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New U.S. Dietary Guidelines: Eat Less, Exercise More
msn ^ | 1-13-2005 | Amanda Gardner, HealthDay Reporter

Posted on 01/13/2005 12:03:53 PM PST by Nachum

WEDNESDAY, Jan. 12 (HealthDayNews) -- Americans need to consume fewer calories and exercise more to maintain a healthy weight, according to new dietary guidelines released Wednesday by the federal government.

"Let's face it. Every American is looking for a pill. It's not going to happen," U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson said at the Washington, D.C., news conference announcing the guidelines.

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1 posted on 01/13/2005 12:03:55 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

I could've told people this years ago.

Its common sense.


2 posted on 01/13/2005 12:05:50 PM PST by kemathen7
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To: Nachum

Really none of the government's business.

Except for the fact that half of all Americans get their health care from the government.


3 posted on 01/13/2005 12:06:54 PM PST by KidGlock (W-1)
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To: kemathen7

But we need the government to tell us what to eat. Government knows best.


4 posted on 01/13/2005 12:07:22 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: kemathen7

That is why we pay these guys the big bucks.


5 posted on 01/13/2005 12:07:42 PM PST by conservlib
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To: Nachum
you lower your fat, your carbs

The first step in acknowledging the Atkins' revolution. The old food pyramid was built on carbohydrates.

6 posted on 01/13/2005 12:08:35 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Nachum
To lose weight, eat less and exercise more.

I WANT AN IMMEDIATE INVESTIGATION OF HOW MUCH OF OUR TIME AND MONEY WAS WASTED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT A NEWBORN RETARDED MONKEY KNOWS!!!!

7 posted on 01/13/2005 12:08:42 PM PST by TheBigB (Life is good. It'd be better if Jaime Pressly was here naked with a pizza. But it's still damn good)
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To: Nachum

That's posted right next to "You are here"


8 posted on 01/13/2005 12:08:45 PM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: Nachum

Brilliant!


9 posted on 01/13/2005 12:10:34 PM PST by loborojo (What the hell is a "Reagan Democrat"?)
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To: Nachum

How much are we paying these geniuses?


10 posted on 01/13/2005 12:10:37 PM PST by dagogo redux (I never met a Dem yet who didn't understand a slap in the face, or a slug from a 45)
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To: Nachum

--thermodynamics rules---


11 posted on 01/13/2005 12:10:53 PM PST by rellimpank (urban dwellers don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm)
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To: Nachum

Also chewed on yesterday at:

U.S. Government Updates Diet Rules for Next Food Pyramid
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1319369/posts


12 posted on 01/13/2005 12:11:46 PM PST by Boundless (It's a pyramid scheme, I tell ya.)
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To: TheBigB
I WANT AN IMMEDIATE INVESTIGATION OF HOW MUCH OF OUR TIME AND MONEY WAS WASTED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT A NEWBORN RETARDED MONKEY KNOWS!!!!

Good idea. I'll organize a committee to draft a plan to secure proposals on the feasibility of studying the matter.

13 posted on 01/13/2005 12:12:00 PM PST by malakhi
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To: Nachum

Wow. I used to think that eating more and exercising not at all was the answer. Guess I can stop doing that, now.


14 posted on 01/13/2005 12:12:58 PM PST by seacapn
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To: Nachum

DUH!!!!


15 posted on 01/13/2005 12:13:42 PM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: Nachum

Yeah, Tommy, but when the various medical groups keep putting out standards for weight that define starving men in Ethiopia as obese, we stop listening to them.


16 posted on 01/13/2005 12:14:48 PM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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To: Nachum

DUH!!!


17 posted on 01/13/2005 12:15:14 PM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: Nachum

Another person of my acquaintance died of complications after a stomach stapling operation. The medical community halted that procedure here in MA for a time, but reinstated it. Since obesity is a growing problem (no pun intended), and since people of low means cannot afford the best of diets, there is a market for a pill (moderately priced), that would satisfy dietary requirements, etc.. I expect to see infomercials touting this in a matter of months. Somebody's going to make a mint.


18 posted on 01/13/2005 12:15:18 PM PST by hershey
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To: Nachum

Damn, I had it backwards!


