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Democrat Urging Anti-Bush Boycott (Sore Losers Alert)
Las Vegas SUN ^ | January 11, 2005 | Adrienne Schwisow

Posted on 01/12/2005 4:53:49 PM PST by Jacob Kell

DETROIT (AP) -

David Livingstone says the idea behind the economic boycott he's organizing is simple: If people don't show up at work or buy things, companies lose money. As he sees it, that's money the Bush administration can't tax, and can't use to run the war in Iraq, protect polluters or chip away at the Constitution.

So the Detroit Democrat and a handful of other anti-Bush groups across the country are urging others of like mind to withhold their cash and labor on Inauguration Day - from all businesses. They don't think they'll inflict a huge economic pain, but they do want to make a point.

"I view the inauguration of Bush as a black Thursday for this country," Livingstone says. "We've tried marching in the streets to stop the war, we tried writing letters, we tried initiatives on the Web, but Bush doesn't listen. It seems to us the only thing Bush and the Republicans will listen to is money."

Livingstone, a 41-year-old writer, hopes to be in Washington for the Jan. 20 festivities, which for him means protests, black armbands and backs turned to the parade route.

And he's vowing not to buy gas, food or use his credit card that day: He wants the GOP, big oil, big banking, big box stores and any other "bigs" to know they can't push him around or ignore him - at least not on Jan. 20.

The White House is taking all the boycott talk in stride. Bush "is proud that we live in a society where people are free to peacefully express their opinions," spokesman Jim Morrell says.

Other groups nationwide, many loosely connected through the Internet, have put out calls similar to Livingstone's. Jesse Gordon, 44, of Cambridge, Mass., spreads the word through his Web site, Not One Damn Dime!

Gordon doesn't expect to shake the economy, but does want to see the president recognize dissent.

"I think Bush should acknowledge the boycott. If we're effective, he'll know about it, and he should acknowledge it," Gordon says.

In New Orleans, Buddy Spell says his January 20th Committee eagerly endorses the idea of an economic boycott. He remains primarily concerned with organizing a jazz funeral procession through the downtown to mourn a second Bush term and what he calls the death of democracy. But he says a boycott is worth pursuing, in part because it can help unite disparate anti-Bush forces.

The groups hope to see several million people eating brown-bag lunches and dinners on Inauguration Day. If people don't want to boycott all business, the groups suggest buying from just those that support Democrats. The protesters say they'll measure success not in economic terms, but by whether people know about the boycott and if it sparks future activism.

And if there's by chance a blip in the GDP, that would be a bonus.

A bonus indeed, say economists and historians.

"I can't imagine it would have any impact whatsoever," says David J. Vogel, professor of business ethics at the University of California at Berkeley. "Even if everyone didn't buy on that day, they'd make up for it the next day."

Historian Lawrence Glickman says boycotts rarely accomplish any substantial economic goal, and if they do, it's usually because they are tailored to a specific product. Boycotts tend to have more success applying political pressure, but even that is limited.

Still, he said, their record of failure never seems to stop Americans from launching them.

"There's this appeal about boycotts, anyone can take part in them and you can use your pocketbook to express your dissatisfaction," says Glickman, who studies labor and consumer activism at the University of South Carolina in Columbia.

"It's a way of feeling like we're participating in something bigger than ourselves."

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On the Net:

Black Thursday: http://www.black-thursday.com

Not One Damn Dime!: http://www.notonedamncime.com/boycott/

Jazz Funeral for Democracy: http://www.jazzfuneralfordemocracy.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana; US: Massachusetts; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bush; du; dummies; election04; election2004; gordon; inaugerationday; livingstone; spell
What a bunch of crybabies. No wonder they lost the Election. Note to all Freepers...buy more on the 20th.
1 posted on 01/12/2005 4:53:50 PM PST by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell

This idiot should ask the wizard for a brain!


2 posted on 01/12/2005 4:55:13 PM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: Jacob Kell

This doofus was on Hannity and Colmes last night. It was fun watching Ann Coulter make fun of this guy. He ended up getting frustrated and resorted to name calling has libs usually do. Sean asked him if he liked anyone in the Bush administration and he responded by saying no and that they are all bafoons. BAFOONS, I tell ya. The only bafoon I saw was him.

Anyone else see this?


3 posted on 01/12/2005 4:56:46 PM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Jacob Kell

So the Detroit DEMOC and a handful of other anti-Bush groups

4 posted on 01/12/2005 4:58:11 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Jacob Kell

Well, looks like California and New York better brace themselves for the upheaval. They'll be the only ones affected.


