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Abortion Isnít About Choice
NewsMax ^ | 1/13/05 | Nathan Tabor

Posted on 01/12/2005 6:04:52 PM PST by wagglebee

As we prepare to celebrate next week’s gala Inauguration Day festivities in Washington, D.C., conservatives need to remember some grim realities. For the past four years we have had both a Republican president and GOP majorities in Congress, yet we have not significantly reduced the number of deaths by abortion in this country.

In fact, in the 32 years since 1973, when Roe v. Wade became the law of the land, more than 45.5 million unborn children in America have been sacrificed to the gods of selfishness, hedonism and personal convenience. That comes out to well over 4,000 infanticides per day for three-plus decades.

Put in historical perspective, the abortion industry in America has slaughtered seven times as many helpless children as Adolf Hitler murdered Jews during his infamous Final Solution.

What is the difference between Hitler and abortion? The world banded together and stopped Hitler.

These sobering facts cause me to contemplate just why this is happening in a nation founded on morals and values. One simple answer comes to mind: It is done for “the love of money which happens to be the root of all evil.”

With that in mind, let’s examine the profits of Planned Parenthood, the nation’s most prominent provider of so-called “abortion rights,” as revealed in its 2003-04 Annual Report.

* Planned Parenthood clinics performed 244,628 surgical abortions, an increase of 6.1 percent. A total of 3.5 million surgical abortions have been performed at PP clinics since 1970.

* Planned Parenthood clinics grossed $302.6 million last year, with $104 million coming from surgical abortions.

* Total PP income for the year was $810 million, with one-third of that, or $265.2 million, coming from public funds given by our elected officials.

* The PP organization has earned net profits for the past 18 years in a row, totaling $538 million.

Meanwhile, private donations to Planned Parenthood dropped for the second time in three years, and the number of PP-operated clinics declined from 866 to 849.

“Increases in abortions, more money from taxpayers’ pockets, and bigger profit margins – all while clinics are closing down and donations are dwindling. That is the state of Planned Parenthood,” said Jim Sedlak, executive director of American Life League’s watchdog agency, STOPP International.

“This report shows the public is increasingly rejecting Planned Parenthood’s radical agenda, but apparently our elected officials haven’t gotten the message. Now is the time for Americans to expand the growing efforts to close Planned Parenthood clinics and to put pressure on politicians to stop the obscene amount of money that is being funneled into the nation’s largest abortion chain.”

WHY do elected officials give so much of our tax money to Planned Parenthood? WHY does “abortion on demand, and without excuse” remain legal, when a majority of Americans oppose the gruesome practice?

The answer is MONEY. Huge sums of money are spent by lobbyists and media groups, greasing politicians’ palms and simultaneously putting public pressure on them to kowtow to the radical feminists’ clamor for “reproductive choice.”

My own short-term, “out of the box” idea is simple. Since Liberals want free health care, let’s use their own argument against them. If a doctor performs abortions, he can’t charge for his services. It has to be free. I guarantee thatnthousands of doctors would quit performing abortions immediately. They believe in “choice” because it lines their wallets.

On January 24, hundreds of thousands of pro-life Americans will converge on the Ellipse for the annual March for Life to the Supreme Court and Capitol, to publicly protest the 32nd anniversary of Roe v. Wade. They will be demanding an end to the indefensible, immoral practice of legalized abortion in America.

Our newly inaugurated Christian president and ostensibly conservative lawmakers should pay attention – and take decisive action.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; babybutchers; infanticide; plannedparenthood; prolife; roevwade
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Put in historical perspective, the abortion industry in America has slaughtered seven times as many helpless children as Adolf Hitler murdered Jews during his infamous Final Solution.

What is the difference between Hitler and abortion? The world banded together and stopped Hitler.

Our newly inaugurated Christian president and ostensibly conservative lawmakers should pay attention – and take decisive action.

He is absolutely right and I wish the GOP would stand up and let the country know it.

