 1:31:17 PM PST by rdb3 (Real men don't whine. It's 2005 and everyone's gonna feel it this year.)
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To: COEXERJ145
Hillary has adopted the Buchanan/Tancredo line on immigration hoping to get votes in 2008. It will probably work as there are plenty of people on this site who have already said they will vote for her if she promises to implement their agenda on immigration

Yeah it's sad that they are willing to have at least another 4 years of selling military secrets to the chicomms with hillary, just because of an incessant irrational animus towards people who clean toilets and roof houses in 100 degree heat.

62 posted on 01/12/2005 1:32:09 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: Dane
Jail would be just fine for these anti-American lawbreakers. I'm not holding my breath, though. The slaveholders have a pretty good grip on Bush and top GOPers. Gotta keep those fairways green for the Rich Guy to amuse himself...

I do think that there's a potential means for employers to get their butts sued--civil rights violations, restraint of trade, trafficking in quasi-slavery, maybe even RICO. Then they couldn't even afford slave wages to get their toilets scrubbed for them.

63 posted on 01/12/2005 1:32:37 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: COEXERJ145
Of course this means we’d have to see Tancredo doing the talk show circuit as the MSM’s token “Republican” and listen to him complain how evil the Republican Party is because it won’t listen to him

JMO, he's kinda of like hillary, it's all about him.

64 posted on 01/12/2005 1:33:38 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: RKV

live in SoCal and observe the same. I have a pretty good career now, but I have worked as a mechanic and driven truck to pay for college and grad school. Such work is below no one. It may not be pleasant, but it is honest labor.


Thanks RKV. I myself waited on tables and worked at a car wash (back-breaking!), of course, that was a long time ago.

We need these kind of jobs for teens, or those who do not finish high school, all kinds of reasons to have jobs available that do not require a higher education.


65 posted on 01/12/2005 1:33:39 PM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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To: Mr. Mojo
You think that the 180+ House Republicans that will be supporting Tancredo in this matter are all single-issue politicians

Bush will get a large part of his immigration proposal through the House with support of 180+ House Republicans. The guest worker regularization proposal will be modified, but some portion is going to pass. Bet on it.

66 posted on 01/12/2005 1:34:59 PM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: Dane
I surmise you will be the first in line tomorrow morning to take a janitorial or housekeeping position.

Maybe not me, but I want entry level jobs for my kids and know that they're not made to fell as second class citizens in their own counrty because they don't speak another language.

67 posted on 01/12/2005 1:35:44 PM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: Dane
Oh, your heart does bleed, doesn't it? And, lacking any clear moral purpose, you decide to try to angle into the race baiting.

But I'll bet your heart doesn't bleed even a little bit when the hospitals face foreclosure because of the demand for uncompensated care (the law demands that ERs treat everyone)...or the US children in the schools their parents support can't take art or music because the budget has to go for "English as a second language."

Your heart only bleeds for you and your own lazy self-interest.

68 posted on 01/12/2005 1:35:45 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
IMO, you have issues with people who are successful for the crime of building buildings or farmers who need people to pick their produce.
69 posted on 01/12/2005 1:36:36 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: GOPXtreme20

I'd back Tancredo.


70 posted on 01/12/2005 1:37:38 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: GOPXtreme20

I like Bush and voted for him, but he is plain wrong on the immigration issue.


71 posted on 01/12/2005 1:38:22 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (I am poster #48)
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To: COEXERJ145

Has anybody besides me noticed that the ONLY "Republican" involved in all these "press releases" is Tom Tancredo?

He has a better PR machine than Judicial Watch every thought about having. Does he send out fund raising letters, too?


72 posted on 01/12/2005 1:39:03 PM PST by Howlin (I need my Denny Crane!)
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To: Mamzelle
But I'll bet your heart doesn't bleed even a little bit when the hospitals face foreclosure because of the demand for uncompensated care (the law demands that ERs treat everyone)...or the US children in the schools their parents support can't take art or music because the budget has to go for "English as a second language."

Huh nothing about other factors such as lawyers closing down hospitals with their incessant lawsuits and nothing about school vouchers where parents could pick their own school.

73 posted on 01/12/2005 1:39:45 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: GOPXtreme20

Tancredo and Zell Miller need to go pay ol' Dubya a visit and 'splain this matter to him and get his thinkin' straightened out on this issue. Thank the good Lord Dubya won the election, but on this issue, that boy ain't right!


74 posted on 01/12/2005 1:40:47 PM PST by OB1kNOb
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To: Dane
one issue Republicans hate that same business becuase it doesn't employ the right kind of people.

Correct, with the "right kind of people" being either Americans, or foreigners who are in the U.S. legally and who have the legal right to work here. Companies that hire illegal aliens are in violation of federal law. You don't condone violating federal law, do you?

