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Honest, Abe? (cont.) [The author answers Andrew Sullivan]
The Weekly Standard ^ | January 24, 2005 | Philip Nobile

Posted on 01/14/2005 7:58:08 PM PST by RWR8189

MY REVIEW of C.A. Tripp's The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln for THE WEEKLY STANDARD has caught the attention of several bloggers--but Andrew Sullivan seems to have been the most irritated. Indeed, his website contains half a dozen angry references to my essay--and that's not counting the drive-by blast he fired off in a column for the New Republic.

Perhaps Sullivan deserves some answer, for he insists THE WEEKLY STANDARD must apologize for my calling Tripp's book a hoax and a fraud--although one would have more confidence in Sullivan's complaints if he gave a stronger sense of having actually read my essay, rather than having merely glanced at THE WEEKLY STANDARD's cover and assumed that anything his most-hated magazine says on a topic touching upon homosexuality must be some gay-hating diatribe.

Sullivan says, for instance, in the classic rhetoric of the "gotcha," that I didn't reveal the conflict of interest involved in reviewing Tripp's book when I myself had previously worked on a competing manuscript about the topic. Since about a third of my 5,500-word essay was on exactly this topic of my previous work--and on Tripp's theft of that work--it's hard to understand what he is talking about. Sullivan doesn't seem quite to grasp that the essay is in part an entry in the series of pieces THE WEEKLY STANDARD has run about plagiarism.

When I tried to warn Larry Kramer that Tripp's book was bad enough to bury the question of Lincoln's sexuality for a generation, he threatened me with endless vituperation. And here comes Andrew Sullivan to carry out Kramer's threat. Does he actually know my position on the Gay Lincoln Theory? Has he actually read my previous work on topics that touch upon homosexuality?

If Sullivan understood his own activism better, he might have spun all this in the opposite direction to say something like: "Though Tripp's book is a dreadful botch, even THE WEEKLY STANDARD used it as an occasion to open its pages to an essayist who suggests the president's weird inner life is insufficiently explained by the theory of an utterly heterosexual Lincoln." But, no, a predisposition to attack the magazine compels him to call the egregious Tripp "a rigorous scholar" and me "a crank."

Sullivan's postings make much of a 2001 posting in which, Sullivan insists, I was "full of spleen against . . . the 'homophobia' of established Lincoln scholars in denying the same-sex loves in Lincoln's life." In fact, I did not criticize Lincoln biographers for "denying" anything, but rather I noted their reluctance to engage "the intellectually tempting homosexual angle" in their studies. That strikes me as a big difference. In a gentle reference to the bare cupboard of gay theory in Lincolniana, I wrote, "Perhaps the best word to describe their reaction is homophobic, that is, fear of a lavender Lincoln."

Second, Sullivan accuses me and THE STANDARD of conflict of interest in the failure to disclose that I had my own Lincoln book in progress in 2001 and supposes that my review was payback for Tripp's beating me to the punch. In fact, as Tripp's former co-author and copying victim, I had inside information on his hoax and fraud. So I did what any normal writer in my position would do, I privately complained to his publisher. And when the publisher knowingly collaborated in Tripp's fabrications and tried unsuccessfully to cover up his plagiarism, I went to the press.

Third, Sullivan sees a contradiction between my old zing at the eyes-wide-shut biographers of Lincoln's heterosexuality and my WEEKLY STANDARD slap at Tripp's cavalier attitude toward the same cadre. Sullivan writes: "So he trashes Tripp for the exact same thing he argued only a few years ago." Of course, I was rebuking biographers in general for not examining Lincoln's gay indicators. But Tripp laughed off specific biographers, David Donald and Michael Burlingame, who read his manuscript and found his arguments foolhardy, just as I did. That's not the same thing.