1 posted on 01/12/2005 6:04:54 PM PST by wagglebee
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He is absolutely right and I wish the GOP would stand up and let the country know it. And someone needs sensitivity training. Do you have no feeling for the mother? Her needs? Denote heavy sarcasm. On the serious side, I agree with you. With the majority increased, we should be in better shape to push that agenda. We can at least put that in motion.
2 posted on 01/12/2005 6:09:42 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: writer33

Damn it. Screwed that up again. Computer challened, idiot.


3 posted on 01/12/2005 6:10:24 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: wagglebee

Absolutely! The President and the GOP in general need to be more aggressive about overturning Roe Vs. Wade.


4 posted on 01/12/2005 6:11:07 PM PST by bushinohio
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To: writer33
Do you have no feeling for the mother? Her needs?

She should keep her clothes on, get off welfare and get a job. (Absolutely no sarcasm)

5 posted on 01/12/2005 6:12:08 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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Abortion is not about saving women’s lives!

Total Abortions since 1973

44,670,812

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Why the drop after 1960? (in deaths of women from illegal abortions)

The reasons were new and better antibiotics, better surgery and the establishment of intensive care units in hospitals. This was in the face of a rising population. Between 1967 and 1970 sixteen states legalized abortion. In most it was limited, only for rape, incest and severe fetal handicap (life of mother was legal in all states). There were two big exceptions — California in 1967, and New York in 1970 allowed abortion on demand. Now look at the chart carefully.

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Abortion Statistics - Decision to Have an Abortion (U.S.)

· 25.5% of women deciding to have an abortion want to postpone childbearing

· 21.3% of women cannot afford a baby

· 14.1% of women have a relationship issue or their partner does not want a child

· 12.2% of women are too young (their parents or others object to the pregnancy)

· 10.8% of women feel a child will disrupt their education or career

· 7.9% of women want no (more) children

· 3.3% of women have an abortion due to a risk to fetal health

2.8% of women have an abortion due to a risk to maternal health

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So how many women’s lives have been saved by abortion?

Only about 3% of abortions since 1972 were reported to be “due to a risk to maternal health.” A reasonable person would recognize that not all of those cases represent a lethal risk. But let’s say they did. That means that nearly 45 million fetuses were butchered to save the lives of about 1.3 million women. Or put another way; 35 babies are killed to save each woman.

Abortion was legal in all 50 states prior to Roe v. Wade in cases of danger to the life of the woman.

6 posted on 01/12/2005 6:13:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Thank you, Swift Vets!!!)
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I have given this a lot of thought (and yes, I know this may not be a very popular opinion), and I think that an "agreement" could be reached where a law could be passed whereby abortion and capital punishment would be banned simultaneosly. I firmly believe that capital punishment will be ruled unconstitutional within a decade and I think we should be willing to "put this issue on the table" as a form of "bargaining chip."


7 posted on 01/12/2005 6:17:29 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee
Capital punishment is not the moral equivalent to abortion...
8 posted on 01/12/2005 6:24:30 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: wagglebee

A serial killer cannot be compared to an innocent baby.


9 posted on 01/12/2005 6:26:31 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: frog_jerk_2004

In no way whatsoever am I saying that abortion and capital punishment are morally equivalent. What I am saying is that conservatives could make a point where liberals are forced to acknowledge that if capital punishment is wrong than abortion must be as well.


10 posted on 01/12/2005 6:29:12 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: frog_jerk_2004

You are absolutely right. However, I see the key to overturning Roe v. Wade to be making the public aware that abortion is MURDER.


11 posted on 01/12/2005 6:31:34 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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I believe capital punishment is warranted in extreme cases. This is not morally wrong and does not conflict with my faith as long as truth prevails and every measure is taken to be as sure as we can that justice will be done. That said, capitulating on Capital punishment would be morally wrong because it would pervert justice in extreme cases and would weaken the moral argument.

