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GLOBAL WARMING BOMBSHELL: Hockeystick Broken
MIT Technology Review ^ | 15 October 2004 | Richard Muller

Posted on 01/13/2005 4:20:13 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 01/13/2005 4:20:13 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

This is old news.


2 posted on 01/13/2005 4:23:24 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: neverdem

Oh. "Black Eye from Broken Hockey Stick".


3 posted on 01/13/2005 4:23:28 PM PST by bitt (Why didn't they shove Dan Rather out of the door in his underwear?)
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To: neverdem

John Daly, RIP, cracked the hockey stick theory as soon as it came out.


4 posted on 01/13/2005 4:28:36 PM PST by Always Right
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To: neverdem

I have to drive my SUV a full tear to feed 5 acres of rainforest.


5 posted on 01/13/2005 4:29:41 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: neverdem

I did not need math to tell me the global warming nonsense is, well, nonsense.


6 posted on 01/13/2005 4:30:56 PM PST by BJungNan (Did you call your congressmen to tell them to stop funding the ACLU? 202 224 3121)
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To: neverdem

I wonder how Noam Chomsky feels about MIT Technology review publishing this report?


7 posted on 01/13/2005 4:31:59 PM PST by Lx (If dolphins are so smart, why do they live in igloos?)
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To: neverdem

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8 posted on 01/13/2005 4:32:20 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: AndyTheBear
look at the date. it is old news for us, but an earthshattering sea change for the technical/liberal MSM to actually cover this. Buckhead and FR have changed the media world!

note that Nature rejected the paper and it went over to a "blog" on the internet, and now is getting more and more traction with those who can no longer stomach the monolithic leftist lie. that is the classical breakout, and very similar to the way the rathergate fiasco came about.

kyoto fans will be deeply saddened (but watch them claim it is necessary anyway!)

9 posted on 01/13/2005 4:33:28 PM PST by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: chilepepper
I had read the paper back when it had come out (I occasionally frequent junkscience.com and co2science.com). I hope your right about it getting traction. The global warming as science shake down has gone on long enough.
10 posted on 01/13/2005 4:38:29 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear; chilepepper; Yardstick; neverdem; BJungNan; Always Right
Check out this:

Meltdown : The Predictable Distortion of Global Warming by ..... and the Media ( author on Foxnews)

11 posted on 01/13/2005 4:43:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: neverdem
Not only does the program not do conventional PCA, but also it handles data normalization in a way that can only be described as mistaken.

Like CBS, they liked the answer, so they didn't question the results. That is of course putting the best possible spin on it. The worst it that they did it more or less deliberately to fulfill their agenda.

While this could be simple incompetence, it sounds to me like an awfully hard mistake to make accidentally.

12 posted on 01/13/2005 4:44:00 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: AndyTheBear; Yardstick

Check my link for the story. Someone else added "Hockeystick Broken". I searched the title with "match all words" and "match exact phrase" twice as well as an archive search.


13 posted on 01/13/2005 4:53:03 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: El Gato

When government funds science, science becomes a whore of government.


14 posted on 01/13/2005 4:53:05 PM PST by annalex
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To: neverdem

RE: Apparently, Mann and his colleagues never tested their program with the standard Monte Carlo approach [!!!]

That's a big boo boo. What sort of real scientist would fail to do this?

RE: Did medieval global warming take place?

Well, we know this much. Vinyards in the UK and a place in Bavaria called "Valley of the Limes." Sure it's only circumstantial evidence, but it is hard to explain away with the Medieval Warming.


15 posted on 01/13/2005 4:53:07 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: neverdem

I think you narrowed your search too much by setting it to match all words. I just copied your title into the search box and did a quick "by title" search, and it pulled up those three articles (plus yours).

But whatever the case, taint no big deal.


16 posted on 01/13/2005 5:01:13 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the link.


17 posted on 01/13/2005 5:01:35 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: El Gato

LOL!


18 posted on 01/13/2005 5:02:47 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: JudyB1938; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; Dianna; farmfriend; archy; ...

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


19 posted on 01/13/2005 5:04:10 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem; Ernest_at_the_Beach
And for fun, read Micheal Crichton's new book, State of Fear.
20 posted on 01/13/2005 5:09:40 PM PST by no more apples (my give-a-damn's busted)
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