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9.0 on ungrateful scale-Thanks for the help, but now get out,Indonesian veep tells U.S. soldiers
New York Daily News ^ | 1/13/05 | CORKY SIEMASZKO

Posted on 01/13/2005 4:09:46 AM PST by kattracks

The Indonesian government yesterday showed its appreciation to U.S. soldiers who have been risking their lives helping tsunami victims by ordering them to get out of the country by the end of March.

"Three months are enough," Vice President Jusuf Kalla told the official Antara news agency. "In fact, the sooner [they leave] the better."

Kalla's government also forced the Abraham Lincoln, from which Navy pilots have flown dozens of food supply missions to the hard-hit Aceh Province, to steam out of Indonesian waters because they refused to let U.S. pilots fly training missions in their air space.

The Indonesians also refused to let the Marines coming ashore rebuild roads, establish a base camp or carry arms.

Lynn Pascoe, the U.S. ambassador to Indonesia, reacted to Kalla's ingratitude by declaring that American troops will help as long as they were needed and "not a minute later."

But in Washington, White House spokesman Scott McClellan demanded "further clarification from Indonesia about what this means."

"We hope that the government of Indonesia and the military in Indonesia will continue the strong support they have provided to the international relief efforts so far," he said.

Although most Indonesians have expressed thanks for U.S. help, nationalist politicians in the world's most populous Muslim country have been grumbling about "American interlopers."

Indonesia's new president, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, is a former general in a country that has been under martial law for much of its recent history.

Always wary of America, Indonesia reluctantly allowed U.S. soldiers in when it became clear it could not deal with the aftermath of the Dec. 26 tsunami on its own.

Yudhoyono's government also moved to reassert control over wave-walloped Aceh by ordering aid workers and journalists to declare their travel plans - or face expulsion.

"It is important to note that the government would be placed in a very difficult position if any foreigner who came to Aceh to assist in the aid effort was harmed through the acts of irresponsible parties," the government said in a statement.

The Indonesian government was referring to the rebels who have largely stayed out of the way as the international rescue missions have been mounted.

With News Wire Services

Originally published on January 13, 2005



TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allahswill; disasterrelief; humanitarianrelief; indonesiangratitude; indonutstoya; ingrates; islandsofresentment; letthejunglehelpthem; sumatraquake; thanksnoweffyou; timeforallahtodie; ussuckers; wewantmoney
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1 posted on 01/13/2005 4:09:47 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

What more can the world expect from Muslims?


2 posted on 01/13/2005 4:14:33 AM PST by tkathy (Ban all religious head garb.)
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To: kattracks

Mu-slime gratitude at its finest.


3 posted on 01/13/2005 4:15:36 AM PST by rickmichaels ("We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way." - Toby Keith)
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To: kattracks

"the sooner, the better"

Well, what the hell are we waiting for?


4 posted on 01/13/2005 4:16:14 AM PST by Dr. Marten
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To: kattracks

Give them a bill for the amount money we have spent and get out. Thank you very much A--h's.


5 posted on 01/13/2005 4:16:45 AM PST by G-Man 1
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To: kattracks
I donated to the India Gospel Mission, which works directly with my church. Our Church members regularly rotate through their mission field on short term mission trips, so we actually get to see the projects they build and the people they help.
6 posted on 01/13/2005 4:16:52 AM PST by keats5
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To: kattracks

To hell with him! I say we stop giving aid of any kind to all nations with this attitude.


7 posted on 01/13/2005 4:17:05 AM PST by squidward
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To: tkathy
It is called blackmail and extortion.

You want a ceasefire, then you order all the foreigners out and have the UN pay us to do the work.

Terrorism pays.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

8 posted on 01/13/2005 4:17:54 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: tkathy

The radical Muslims have had to curtail Christian slaughtering while the relief effort has been underway. As soon as they remove the aid and relief workers, their living hell can resume.


9 posted on 01/13/2005 4:18:34 AM PST by doosee
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To: kattracks
"It is important to note that the government would be placed in a very difficult position if any foreigner who came to Aceh to assist in the aid effort was harmed through the acts of irresponsible parties," the government said in a statement.

Like if someone was converted to Christianity. Blech!

To me it sounds like the president wants people who would see that the money is spent on the victims out so he can squirrel away the cache for his own benefit. If there's no oversight, the donations could easily end up in the hands of al Qaeda.

10 posted on 01/13/2005 4:20:10 AM PST by randita
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To: kattracks

Maybe this was behind Powell's statement.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1317543/posts


11 posted on 01/13/2005 4:21:18 AM PST by keats5
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To: kattracks

No problem...FARTS on you!.....


12 posted on 01/13/2005 4:21:47 AM PST by Route101
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I hate to say it but the sooner the better for me as well. It makes me nervous having them there, especially since the marines had to agree not to carry weaponry. It's like inviting the muslims to commit some atrocities.


13 posted on 01/13/2005 4:22:03 AM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: kattracks

Leave now!!!!!!


14 posted on 01/13/2005 4:24:10 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: kattracks

"Three months are enough,"

Why wait that long? Let's get out NOW.


15 posted on 01/13/2005 4:27:20 AM PST by Old Grumpy
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To: squidward

Now we know where we should not have sent our personal contributions. I am truly sorry that the Indonesian government hates itself so much that it fears being made to look lesser by accepting aid. The government would look better by having its priorities straight.

The focus should be on helping the victims of the disaster, not the victims of bad government in Indonesia. That the government would offer up human sacrifices to recover its own ego is what is saddest of all.


16 posted on 01/13/2005 4:32:12 AM PST by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: kattracks

Goodnight sweetheart...well it's time to go....


17 posted on 01/13/2005 4:34:06 AM PST by Route101
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To: kattracks
I spent several years in Indonesia and am familiar with Aceh in particular. The populous parts are all situated in the low lying coastal plains and this fact, coupled with the very flimsy construction and severe overcrowding of what are, in effect, shanty towns, leads me to believe the toll is very large - Larger even than what is now being reported.

On the point of this thread:

The Gov't is completely corrupt and severely represses the population - Hence the concern that outside influences might take hold during the aid efforts. The longer these take, or are allowed to continue, the more outside influence will be possible and the more the people will see just how repressive and ineffectual the Gov't is in meeting the needs of the survivors. This more than anything would explain the need to strictly control aid activities and curtail them as much as possible.

IMO another example of a Gov't more concerned with self-preservation than the welfare of those it "Governs" - Sound familiar?

18 posted on 01/13/2005 4:39:32 AM PST by drt1
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To: kattracks

Typical response from most countries in the world toward the US, especially a muslim country.

Just another reason why we should NOT give aid to any country that does not support the US on international matters. For too long these countries have observed that the more anti-American that they are, the more money that we give them based on our misconception that doing so will make them like us more.

Whiny child screams for a new toy.

Mommy and Daddy give whiny child a new toy to shut him up.

Whiny child screams for another new toy.

Mommy and Daddy give whiny child another new toy.

Whiny child grows up and brutally stabs Mommy and Daddy to death because they won't give him a car.


19 posted on 01/13/2005 4:41:41 AM PST by ArmedNReady (Islam, the cancer on humanity.)
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To: kattracks

9.0 on the ungrateful scale? Looks like a perfect ten to me.


20 posted on 01/13/2005 4:43:09 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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