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NFL Divisonal Playoffs - Saturday, 15 January 2005 (Jets, Steelers, Rams, Falcons)

Posted on 01/15/2005 10:37:26 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

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To: Petronski
It is not unreasonable for Steelers management to doubt his ability to return to top form on a sustainable basis.

Not at all to a point (especially if they were up front with him) - However, they asked to him to battle back and come back as the team leader he was -

He then battled back all off season...to the point that the Steelers doctors cleared him....and then they cut him...

That is dirty pool....plain and simple.

61 posted on 01/15/2005 12:26:25 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

I don't think it's as simple as that, but I don't have any evidence to the contrary.


62 posted on 01/15/2005 12:31:32 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: thoughtomator
Rooting for a Jets-Vikings Superbowl!

More like "Mediocre Bowl." Wake me up for the commercials.

;O)

63 posted on 01/15/2005 12:34:32 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: DevSix
He was perhaps the best most intimidating LB to play the game outside of LT

I saw LT play twice. He seemed to get from one point on the field to another before you could exactly see how he did it. ( This from an Eagles fan. )

64 posted on 01/15/2005 12:35:45 PM PST by Stentor
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To: dubyaismypresident
But do the Steelers and Falcons cover the points? 9 and 7 respectively.

At this stage of the season, it's all about the win (and yes, the Steelers cover, but the Falcons don't). For some bonus bucks, take the under in the Steelers whomping of the J-E-T-S and the over on the Rams-Falcons shootout.

65 posted on 01/15/2005 12:44:31 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: newgeezer

Two 6 seeds making it? Come on, it'd be historical!


66 posted on 01/15/2005 12:54:05 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: Petronski
I don't think it's as simple as that, but I don't have any evidence to the contrary.

I understand what you are saying - and I have also seen / heard Cowher comment on how letting Lloyd go was the hardest thing he has ever done as coach.

So I am not saying it was done out of complete disregard.....but I am saying it was dirty-pool when you cut through all the BS (and that is why Cowher looks back on it how he does).

As for Lloyd.....this tribute says it best...

It all comes back to that '95 preseason hit on Brett Favre...

I can think of only one other Steeler LB who played every single down of his career (preseason or otherwise) with the same unbridled intensity as Greg Lloyd... I suspect we ALL know to whom I'm referrring. Turf toe of all things finally brought down the mighty Jack Lambert, so there's certainly no shame in the probable demise of Lloyd's NFL career coming at the hands of a life-threatening staff infection. Still, it was hard to let go of Lambert... it will be difficult to say goodbye to Lloyd.

Five Pro Bowls. Two Steelers Team MVP awards. Not to mention the less formal, completely unofficial title of the ''Nastiest Man in Pro Football''. Intimidation. Domination. Power. Leadership. The heart and soul of the greatest defense of the last decade. An uncompromising love of the game. An unrelenting hatred of the enemy, and in particular, the quarterback. The never-ending barrage of "Mutha-F#&%er". Blood & sweat... but never tears. All of these things describe what Greg Lloyd has symbolized to me as a fan. And all of these attributes were perfectly summed up in one fleeting moment during a meaningless ball game... the '95 preseason hit in which Lloyd absolutely leveled Brett Favre, knocking him out of the game.

''The hit'' earned Greg Lloyd a healthy fine handed down by the powers that be in the league office. Nevermind that the hit was clean. Nevermind that the hit epitomized what NFL football is supposed to be about. Nevermind that the victim himself (Favre) said it was a great hit. Greg Lloyd's style of play was examined and labeled as ''to rough'' for the roughest game on the planet, so Paul Taglibue deemed it necessary to make an example of Lloyd. True to his legend, Lloyd didn't give a shit. It just made him even nastier. This, more than anything else, is why I'll miss him.

Everytime a favorite player leaves the team, I think we fans all die a little inside. My childhood faded into adolescence as the Steelers dynasty of the 70's faded into the ''Dark Years'' of the 80's. As I entered high school, I became involved with other things... homework, music, babes... the usual teen stuff. But the arrival of Bill Cowher nearly a decade later rekindled the passion for football that consumed me as a child. Guys like Lloyd, Woodson, & Lake filled the void created when Bradshaw, Swann, & Greene retired in my youth. But Woodson has moved on. Greg Lloyd is now gone. And Lake is an unrestricted free agent after next season. It's Deja-vu all over again...

I never expected watching these guys move on would still hurt as an adult. I was wrong.

We'll all miss Lloyd immensely.

67 posted on 01/15/2005 12:59:04 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I heard that Kerry said if the Steelers won today he would run for president in 2008...


68 posted on 01/15/2005 12:59:17 PM PST by Hotdog
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To: Chi-townChief

All the Steelers' opponents need to do is look at the first Ravens game. We kicked their butts!


69 posted on 01/15/2005 1:00:45 PM PST by lapster
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To: Hotdog

Hell, you just made a Jets fan of me....


70 posted on 01/15/2005 1:01:20 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: DevSix

That tribute is by a long-time Steeler fan who has a great website - I agree with every word....(but don't want give the impression that I wrote it).


71 posted on 01/15/2005 1:04:32 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: CounterCounterCulture

As a lowly Cowboy fan, I just had to come into this thread as a troll and ask, "Who the hell cares?"

Just kidding. Don't ZOT me.


72 posted on 01/15/2005 1:06:41 PM PST by HorsePlayer (Licking his wounds.)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Steelers and Falcons should be playing next week for a trip to Jacksonville.


73 posted on 01/15/2005 1:07:25 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: CounterCounterCulture

"* Helmets courtesy of hole_n_one"

Helmets courtesy of hole_n_one_off: St. Louis' colors are blue and gold ;)


74 posted on 01/15/2005 1:07:51 PM PST by Ahithophel (Padron@Anniversario)
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To: Gewittermädchen
JETS - SUCK SUCK SUCK I'd like to see the Bus shave Randy Moss's head
Mosshead doesn't play for the Jets.
75 posted on 01/15/2005 1:08:17 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Checking in from Northern Jersey. GO JETS!!!!!!!!!


76 posted on 01/15/2005 1:08:34 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: dc-zoo

They'll keep it close and then Pittsburgh will probably pull away in the fourth quarter.


77 posted on 01/15/2005 1:08:39 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: andyandval

Sorry I missed out on the gloat fest last week. I trust you did enough gloating for the both of us?


78 posted on 01/15/2005 1:09:36 PM PST by jmc813 (J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS)
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To: dts32041

maybe you might consider switching to the green can


79 posted on 01/15/2005 1:09:39 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Jen

You'll see the Rams run the ball forty times tonight before that will happen!


80 posted on 01/15/2005 1:10:00 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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