75 posted on 01/12/2005 1:41:47 PM PST by usadave
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To: Dane
In your opinion you should get your lawn mowed for nearly free and shiftless wifey shouldn't have to learn to wash a dish. I know that this flood of lawlessness is profoundly destabilizing.

May these lawbreakers land in jail.

Failing that, may these lawbreakers face a class action of angry taxpaying and lawabiding citizens who are tired of footing the bill (in the collapse of social services) so that a few LAZY BUMS AND THEIR LAZY CONCUBINES can enjoy the privilege of being waited on for cheap.

76 posted on 01/12/2005 1:41:49 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Budweiser

I'm pulling for Tancredo also. I wish I could move into his district in Colorado. Thanks for the ping.


77 posted on 01/12/2005 1:42:30 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: usadave

Not only condones, but I'll bet profits from it. Could swear bayourod was around here somewhere...


78 posted on 01/12/2005 1:42:45 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
In your opinion you should get your lawn mowed for nearly free and shiftless wifey shouldn't have to learn to wash a dish. I know that this flood of lawlessness is profoundly destabilizing.

May these lawbreakers land in jail.

Failing that, may these lawbreakers face a class action of angry taxpaying and lawabiding citizens who are tired of footing the bill (in the collapse of social services) so that a few LAZY BUMS AND THEIR LAZY CONCUBINES can enjoy the privilege of being waited on for cheap

Dude, I'm serious taks a chill pill, your rantings are doing your position no good, but for some reason I think you will be like a democrat and not take some helpful advice

79 posted on 01/12/2005 1:45:10 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: Howlin
Tancredo is being willfully disingenuous in this latest exercise of self-aggrandizement. He said 180+ Republicans are against any amnesty. There is no amnesty in the President's proposal. That's an ongoing deceit foisted by the demagogues. There are sanctions and fines and vettings involved in the regularization program.

President Bush is not going to make any formal proposal that will engender the opposition of 180 House Republicans, and the House Republicans would never initiate such legislation in the face of such opposition. This is just another example of a powerless backbencher positioning himself for a national run.
80 posted on 01/12/2005 1:46:42 PM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: usadave
Correct, with the "right kind of people" being either Americans, or foreigners who are in the U.S. legally and who have the legal right to work here. Companies that hire illegal aliens are in violation of federal law. You don't condone violating federal law, do you

Dude the law ain't working and people aren't going to send people to jail for taking a janitorial job and there are not going to be any mass roundups.

Call me a traitor, whatever, but I think it is better to get these people above board and bring some sanity to the system rather than the 40 years of chaos since LBJ dismantled the guest worker program.

81 posted on 01/12/2005 1:48:26 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: COEXERJ145
Outside of this forum and others like it, you will find most people are not obsessed to the point where they're about to keel over from an aneurysm when it comes to immigration.

You complain and whine so much on these illegal immigration threads that I'm surprised you haven't yet keeled over from an aneurysm.

82 posted on 01/12/2005 1:48:26 PM PST by usadave
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To: GOPXtreme20

Kudos to Tom Tancredo. Don't back down.


83 posted on 01/12/2005 1:48:44 PM PST by reelfoot
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To: Jmouse007
Agreed. I approve of the President on many issues, but not on allowing hordes of immigrants in or giving illegal immigrates _any_ status in the USA. This is the same goofy approach that destroyed the Roman Empire. It is also a big part of why USA, isn't really much like the USA anymore.

These people don't know or care what a Constitutional Republic looks like, they are only interested in our money. Ie., taking our jobs and/or government money.

When a country is both rich and becomes stupid enough that it cannot protect itself from other countries, those other countries are going to take a huge spoil someday (no doubt about it). Either by force or via civil means. Duh.

84 posted on 01/12/2005 1:50:29 PM PST by veracious
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To: GeorgiaConservative
Bush right on most things.

TERRIBLY WRONG on Illegal Immigration and Border Integrity, though. Fully bumping here and supporting dissident Republican Members of the House to force this issue and prevail upon the majority's behalf.

We must take on and win over those who make a sham of legal immigration, order and respect for our laws. Not carrying out existing US law, too, as a member of the Executive Branch, is beyond deplorable.

This situation is no longer sustainable nor worthy of further defense or rationalization.

85 posted on 01/12/2005 1:51:54 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Anyone else see irony in prioritizing Iraq [w/no nukes] as N. Korea kept on making nukes [9 now] ?)
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To: Dane
And to further your theme let's bulldoze these "impure" buildings built by illegal labor, damn the people who may lose their house or business, we have a purification process to go through.

What a silly thing to say.

86 posted on 01/12/2005 1:52:42 PM PST by usadave
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To: Barlowmaker

There are sanctions and fines and vettings involved in the regularization program.