19 posted on 01/13/2005 12:16:42 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: hershey

"since people of low means cannot afford the best of diets"

These people are on welfare and get food stamps no excuse for a poor diet no matter what your situation, you can always find food, hell there's an art (if you will) called dumpster divin', from what I hear plenty of restaurants throw away good edible food so even if you're homeless you can find decent things to eat, where there's a will there's a way.


20 posted on 01/13/2005 12:18:03 PM PST by rockabyebaby (What goes around, comes around!)
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To: TheBigB

Your comment on "retarded newborn monkey's is a tad insensitive.


21 posted on 01/13/2005 12:19:10 PM PST by albie
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To: Nachum

Oh, gosh! Really? I wonder how much this boondoggle cost us.


22 posted on 01/13/2005 12:19:53 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Nachum
In the future, I picture all Americans, dressed in matching speedos, up at 6:00 am, standing in straight narrow lines before the local magistrate, doing their exercises like good little socialists?

The Chinese aint got nothin on us now, do they? /sarcasm
23 posted on 01/13/2005 12:21:00 PM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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To: Nachum

I wonder if this will end up in the what do we do without experts section of Best of the Web.


24 posted on 01/13/2005 12:26:05 PM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: hushpad
In the future, I picture all Americans, dressed in matching speedos, up at 6:00 am, standing in straight narrow lines before the local magistrate, doing their exercises like good little socialists?

Led my John Speedo Kerry on his $5,000 bike.

25 posted on 01/13/2005 12:30:14 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: albie; TheBigB
OTOH The Insensitive Retarded Monkeys would be a great band name!
26 posted on 01/13/2005 12:35:35 PM PST by OSHA (Moosenami - Waves of crazed moose thought to be caused by earthquakes deep under the fjords.)
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To: Nachum

I get all warm and fuzzy thinking about how much our government cares for us. I love being in the big Federal Family. :)


27 posted on 01/13/2005 12:35:42 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Cobra64

Led my John Speedo Kerry on his $5,000 bike


Afterwards, rum-raisins for all!


28 posted on 01/13/2005 12:37:47 PM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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To: kemathen7
I could've told people this years ago. Its common sense.

Yeah, but could you have blown a couple million bucks in the process? If not, a compelling state interest would have gone unmet.

/sarcasm

29 posted on 01/13/2005 12:38:13 PM PST by freespirited
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To: Nachum
New U.S. Dietary Guidelines: Eat Less, Exercise More

WHEN, OH WHEN WILL ALL OF THESE WACKY EATING AND EXERCISE FADS JUST GO AWAY?!?!

30 posted on 01/13/2005 12:41:13 PM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: Aquinasfan
Lower your fat, you lower your calories. Exercise and the carbs are your fuel. Sit on your butt and carbs go to said butt. The main reason most people do not exercise is "excuses." They always have an "excuse" why they don't have time to exercise. They have time to sit and watch Dukes of Hazard or Steinfeld reruns one hundred times, or eat three whoppers with extra large fries, with that diet coke (like it would matter after consuming over 3,000 calories), but they don't have time to exercise.

After retiring from the Army, I did not want to run anymore. 35 miles a week for 20 years wore my knees out. I got lazy, sat on my butt, ate, and got fat. 275 pounds on 5-10 fat. Fat assed. Then my wife and I wised up. The 140/98 blood pressure and medicine to control it, the 270 level cholesterol, the constant aches and pains convinced us both. I lost 125 pounds, my wife lost 65. I weight 155 now, she weights 105 on her 5-1 frame. We both ride bikes 20 plus miles in doors each night on our trainers. In good weather, we ride on the road 25-35 per night, weekends 40-50. This ain't your 10 MPH riding either on flat ground. This is 18-plus MPH, and up 7, 8 9 percent grade hills in our area. This is sweat hard riding. Not your touring riding. I rode over 7,500 miles this year. I quit watching worthless TV, quit eating lousy foods. I now have a 118/78 BP and my cholesterol dropped to 150. So, yes, exercise works. PILLS DON'T. Get off said fat butt and workout. Do something beside sit on said fat butt! /end rant! ;^)

31 posted on 01/13/2005 12:42:24 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I hate communists, socialists and democrats. Enemies of my Country!)
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To: theDentist

I think one should grade their amount of body fat with the water displacement test ? I was told by the flight surgeon I should weigh around 175-185 at six feet tall. I weighed 210 yet ran six miles a day,swam for a hour and PT'd for about two hours also each day ..... As I was in the best shape of my life I asked for one of the bodyfat water dunk tests from University of New Mexico. It measured me at 10% .....