5 posted on 01/12/2005 4:59:03 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Jacob Kell

Last year, when gas started rocketting sky high, a "gas revolt" was staged. It was all over the internet and a lot of people were talking about it. What happened (I own a gas station) was that everyone that had plans on going somewhere came and filled their car up on the day before the revolt. The people who did not buy gas on "revolt" day.
My sales for revolt day were about 10% less than usual but the sales for the day before and after were about 25-30% higher. I wish there would be a "gas revolt" at least twice a month!


6 posted on 01/12/2005 4:59:12 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: Jacob Kell
When will the DUfusses of the world realize the "don't buy anything on this day" scheme DOES NOT WORK!?

They'll refrain from capitalism on the 20th, meanwhile they buy more than they need on the 19th to 'stock up' or twice as much on the 21st because 'they're out of...' whatever. The stupid scheme has absolutely no economic impact whatsoever on the country as a whole. What a bunch of A*-holes.

7 posted on 01/12/2005 5:04:00 PM PST by infidel29 (America is GREAT because she is GOOD, the moment she ceases to be GOOD, she ceases to be GREAT - B.F)
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To: infidel29

But it makes them FEEEEEEEEL so good!


8 posted on 01/12/2005 5:07:37 PM PST by Bob Mc
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To: Jacob Kell
This is not new.

Democrats have been trying to undermine the economy for 4 years.

Tom Daschle was defeated for reelection because he was the standard-bearer of Democrat obstructionism!

9 posted on 01/12/2005 5:08:11 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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To: Jacob Kell

Daggone, I should have waited until the 20th to buy my new TV!

All boycotts like this do is make people look stupid. As the prof from UC Bezerkeley said, they'll make up for it the next day, or the next. And as for the jobs? Seems they'd only be hurting themselves.


10 posted on 01/12/2005 5:09:36 PM PST by Theresawithanh (2005! My resolution: FReep even MORE this year!!!)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

Let me see if I understand this: Democrat voters don't want to work and are blaming republicans for this?


11 posted on 01/12/2005 5:10:44 PM PST by gortklattu (As the preacher in Blazing Saddles said "You're on your own.")
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To: Jacob Kell
If people don't show up at work or buy things, companies lose money.

Yup. And when that happens, companies will cut their largest expense---payroll.

Dimms really are evil idiots.

12 posted on 01/12/2005 5:12:45 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: infidel29

What would be great is if enough people heard about this to have the opposite effect. An anti-boycott if you will. Been saving up for a new TV, car, or airplane? Buy it on that day.


13 posted on 01/12/2005 5:16:31 PM PST by farfromhome (I guess this space is too sma...)
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To: HarleyD

California ILLEGALS are already boycotting - gasoline on Mondays. Bunch of illegal losers


14 posted on 01/12/2005 5:18:42 PM PST by newfrpr04
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To: Jacob Kell
If people don't show up at work or buy things, companies lose money.

So do the people who don't show up for work.

Mind you, Livingstone is a writer. If that's of the freelance variety, he doesn't have a company to show up at work for in the first place. He risks nothing.

15 posted on 01/12/2005 5:24:03 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Jacob Kell
If people don't want to boycott all business, the groups suggest buying from just those that support Democrats.

In that case, it should be a big day for adult book stores, head shops and abortion mills!

16 posted on 01/12/2005 5:28:30 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Yup. And when that happens, companies will cut their largest expense---payroll.

Most of these kooks don't work, anyway ...

17 posted on 01/12/2005 5:29:21 PM PST by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god)
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To: rockabyebaby
Harumph... I can go days and days without spending money. Never thought that hurt anyone.

Saw this guy on Fox last night; he is a self serving, kool-aid addict.

18 posted on 01/12/2005 5:30:46 PM PST by WarPaint (%^$# mecca. Be done with it. (Is this OK Admin?))
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To: newfrpr04

Maybe the ILLEGALS should make Mondays "Go back to Homeland day". I'm sure we all would be appreciative.


19 posted on 01/12/2005 5:34:25 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: Jacob Kell
"Note to all Freepers...buy more on the 20th."

I will buy lots of goodies when I am in D.C. on the 20th, celebrating the Inauguration of President Bush.

20 posted on 01/12/2005 5:35:13 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: Jacob Kell
Does that mean there won't be all those "Won't Work for Food" people on the exits??

Pray for W and Our Troops

21 posted on 01/12/2005 5:38:15 PM PST by bray (The First of 4 More Years!)
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To: Jacob Kell
This guy was interviewed by Michael Medved for an hour.

He uses hook that he used to be a Reagan Republican.

After listening to this guy it was obvious that he was a liar. He was as committed Marxist as there ever was.