Do you have details about the program? I'm curious how it's going to be implemented and enforced.


87 posted on 01/12/2005 1:53:01 PM PST by cassie22
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To: Dane

I personally think that you would rather have the illegals do all of the Blue-collar jobs that working Americans need to do to support their families. What part does the word "ILLEGAL" don't you understand? I would rather pay more of my hard-earned money for an American to do my job over an illegal alien.


88 posted on 01/12/2005 1:53:20 PM PST by GOPXtreme20
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To: GOPXtreme20

I look forward to the outcome of this issue. It will be interesting to see if President Bush will be able to implement his proposed solution to the problem or not. If not, hopefully some other solution will be attempted. One thing is for sure, the status quo is not a good thing.


89 posted on 01/12/2005 1:53:47 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: Dane

Right, leave those jobs to the sub-humans.


90 posted on 01/12/2005 1:54:13 PM PST by waverna (I shall do neither. I have killed my captain...and my friend.)
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To: Dane
Call me a traitor, whatever, but I think it is better to get these people above board and bring some sanity to the system rather than the 40 years of chaos since LBJ dismantled the guest worker program.

How about short sighted and uninformed? You seem to forget we had an amnesty for illegal aliens in 1986 and a half dozen mini amnesties since then, why not let every one from any country into the US? Heck give drug dealers and thieves amnesty while we are at it, they are just doing the jobs no one else wants to do...

91 posted on 01/12/2005 1:55:07 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: COEXERJ145
... dozens of self professed "conservatives" on this site have already announced that they will vote for Hillary Clinton for President as long as she promises them she'll follow their agenda on immigration.

Name one. If there are dozens, it shouldn't be too tough for you to come up with one "conservative" that has said they will vote for Hillary because of her (supposed) stance on immigration.

I take the illegal alien invasion as seriously as anyone, and there is no way I would vote for Hillary regardless of what she has to say.

92 posted on 01/12/2005 1:55:26 PM PST by spodefly (This message packaged with desiccant. Do not open until ready for use or inspection.)
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To: GOPXtreme20
I personally think that you would rather have the illegals do all of the Blue-collar jobs that working Americans need to do to support their families. What part does the word "ILLEGAL" don't you understand? I would rather pay more of my hard-earned money for an American to do my job over an illegal alien.

You're wrong, but are you now going to mandate that someone has to be a janitor or housekeeper.

Also do you or any American parent want their children to be a janitor for a career.

93 posted on 01/12/2005 1:57:39 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: RKV
We can fix the part about Americans not being willing to work. End welfare. Thats about all it takes.

Talk about spending political capital! (LOL) But you are exactly right.

94 posted on 01/12/2005 1:58:05 PM PST by Chuckster ("Silence is not golden. It is yellow" Senator Zell Miller)
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To: GOPXtreme20
Bush expressed confidence he could win over opponents, as he did in passing tax reform during his first term. "Initially out of the box, some people said, over my dead body would they pass tax relief ... If I listened to all that, I'd just quit, you know. But that's not the way I think.">

Not the same. One is a change in the way we are taxed - he lowered them. The other will force an increase in local taxes to pay for the extra costs.

We have to stop Bush on this one.

95 posted on 01/12/2005 1:58:07 PM PST by raybbr
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To: Dane
Also do you or any American parent want their children to be a janitor for a career.

Better that than on welfare. And worked as a night janitor for a year to pay for grad school.
96 posted on 01/12/2005 2:00:09 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: cassie22
Here's the CNN report last week

This report doesn't mention it, but the 2004 initiative required a $1500 fee for every illegally resident foreign national who wanted to access this program. I would make sure that this penalty was in the new program as well as a punishment for their illegal entry.

97 posted on 01/12/2005 2:01:39 PM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: RKV
Better that than on welfare. And worked as a night janitor for a year to pay for grad school

I also notice that you didn't make being a janitor a career.

98 posted on 01/12/2005 2:03:04 PM PST by Dane (trial lawyers are the parasites to wealth creating society)
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To: GOPXtreme20
KEYWORDS: ALIENS; BUSHAMNESTY; [deleted]NOTDANEAGAIN; CONTRACTORDANE; DANELOVESBACA; DANES[deleted]CKS; ILLEGALALIENS;

What's up with all the "DANE" stuff in the Keywords? I don't get it.

Anyone?

99 posted on 01/12/2005 2:03:20 PM PST by newgeezer (When encryption is outlawed, rwei qtjske ud alsx zkjwejruc.)
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To: Barlowmaker
This issue is going to make the California Governor's race look like a Sunday picnic around here. Ah-Nold v. Tom is nothing compared to George v. Tom.

Tancredo undoubtedly has enough support to get some modifications to Bush's proposal, but he won't have the juice to stop it completely.

100 posted on 01/12/2005 2:03:32 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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