Couple are jailed for killing child because he was not perfect (A whopping 5 year sentence)

Telegraph UK ^ | 1/14/2005 | Nick Britten

[afraidfortherepublic]

Angela Gay, 'female actuary' -- 5 years in prison

[afraidfortherepublic]

Christian Blewitt with his natural mother, Tracy Osik

[Saundra Duffy]

OMG! Come quickly, Lord Jesus.

[gidget7]

This is horrible. Yet another case of little life, little time spent in jail, small life, small sentence. It happens all the time here in the US too, and it's so wrong. Children are the only ones deserving of special protection under the law.

In Springfield MA a woman has been arrested for murder. She had a three year old boy in her care. Her own son, 12 year old, raped and murdred the boy, she was aware of the abuse by her son and did nothing.

A. This 12 year old is the direct product of the gay agenda forcing the teaching of this crap in school, on TV, and trying to make us accept it as normal. Where did he learn this stuff??

B. What do you wanna bet she gets 5 years or even less? Disgraceful!! I am frankly surprised she was even charged, in this state.

[ItCanHappenToYou]

"How can we know exactly why they did it?"

"Perfect child" is in quotes in the article...means something.

Your question is a really good one, and the answer involves the psychological state of people who are infertile but have not really accepted that fact. When people like that adopt, they go into it with unrecognized
expectations about what their adopted child will be. Most often, the "perfect" child is fantasized to be a child very like that which the adopting couple would have biologically.

Adopting couples need to grieve for and resolve the psychological aftermath of infertility BEFORE they adopt.
And it really is the responsibility of the professionals working with adopting couples to determine how far along in the process they are.

Unfortunately, when you have for-profit adoption , either of newborns or out of foster care, money becomes the motive, and good practice goes out the window. Who pays? Children. And in the long run, all of us pay. Society pays.

Adoption should not be about replacing one child ( the one you can not have) with another ( the adopted child.) No human being is replacable.

[ItCanHappenToYou]

More on CAPTA

http://www.geocities.com/fathersmanifesto/dhhsabus.htm

[afraidfortherepublic]

Most often, the "perfect" child is fantasized to be a child very like that which the adopting couple would have biologically.

I don't know you, so please don't take this personally. However, I think that statement is just a bunch of baloney! Nobody knows what their "perfect" natural child is going to be like. Certainly every natural mother and father have been driven to distraction by the antics of their natural children from time to time. The perfect child at 2 sometimes becomes the rowdy, sullen teen at 13, or 18.

It is the job of the parent to be a nurturing, caring adult, even if the child is being a little monster at the moment. It is the job of the parent to adapt and to work with the child -- not shove salt down his throat. Who would ever think of such a punishment, anyway? No, this woman was unsuited to be an adoptive mother from the get go. Who knows what fantasy she was trying to fulfill by adopting these children? I don't think any amount of "working through her psychological state" would have helped this case. She certainly wasn't planning to stay home and raise them, was she?

She should have been sentenced to 10 times what she got.

[ItCanHappenToYou]

"Nobody knows what their "perfect" natural child is going to be like."

You and I know that, but childless people focused on getting a child may not. Infertility involves grief, loss and - yes- fantasies of what might have been, what yet might be.

http://www.bensoc.asn.au/parc_resources/papers_loss.html
Section on grief of adoptive parents


http://www.comeunity.com/adoption/infertility/ivf.html


But let's run with your pov for a moment.
What does that quote mean, then?

I agree with you about the sentence, btw. ANY child killer, whether adoptive, biological, or unrelated should get an automatic life sentence at the least.

AFA taking it personally, no problem. :D

[thompsonsjkc]

To cross-link a couple posts in my ping list:

These are the kinds of stories that homosexual rights activists love to throw in our face. They say we won't let a loving homosexual couple adopt children, but we'll put them into homes like this.

I don't buy that line because it's bogus. A kid could just as easily wind up in the home of perverted child molesters. You can ask if putting a child in a homosexual household is better than in a home with the "parents" in this story. You should also ask if putting the kid in the home a loving mother and father would be better yet. The first may be better for the child, but the second is certainly more in the best interest of the child.

[Ed Current]

Nat Hentoff

A professor of infanticide at Princeton

http://www.jewishworldreview.com -- LAST YEAR, while I was teaching at Princeton University on the politics of journalism, a lot of class time was devoted to a debate on the appointment of Princeton's very first full-time tenured professor of bioethics, Peter Singer.

An Australian, Singer was a principal founder of the animal-liberation movement and is a former president of the International Association of Bioethics. What led to our discussion in class -- and to various protests outside the university against his appointment, which starts this month -- is that he is also an advocate of infanticide. Not of any infant, but of severely disabled infants.