I believe it is fine for people to believe no one should be killed because there are other ways to deal with extreme criminals (life in prison, justice and the law is upheld), that is their choice and belief (Absolute pro-life). But, it is morally wrong to believe individuals should have a sole right to terminate anyone's life for any reason. Killing someone in legitimate self-defense is one reason why someone would morally just to kill someone else, in a just war as a soldier would be another case. It is never permitted to kill innocents.

Why innocent children should have to pay with their life for the so-called "mistakes" of others is beyond my comprehension.

12 posted on 01/12/2005 6:47:42 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: wagglebee

I also appreciate the civil discussion on the topic.


13 posted on 01/12/2005 6:48:37 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: wagglebee



"Put in historical perspective, the abortion industry in America has slaughtered seven times as many helpless children as Adolf Hitler murdered Jews during his infamous Final Solution."


Let's not be too PC and let the women who consent to the procedure off the hook for their responsibility in all this. (Although I am not completely oblivious to Abortion idustry exploitation.)


14 posted on 01/12/2005 6:53:42 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: frog_jerk_2004
I agree with you. And for the record, I am not at all opposed to capital punishment. However, I think the "writing on the walls" is there, O'Conner has basically said that she would vote to ban capital punishment given the right case; also, the United States is one of the only democracies that still allows it. I really think it will be abolished, and if it is I think we could find a way to gain something from it.

Like you, I cannot fathom why anyone would be so selfish as to kill a baby for mere convenience. The problem is that the pro-abortion crowd has done a far better P.R. job than we have.

15 posted on 01/12/2005 6:54:24 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: wagglebee
I have given this a lot of thought (and yes, I know this may not be a very popular opinion), and I think that an "agreement" could be reached where a law could be passed whereby abortion and capital punishment would be banned simultaneosly. I firmly believe that capital punishment will be ruled unconstitutional within a decade and I think we should be willing to "put this issue on the table" as a form of "bargaining chip."

No bargaining allowed. We win with total victory. That's the only way you can have a lasting end to this kind of debate. If you start bargaining here, they'll press for it in other places.

16 posted on 01/12/2005 6:54:41 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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She should keep her clothes on, get off welfare and get a job.

You evil, sexist, conservative pig. Denote more sarcasm.

On the serious side, I see your point.

17 posted on 01/12/2005 6:56:08 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: wagglebee
the United States is one of the only democracies that still allows it. I really think it will be abolished, and if it is I think we could find a way to gain something from it.

Here's a question: Of the democracies that have banned capital punishment what good has come of it in those countries?

Actually, you could say that these democracies have actually swung the other way since capital punishment has been banned and are now pro-euthenasia states.

I think banning capital punishment actually shows a great disrespect for life because it proves that the society will not go the full measure to exact justice in extreme cases.

If live in prison meant life in prison I think most reasonable people, not all, would agree to abolishing the death penalty. The problem is that all you need is one pardoning liberal (Clinton comes to mind) and justice is perverted...

18 posted on 01/12/2005 7:05:57 PM PST by frog_jerk_2004
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To: wagglebee

bump


19 posted on 01/12/2005 7:06:43 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: wagglebee

Thank you so much for starting this superb thread. The information is right on and I'll be filing this as a keeper - for debating and also writing on the topic - letters to the editor, etc.

Some say that it will take a heart change to turn back Roe v. Wade. I contend that the hearts of a very large number of Americans are now ready for this change - or Bush would not now be President. Values Voters were the largest contingent who voted him in and abortion is one of their top issues of concern.

If even 30% of churches across America had ministers urging their parishioners to be more vocal with their representatives at both the state and federal levels - we'd see some positive movement happening. I urge everyone to speak with their minister - and if your minister doesn't take action, then make yourself a committee of one in encouraging others to write letters, join a prolife organization and become active.

Am I saying the answer is in the political arena?

You bet. Because most people's hearts already feel abortion is wrong. I repeat: Most people's hearts already feel abortion is wrong.

And it is only through our government system that this heinous atrocity can be reversed. The time is here and we need to act. Pray, pray, pray.....and take action.


20 posted on 01/12/2005 7:08:10 PM PST by SeasideSparrow
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