Posted on 01/14/2005 10:25:49 PM PST by kattracks
LONDON — Prince Charles thinks that his son, Prince Harry, is being unfairly attacked for wearing a Nazi uniform to a costume party, an act he regards as an ill-considered schoolboy stunt.
Prince Charles told his advisers that he will not stand for his son being "hung out to dry," according to a report in the London Evening Standard yesterday.
One official said: "As far as the prince is concerned, Harry has apologized for his mistake. He has said 'sorry' and that is the end of the matter."It was further decided, the official said, that there will be no gesture such as a public trip by Prince Harry to the former Nazi concentration camp at Auschwitz in Poland.
Prince Harry, third in line to the British throne, also yesterday rejected demands he make further apologies for having dressed as a Nazi, after photographs of him sparked an international outcry.
However, the prince is considering offers by groups to learn more about the horrors of World War II and the Holocaust, a royal family spokesman said yesterday.
Michael Howard, leader of Britain's main opposition Conservative Party and a Jew, was among several prominent people at home and abroad to demand that Prince Harry go beyond his written statement and appear in person to apologize for the costume.
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This whole thing was blown up out of proportion, imo.
Wearing a Nazi badge is a "mistake"? This is more than a mistake. This is encouragement of radical ideology. Not even a sick minded freak would wear a Nazi badge as some kind of a joke costume, much less a so-called 'Prince'.
The British Monarchy is an absolute Joke and a product of commerical entertainment.
Seems to me, Ax murderer works okay. Nazi uniform just don't cut it.
My elderly British neighbor, a WWII survivor whose husband spent six years fighting the Germans on the continent, was appalled. The British are not what they were.
A friend of mine who served in Iraq dressed up as UBL for a costume party a couple months ago, does that mean he supports UBL beliefs? Does that mean he looks up to Bin Laden? Should people be offended that someone dressed up as a symbol of evil at a costume party?
I really don't think so.
Just because it isn't politically correct does not mean a person has to apologize for it. When did the liberals and media draft up this need to apologize for those things that they consider wrong? Does the media ever apologize for their mistakes? Oh yeah, the Dan Rather fiasco. If you can consider that an apology. I want to see them on the air, in person and also standing in front of the White House apologizing. Otherwise, according to their standards, it is not a bonafide apology.
It was a vile act, and the bell can't be unrung. That said, a great benefit results: further exposure of the nastiness of the "royal" gaggle. Time to end the recognition of them, and get their hands out of decent British people's pockets...
Go check out the costume shops near your local state university...I'll willing to bet you a bag of dunkin donuts that they carry the same uniform, and rent it at least five times a year. I'm not saying its right...but folks want something weird for costume parties...and someone is always willing to get rich off stupid things.
Harry is just a regular kind of 18-year old, and compares to the same kids in Mississippi state...drinks, parties, does stupid things...except they don't have their picture on front page of some British rag...they just wake up in the front yard...straighten their clothing...and walk back home after the party.
Lighten up.
The point is that Harry is a jerk-off little idiot and he's in direct line for the throne. The Monarchy is not experiencing the best of times. This long-running act could get cancelled when EII bites it.
If it does get cancelled it won't be because of this.
Charles is a clod. Whatever happened to the proverbial British stiff upper lip? If Harry took his licks and did so without whining by him or by his family on his behalf, then in a few days, the press would move on to something else -- provided that his father were not so stupid as to stir the controversy by adding something new.
Wearing a Nazi costume is in bad taste. No sympathy here.
The fact that he's in line for the throne means what to you or to me or to anyone else in the world?
Nada....
This certainly contributes though. If someone with grace, and wit, and charisma were poised to take the throne, only the perennial malcontents would be crying for an end to the monarchy. The prospect of someone stupid and vulgar on the throne just doesn't have much sex appeal.
The facts are :1)there really are a massive amount of "STUPID" genes in the Winsor family,as well as in Diana's 2)Harry's maternal great grandparents were staunch anti-Nazis and were in residence,along with his grandmother,when the Nazis bombed Buckingham Palace 3)his great grand Uncle (the Duke of Winsor)was not only a pro-Nazi,but liked Hitler.Hitler was going to place him back on England's throne,had Hitler won,as his regent/figure head 4)Harry's paternal great grandmother risked life and limb hiding Greek Jews from the Nazis,during WW II 5)that "apology" was too little and without any comprehension of what he had done.
It is hardly "hypercritical" to take offense at Harry's peculiar choice of a costume,which BTW,had NOTHING at all to do with the requested costume theme of the birthday party he wore it to.Many people,his grandmother included,are still very much alive,who suffered at the hands of the Nazis.
Would you have said the same,had Dick Cheney worn a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party? Think about it....please.