In class, nearly all of us agreed that in a university, a credentialed scholar should not be banned, no matter how controversial his views.

But some of us wondered why Princeton chose this renowned apostle of infanticide and certain forms of euthanasia for so influential an endowed seat at, of all places, the university's Center for Human Values.

Professor Singer often claims that his views have been misquoted, so I am quoting directly from his books.

From "Practical Ethics": "Human babies are not born self-aware, or capable of grasping that they exist over time. They are not persons." But animals are self-aware, and therefore, "the life of a newborn is of less value than the life of a pig, a dog, or a chimpanzee."

 

 

[Palladin]

How awful! These two sound like Joel Steinberg and his live-in girlfriend, Hedda. Vile animals.

And out in five years, to adopt again, no doubt.

[TexasCowboy]

"OMG! Come quickly, Lord Jesus."

It's going to get much worse before it gets better, but He's coming, hon.

[fightu4it]

These people related to Teddy Kennedy?

[FITZ]

Poor little baby. Child abusers need the death penalty --- nothing less.

[Veto!]

Many thanks for the links. I was online last night looking up Capta and found the first site you recommended, but alas, the links there do not work. Huzzah! The second site you list has more links and they all work.

I'm currently editing a book on the topic of parent abuse by the system, the problems of divorced fathers, and the dreadful feminist family law mafia that makes the lives of decent men unbearable. It's an interesting project.

Ironically, I was a single mother for many years. I shudder to think that had CAPTA been in place back then, our basically amicable divorce would have ended up a huge mess, the kids might have been snatched by CPS for no good reason. It's just dreadful for people today to have to suffer the tyranny of CPS, refrain from disciplining children for fear of abuse charges, and look over their shoulder every second for the Pterodactyl of government intervention to pounce.

Did you happen to see the PBS two-part special, The Taking of Logan Marr? The first part was devoted to the case of a young mother whose absolutely gorgeous, happy little three-year-old girl was snatched away by CPS because they suspected that her grandmother's boyfriend, who didn't even live with them, was a child molester. Proved to be incorrect, nevertheless, Logan was eventually put up for adoption, despite her young mother's best efforts at following the circuitous path CPS demanded--even though the mother had never once abused Logan, nor had she been accused of doing so. Taped three-way visits between Logan, her mother, and an ever-present social worker clearly showed the child deteriorating, becoming depressed, trying to tell her mother what was wrong, and being prevented from doing so by the social worker. Enough to wring every drop of blood out of your heart, it was so sad. A prominent state social worker adopted Logan and murdered her. At least that murderer got 20+ years in the slammer. The second part of the series went inside the CPS, revealing idiot untrained social workers making life-and-death decisions, almost always ones that damaged the children they were supposed to protect. What a nest of vipers their office was, and of course every staffer was an easily identifiable liberal. If they were not downright mean, they were at the very least tragically naive and stupid.

Which brings us back to this horrific UK case. What an angel that little boy was. How in the name of God do social workers and adoption agencies look at themselves in the mirror every morning?

[Libertina]

Mrs Gay's parents, Margaret and Royston Swain, both 61, said they were "completely devastated" by the verdicts. Mr Swain said: "Angela has worked hard all her life and was one of the few actuaries in the UK. She would have been the perfect mother.''

No comment is necessary... :(

[Vor Lady]

I didn't know about the shooting in the back. Thanks for straightening me out.

[nmh]

Why didn't they just take hin back to the agency and state it wasn't working out or something. Why MURDER him? Someone else would love to adopt him.

[ican'tbelieveit]

This child happened to escape the birth canal and take a breath. That and the MD peforming the procedure.

If the child had been shown to have brown eyes instead of blue, and the parents aborted, it would have been acceptable.

[ItCanHappenToYou]

"How in the name of God do social workers and adoption agencies look at themselves in the mirror every morning?"

MONEY. POWER. MONEY. Why in the name of God have we allowed children to become commodities? Why do we continue to allow the for profit business of infant adoption, and the unbridled actions of CPS across the nation go, without calling these people to account?

Logan is one among other children that have died in the care of their adoptive parents, btw. There are others - Candace,

http://www.rickross.com/reference/rebirthing/rebirthing9.html
and
Alex,
http://www.canadiancrc.com/articles/AP_Boy_Adopted_Last_Month_Death_22DEC03.htm

for two.

You know about these folks already I bet:

http://www.fightcps.com/oldsite/general.htm



Do you know about these women who work to draw attention to the abuses in infant adoption ( including not notifying men of their impending fatherhood, moving women out of state to avoid putative father registries, and the like?)

http://www.originsusa.org

http://www.exiledmothers.com

http://www.suziekidnap.com/fog

http://www.cubirthparents.org/infant.pdf