I was reprimanded and put into the fatboy program for observation and counseling. This rule of health measurement was , is and alweays be clearly BS. No I didn't lose the weight, but the body fat went down to my all time low of 8%....add to that, I was threatened with a general discharge etc until a congressman and a wing commander stepped into the fray and saved my unhealthy fat ass from seperation from the service.

If a basic mod o, mark one human being has a body fat percentage between 10 & 20% they are not obese IMHO. Regardless of age or sex etc I think the waterdunk test, a blood test to check yer HDL & LDL, Sugars etc and a stress test for yer ticker should be a gauge of ones general health. Regardless if they have a running account at baskin robbins and Micky D's or they graze on grass , roots and berries......


Just how I have experienced it......


32 posted on 01/13/2005 12:44:03 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: RetiredArmy; All

I was at 250 for awhile.. I was running out breath and my face was turning red just going up the stairs.. My wife and I went on the Jenny Craig Diet.. I lost 50 pounds... Right now I'm in maintance and I workout 3 - 4 times a week. I do eat normal food, however, I eat in small portions. I use to eat double, triple burgers with fries.. Not anymore.


33 posted on 01/13/2005 12:48:53 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: kemathen7

>>Its common sense.<<

No, its conventional "wisdom" which is almost always wrong.

You DO NOT have to eat less. In fact, most people need to eat more. They just need to change what they eat and prepare their food a little differently.

The more times you eat, the better your metabolism works. People that only eat once a day have slow metabolism and likely will have heath problems, including obesity. The healthiest people I know eat like a horse.

Eat 5-6 times a day, including meal replacements like protein shakes; lower your carb intake; exercise by LIFTING WEIGHTS and doing aerobic activity (IN THAT ORDER); get 7-8 hours of sleep each night. Yes, ladies, weight training is the key to keeping you slim and fit. You WILL NOT bulk up, unless you are adding bodybuilding enhancement drugs to your diet.

There isn't a consensus about cheating, except that everyone should do it with some regularity. Some say build in cheat meals (i.e., whatever you want, including super nachos) during the week. Others say take a day off and junk out the entire day. This is one of those areas where it is very likely person and lifestyle preference dependant. My problem is that I do both!


34 posted on 01/13/2005 12:49:13 PM PST by 1L
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To: Nachum
Americans need to consume fewer calories and exercise more to maintain a healthy weight, according to new dietary guidelines released Wednesday by the federal government.

This week's winner of the Emil Faber "Knowledge is Good" award.

35 posted on 01/13/2005 12:50:46 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Nachum

I wonder how many millions of tax dollars this common knowledge cost. I hate government studies from useless bureaucrats....


36 posted on 01/13/2005 12:53:01 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Nachum

In other news, after a year long federal study of stock markets, the report issued stated that the best strategy for investing in stocks is to buy low and sell high.


37 posted on 01/13/2005 12:54:49 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: 70times7
WHEN, OH WHEN WILL ALL OF THESE WACKY EATING AND EXERCISE FADS JUST GO AWAY?!?!

When the sheep stop grazing. I eat whatever I want, do some yard work, and I weigh EXACTLY what I did as a college kid 38 years ago.

Eggs, bacon, whole milk, steak, prime rib w/mashed pototoes & gravy, shrimp, lobster, crab, artichokes in drawn butter, salt, Snickers Bars and other assorted chocolates ...

38 posted on 01/13/2005 12:57:30 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: KevinDavis
Good for you KD!

We do not eat THREE meals a day any more either. We eat several small meals several times a day. Constantly keeping a little something on the stomach keeps you from being over-hungry and over eating. Breakfast is my largest meal. Then, I eat something again around 10, at noon, 3 and after my workout. After the workout is the smallest meal of the day. Usually just some fruit or something to recover. I DO NOT GO TO BED WITH A LOT OF FOOD ON MY STOMACH. You do not digest that food at all or very well when trying to sleep. Plus, if you go to bed that full, you have a hard time sleeping sound as your body tries to digest that food.