Fourth, Sullivan quotes my observation in THE WEEKLY STANDARD--"One of the biggest roadblocks to the Gay Lincoln Theory is the fact that neither friends nor enemies ever connected the man to homosexual thoughts, words, or deeds"--and then writes: "Yet in his previous essay, Nobile makes exactly the opposite point. In a letter to [Lincoln scholar Gabor] Borritt, Nobile specifically disowns the idea that the views of Lincoln's contemporaries or even Lincoln himself are salient."

Once again, Sullivan twists context in an anything-goes attempt to knife me. In brushing off the gay theory in his introduction to The Lincoln Enigma, Boritt stated: "Lincoln strongly bonded with men but what may suggest homosexuality in our time most likely did not so much as occur to most people in his time." On this point, I replied : "Of course, it is impossible to know what 'most people' in Lincoln's day might have thought about this matter [i.e., male bonding]. In any case, popular perception is irrelevant to historical truth, whatever it turns out to be." Clearly, my response to Boritt concerned 19th century notions of sex between men, not whether Lincoln's friends or foes noticed his hanky-panky.

Fifth, Sullivan writes: "In THE STANDARD, Nobile argues that Lincoln's early doggerel poem about boy-boy marriage suggests nothing. . . . In an email to Oxford University Press, however, Nobile made a strong case for his own book, . . . [adding] to bolster his case: "'Incidentally, did you know that Lincoln wrote a boy-sex poem when he was 20?'" Sullivan exaggerates again. I did not say in THE WEEKLY STANDARD that Lincoln's boy-marries-boy poem meant nothing. I merely ridiculed Tripp's original one-to-one correlation between the poem and Lincoln's alleged homosexuality--an argument so bad that even Tripp eventually dropped it.

Finally, Sullivan writes: "Are we really to believe that the vituperation in Nobile's piece is compatible with a simple difference of opinion over a nuance? Given the evidence in front of us, I'd say that the real bad faith in this instance is Nobile's, not Tripp's. THE STANDARD piece is a work of character assassination against a rigorous scholar who cannot defend himself, in the service of a political agenda that is indeed homophobic. Maybe THE STANDARD's editors were unaware of Nobile's rival book and past attacks on the 'het-line' of homophobic Lincoln scholarship. Well, they are aware now. They need to apologize for this lacuna and correct the record."

My hard case against Tripp's flim-flam is based on facts documented in my article, none of which Sullivan bothers to mention or refute. Burlingame's afterword to the book backs up my view of Tripp's less than rigorous scholarship. Further, Free Press made significant changes in Tripp's text after I vetted the galleys, another significant item ignored by Sullivan. The evidence of plagiarism, which forced Free Press to delay publication and rewrite the first chapter, is also missing from his attack on my integrity.

As for apologizing and correcting the record, let Sullivan read my essay and then consult his own finely tuned conscience.

 

Philip Nobile teaches history at the Cobble Hill School of American Studies in New York. He is the author of Intellectual Skywriting: Literary Politics & the New York Review of Books and editor of Judgment at the Smithsonian.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abrahamlincoln; andrewsullivan; angrygays; biggayabe; fancyabe; fancyboy; gaygop; gaylincoln; gayrepublicans; honestabe; lincoln; logcabin; logcabingop; plagiarism; sullivan; tripp; weeklystandard

1 posted on 01/14/2005 7:58:11 PM PST by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

These days, it seems like everybody (no matter how unlikely) is a Bible quoting Christian and everyone who is dead (and can't defend themselves) was gay. Strange times, indeed.


2 posted on 01/14/2005 8:07:48 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (There's nothing wrong with this country that 1,000,000 executions won't straighten out.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

3 posted on 01/14/2005 8:14:46 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane
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To: ScottFromSpokane

Maybe he ain't...but he sure looks a little too happy.


4 posted on 01/14/2005 8:18:22 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (There's nothing wrong with this country that 1,000,000 executions won't straighten out.)
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To: RWR8189

Sullivan needs Valium.


5 posted on 01/14/2005 8:21:00 PM PST by RegT
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Nah, if he were gay, I think the rest of these guys would have taken him out for a little "re-education," if you know what I mean.