They lie about being former Republicans to give credibility to their pile of manure.
22 posted on 01/12/2005 5:40:02 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (pun my typo if you dare.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

They were sooooo successful in their - anyone but Bush campaign - that they want to extend it to yet another fiasco.


23 posted on 01/12/2005 6:19:46 PM PST by chase19
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To: Jacob Kell

I don't live in America right now, but thanks for posting this! There are lots of things not available here in Japan that I order off the Internet from companies back home in the US. I haven't made a big order in a while, and the to-buy list is getting long. Guess who's gonna be dusting off the old Visa card on innaugeration day and ordering a bunch of stuff online from good ol' red white and blue companies? I hope they can buy at least one Daisycutter with the tax revenue I generate!


24 posted on 01/12/2005 6:42:21 PM PST by gringo_in_Akita
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

As noted in earlier post, this is one of Karl Rove's subtlest and most brilliant schemes. These buffoons are going to hurt businesses that cater to liberals or hire them. Voluntarily. Where can one sign up to encourage them to extend the boycott thru the weekend?


25 posted on 01/12/2005 6:54:44 PM PST by bt_dooftlook (Democrats - the "No Child/Left/Behind" Party)
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To: Jacob Kell
"I think Bush should acknowledge the boycott. If we're effective, he'll know about it, and he should acknowledge it,"

Yeah, right. I'm sure W beleieves the same as all of us here. These guys are idiots. If he acknowledges them at all it will be laughing and pointing at them as the parade goes by. He'll know who they are as they will be the ones with their backs turned. Attention fellow FReepers in DC, this will be a good time to stick the sign on their backs that states "KICK ME!"

26 posted on 01/12/2005 6:58:51 PM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (Idaho Carnivores for Conservatism)
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To: Jacob Kell
["We've tried marching in the streets to stop the war, we tried writing letters, we tried initiatives on the Web, but Bush doesn't listen.]


I think I saw all 17 of these kooks on TV about a year and a half ago. Now they just sit over at the DUnderhead site and try to one-up each other's conspiracy theories.

Sad.
27 posted on 01/12/2005 7:08:37 PM PST by spinestein
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To: Jacob Kell

[If people don't show up at work or buy things, companies lose money. As he sees it, that's money the Bush administration can't tax, and can't use to run the war in Iraq, protect polluters or chip away at the Constitution.]


...or pay entitlement benefits.

Still think this is a good idea, David?


28 posted on 01/12/2005 7:15:10 PM PST by spinestein
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To: Jacob Kell

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/not1dime.asp

Snopes.com did a great hit piece summary on this stupid idea yesterday. The very last line is excellent:

"As a functional protest, this one is equally off the mark. Although a boycott can be an active form of protest (even though boycott participants are in effect doing nothing, they're following a course of action that directly affects the object of their protest), boycotts succeed by causing economic harm to their targets, thereby putting them out of business or at least requiring them to change their policies in order to remain in business. But the target of this boycott isn't an entity that has the power to bring about the desired resolution (i.e., the government) — those who will be economically harmed by it are innocent business operators and their employees. These people have no power to set U.S. foreign policy or recall troops from Iraq, but they're the ones who would have to pay the price for this form of protest, incurring all their usual overhead costs (e.g., lighting, heat, refrigeration) to keep their businesses open and paying employees' salaries, all the while taking in little or no income. (And no, it doesn't all even out in the end — restaurants, for example, aren't going to recoup their lost business through boycott participants' eating twice as much the next day.)

Whether the desired goal is laudable or not, a protest that has little chance of succeeding at its purpose but a high likelihood of harming innocent parties does no one any good. As we always say about these kinds of things, results are generally proportional to effort: If the most effort one is willing to put into a cause is to do nothing, then one should expect to accomplish nothing in return."


29 posted on 01/12/2005 7:22:19 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Jacob Kell
Agree.

I made my shopping list with products from companies listed at http://www.boycottbush.net/

I would also support Florida and Ohio products.

At the end of the day, go have dinner at a restaurant and tip the waiter/waitress in the name of republicans that support working people and minorities more than democrats.
30 posted on 01/18/2005 3:19:33 PM PST by gerardo_001
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To: Jacob Kell

What a wimp, if he really meant it he should"
Stop paying mortgage or rent.
Stop showing up for work and enabling 'the man'.
Stop buying groceries.
Stop paying the gas, electric, waste bills and encourage his loopy followers to do the same.

That'll show us!


31 posted on 01/18/2005 3:24:14 PM PST by Lx (If dolphins are so smart, why do they live in igloos?)
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