I eat a lot of yogurt, fruit, rice, pasta, bagels, lean turkey, chicken or fresh fish. We also have found FAT FREE ice creams or yogurt's. So, you can have your fun type junk foods also. Just eat a small portion, not a 40 OZ bowl full or half a gallon. Read labels. You can find almost anything in fat free. We found fat free butters, low fat almost everything there is out there you can name. I am not hungry BECAUSE I QUIT LETTING FOOD BE MY BOSS. I started making the decisions, not food or my stomach. Now, me and my stomach and size 30 inch waist do the thinking. Not my ex-44 inch waist!

In the end, you simply have to decide it is a life style change, doing it for yourself, not for someone else. I simply got sick of the way I looked and felt. Now, man, I have the best set of thighs and calves on my legs that I have ever had and those 7-10% grade hills I ride and the 7,500 miles I rode this year are the reason. When I see myself in the mirrow, I have to look behind me to see if someone else has stepped in front of me and I am actually seeing someone else. But, every time, it is the skinny, in shape me, not the fat assed, lazy butt, that used to take up the WHOLE mirrow when I walked by!! ;^) Keep it up! Your 85 birthday will thank you for it!

39 posted on 01/13/2005 12:58:31 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I hate communists, socialists and democrats. Enemies of my Country!)
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To: TheBigB

hhahhehehahha...."newborn retarded monkey"... hahahhaha.... link?


40 posted on 01/13/2005 12:58:41 PM PST by Hi Heels (Proud to be a Pajamarazzi-Leef lang de Katjes van Viking)
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To: Nachum

In other news, Fire Hot, Ice Cold.


41 posted on 01/13/2005 1:02:35 PM PST by waverna (I shall do neither. I have killed my captain...and my friend.)
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To: RetiredArmy; All

To be quite honest I don't miss eating the food I use to eat.. Since I'm 34, I don't want a heart attack when I'm 40.. I made a choice. If people had common sense there would be no need for a food pyramid at all.


42 posted on 01/13/2005 1:02:55 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: mc5cents
In other news, after a year long federal study of stock markets, the report issued stated that the best strategy for investing in stocks is to buy low and sell high.

I know. I remember hearing a story about a guy who made a fortune selling a book on how to make a fortune in investments. The book sold for $10. It was a two page book.

Page one said, "Buy Low."

Page two said, "Sell High."

43 posted on 01/13/2005 1:06:33 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: albie

Thanks, I didn't think it was enough. I'll try to be more insensitive next time.


44 posted on 01/13/2005 1:06:48 PM PST by TheBigB (Life is good. It'd be better if Jaime Pressly was here naked with a pizza. But it's still damn good)
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To: Hi Heels
www.democraticunderground.com

:o)

45 posted on 01/13/2005 1:09:03 PM PST by TheBigB (Life is good. It'd be better if Jaime Pressly was here naked with a pizza. But it's still damn good)
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To: Hi Heels
Eat 6 small meals a day, strenght train and do 20 minutes cardio three times a week.

www.bodyforlife.com
46 posted on 01/13/2005 1:13:58 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Why do Red States have Blue Senators?)
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To: RetiredArmy

"They have time to sit and watch Dukes of Hazard or Steinfeld reruns one hundred times"

Which is why my Treadmill and Bowflex have a TV in front of them. Lift during news. Walk during Jeopardy.


47 posted on 01/13/2005 1:14:05 PM PST by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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To: IamConservative
Walk to the Jeopardy theme? Hadn't thought of that!!! ;^)
48 posted on 01/13/2005 1:15:16 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I hate communists, socialists and democrats. Enemies of my Country!)
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To: Nachum
Here is some other useful advice:


49 posted on 01/13/2005 1:23:28 PM PST by kesg
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To: Cobra64
I eat whatever I want, do some yard work, and I weigh EXACTLY what I did as a college kid 38 years ago. Eggs, bacon, whole milk, steak, prime rib w/mashed pototoes & gravy, shrimp, lobster, crab, artichokes in drawn butter, salt, Snickers Bars and other assorted chocolates ...

Doc. Atkins! I thought you were dead!

Congrats: you are in the minority in this country, although I can't help but wonder about your body fat percentage and your BMI. Have a friend from H.S. who is as you are; eats what he wants, doesn't gain weight... for the rest of us mortals, the reduction in hormone production as we age and the slowing metabolism require some changes in habits if we do not want to join the ever widening pudge ranks.

50 posted on 01/13/2005 2:09:32 PM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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