6 posted on 01/14/2005 8:21:06 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane
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To: RegT

"Sullivan needs Valium. "

He also needs to move on to something else instead of this particular subject all of the time. I used to like to read his blog, but (yawn) not anymore.


7 posted on 01/14/2005 8:26:35 PM PST by Theresawithanh (2005! My resolution: FReep even MORE this year!!!)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

I bet they gave him a what's what on his taste in chaps though.


8 posted on 01/14/2005 8:26:44 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (There's nothing wrong with this country that 1,000,000 executions won't straighten out.)
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To: RWR8189
Oh boy. All this cat fighting gives me a headache.

I'll take my Lincoln straight; no chaser.

9 posted on 01/14/2005 8:31:21 PM PST by zarf
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To: RWR8189

Honest Abe honestly wasn't that honest ...... meerly a self promoting and un-yielding leader of the massive murdering horde that invaded the south during the 'civil' war


10 posted on 01/14/2005 9:20:53 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Alabama - in 2006 vote ROY MOORE governor! - don't let us down!)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

I am nearly certain everyone in that horrible vintage photo "repro" is a woman.


11 posted on 01/14/2005 9:26:49 PM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Ugh, I just can't get that photo out of my head. There are SO MANY THINGS wrong with it. I see the white lettering at the bottom and it makes me think that this photo was passed off as genuine.

First of all, a person brings their gun to a photo shoot because it is a prized possession, not because they want to threaten the camera man with it. A genuine photo would have the firearm visiable from the side.

Anyone with any self respect would never allow themselves to be photographed sitting in the dirt. Corpses gunned down by posses are even photographed on their feet.

A 19th century photographer has a very crude notion of "background". The shot should have been tighter around the people being photographed.

The people should have been posed "tighter" per 19th century shots. If you look at 18XX shots, people are nearly always crammed together to pose.

Man, that photo bugs me. :)

APf
12 posted on 01/14/2005 9:36:59 PM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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To: APFel
I wasn't going to bother to respond to you, but since you insist: The photo belonged to my step-grandfather.

The man at the back right is his father Milo, born 1865, died 1937. At the front left is Milo's brother William, born 1865, died 1927.

Here's another photo of them with a man whom I assume is another brother.

I have no doubt you're going to go on and on and on about how both photos are fake. Have at it, kid.

13 posted on 01/14/2005 9:44:19 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane
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To: ScottFromSpokane
I'm sorry, Milo was born in 1867. William was born in 1865.
14 posted on 01/14/2005 9:49:17 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane
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To: ScottFromSpokane
I have no doubt you're going to go on and on and on about how both photos are fake. Have at it, kid. Pfft.

APf

15 posted on 01/14/2005 9:51:01 PM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

It's a novelty photo.

I'm sorry, those are not their guns and they are not accustomed to the outdoors. It is clear that some of them have never handled a weapon in their lives.

But whatever. My interest in this topic ended five minutes ago.

APf


16 posted on 01/14/2005 9:55:27 PM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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To: APFel

Well, all I can say is I have the word of Milo Brink's son that these are genuine photos of his father.

You have some supposed (and utterly unsupported) expertise in how people would have behaved in the 19th Century.

I think I win.


17 posted on 01/14/2005 10:04:13 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Oh, and by the way:

I'm pretty sure this is the same William Brink. Sounds to me like he was pretty well accustomed to the outdoors.

18 posted on 01/14/2005 10:10:57 PM PST by ScottFromSpokane
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To: ScottFromSpokane

LOL!


19 posted on 01/15/2005 6:37:20 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (There's nothing wrong with this country that 1,000,000 executions won't straighten out.)
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To: RWR8189

It is truly a shame when gays cannot look at any issue what so ever, without seeing everyone and everything as somehow reflecting "gay" identity.


20 posted on 01/15/2005 8:31:05 AM PST by zerosix
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