He is a representative of the British character in the world. It certainly makes a difference, particularly to the British.
What if one of the Bush daughters appears in Nazi drag with a drink in one hand and a cigarette in the other, perhaps at one of the inauguration parties? Just going to ho-hum it?
Please send me that bag of Dunkin' Donuts...4 crullers,4 jelly,4 apple fritters. That costume Harry wore was of THE AFRIKA CORPS,with Rommel's badges. You're NOT going to find THAT in some run of the mill costume shop in America!
He could have been criticized without it becoming screaming headline news.
Dick Cheney is not a dumb kid, Harry is.
"Just because it isn't politically correct does not mean a person has to apologize for it. When did the liberals and media draft up this need to apologize for those things that they consider wrong?"
You're right, in that a private citizen shouldn't need to apologize for unpopular opinions or behaviors.
But the British monarchy represents the people of Britain, and lives off the taxpayer dime.
It's the same as with the Clintons. Lots of married men cheat on their wives. It's not my place to criticize my neighbor for doing so. But it's inappropriate when it's being done in the Oval Office, and I'm not going to put up with that.
And Harry has always been not so bright and wild;not just after his parents split,nor because his mother died in an accident.
Harry,as I said earlier,has ALWAYS been willful and wild.It didn't begin with his mother's death,nor with his parents' split. And Diana was either absent or smothering. Not exactly an "ideal" mother.
Like it or not,dysfunctional or not (and many Royal families have been what is now called "dysfunctional",since there was royalty anywhere!),Harry isn't just any old 20 year old boy ,whose mother died young.
A monarchy rests on the foundation that certain individuals are entitled to rule because of the circumstances of their birth. The Third Reich was based on the fundamental bedrock that Aryans were superior and entitled to rule the world. Not hard to see why poor Harry is so confused.
I agree that Harry is just a kid. I also thought I heard on some show today that his brother was with him and gave encouragement to him. Anybody else hear this or did I dream it?
Harry isn't confused as much as he is willful and stupid.
I have a question. Can they skip Charles and give the crown to William?
Apparently not, even if he is a dumb kid.
IIRC there have been bigger scandals, among the royals, which hasn't done much to stop the procession.
I could understand people being upset if he done something so extreme as to put a stain on Britain, but this was not meant as any kind of statement by Harry, It was a costume worn to a party.
Admonish him yes, but this went far beyond where it should have, imo.
allow me to roll my eyes at this entire thread...I must do that just to move on.
I agree with you whole-heatedly. "This Royal' Feeds at the publics trough. He should be more aware of his responsibility. To me this is yet another disgusting scene of the arrogance of the Rich and Famous. It is Just that in 1 word - "ARROGANCE". Apparently he thinks he can get away with this or he wouldn't have done it. He is seen witha cig and drink in hand in the photo. At 20 years old he is NOT an example of the youth of the future. He is a feeder rather than using his abilities/profile for good, he instead proclaims his committment to himself. While his Mother was controversial, no-one can say she didnt try very hard to Help the people of the world. You can celarly see her children have suffered without her influence and guidance, I am sure she is "turning" in her grave at this very moment...
I agree with you to a point. And that point is, how much apology is required to make the press shut up?
Well gee, thanks for your imput.
If he war an outfit to look like Stalin not a damn thing would be said.
Sorry make that wore.......
I agree. Devil costumes are pretty popular. So are witches. I don't assume that people wearing those costumes approve of evil or witchcraft.
Has anyone noticed that Soviet & Bolshevik uniforms & insignia have, for many decades, been regarded as chic?
During the 1980s, there was a trendy restaurant in L.A. called Gorky's, full of Bolshevik posters. It was their theme. Michael Jackson has worn Soviet style uniforms on stage. Wayne's World 2 featured a nightclub called Comrades, with a giant Lenin head.
I don't see why Nazi insignia should be treated any differently than Soviet/Bolshevik insignia. Either both are insensitive, or neither is. Either is fine with me; I just don't like the double standard.
Is someone a little "cranky pants" tonight? I think Charles is no role model (Camilla)and hoped Mama wouldn't pass on til she could hand it over to "anybody but Charles"
Throughout history,many children have lost one or both of their parents by the age of 13 and turned out okay.I'm NOT saying that it's a good thing,but they heal;more or less.
My father's sister was 13 when their mother died.It didn't make her an emotional cripple for life.
Item 2 correction: they were his Paternal great grandparents.
Personally,I think BOTH are wrong!
also, it wasn't the Victorian age, that is the time during Queen Victoria's reign.
This whole thing is stupid. Prince Harry is stupid, the whole furor over this thing is stupid, having a monarchy in the 21st century is stupid.
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