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The Golden Globes LIVE THREAD 8:00 pm
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Posted on 01/16/2005 11:20:44 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs

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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

If you want to see her at 14 watch...Michael Mann's Heat. :-) The way threads come together.


581 posted on 01/16/2005 9:35:06 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

RE: "Mamet is critizing the dog-eat-dog aspects of the free market."


True, but I love it anyway. And who said that respecting the free market means that we can't criticize those who use it to abuse others? I guess I'm an anomaly amongst some people. Let me explain: Socialism is anathema to me; it is the enslavement of the working man to beurocrats in the central government and the abolishment of personal liberty as manifested by a person's choice to buy, sell, hire, and fire as they wish without censorship or punishment. I'm a strict believer in the capitalist system as the strongest, freest economic system yet devised by man, YET I often curse those who put their own greed ahead of the betterment of their employees (recent examples include Enron and that bastard Ken Lay, Martha Stewart, and the slick-willy-esque "legalspeak" of many insurance companies). Just because it's legal doesn't mean that it's anymore than a necessary evil sometimes (or the lesser of evils, as it were).

Besides, I do agree with the other basic message of Glengarry Glen Ross, that Life is indeed unfair, and that an essentially good man (like Shelly Levine) can become cast aside by society when he has outlived his purpose to those who put money above all else.


582 posted on 01/16/2005 9:40:21 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04
I agree that Kevin Spacey is a terrific actor, and alot of people aren't aware of this, he's quite a good comedian, and an excellent impressionist. When he was guest host on SNL, it was about the time of a major Star Wars anniversary. So they did bits of "screen tests" with Kevin playing all the actors trying out for the roles. I couldn't breath when he did Walter Mathau trying out for Obi Wan Kenobi... "What the hell's a Wookie?!?!"

My problem is that I always feel I'm watching Kevin Spacey playing a role.

Mark

583 posted on 01/16/2005 9:40:26 PM PST by MarkL (That which does not kill me, has made the last mistake it will ever make!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Portman is 23, and your daughter must be a serious looker
(Hey, YOU made the comparison, not me).


584 posted on 01/16/2005 9:42:02 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Vicki

Glad to see there are several on this thread who appreciate Glengarry Glen Ross. Most people I know don't have a clue that it even exists. Like you, I watch it anytime I find it on the late night channels. It's depressing, but oddly satisfying at the same time -- the performances and intensity are that good.


585 posted on 01/16/2005 9:43:56 PM PST by varina davis
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

It's funny that you should call Levine a good man. Jack Lemmon said he despised the character. He thought that Levine would have sold his daughter to get that sale he thought he had. One of the great things about the movie is that you can see how a salesman's tricks eventually lose their sparkle and become stale and ineffective as the salesman gets older...I think the inference is to be made that Al Pacino's Ricky Roma will be just like Levine later in life a once great salesman remembering the good years.


586 posted on 01/16/2005 9:44:14 PM PST by Borges
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To: varina davis

Get the DVD! It's a great 2 disc set and the movie looks and sounds great. It was a long wait for it too.


587 posted on 01/16/2005 9:44:56 PM PST by Borges
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

My niece. I don't have kids. And yeah, she is very cute. : )


588 posted on 01/16/2005 9:47:59 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Christine Fraudoire is not my governoire.)
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To: MarkL

I saw that SNL bit. It was a good one, and a great showcase for Spacey's Mattheau impersonation. Spacey can actually do a wealth of spot-on impersonations, and one of his best is Mattheau's old movie-buddy Jack Lemmon (RIP, both).

My favorite sketch, however, is still the tear-inducing, larger-than-life absurdist masterpiece that is the BOC Behind The Music sketch from 2000.

"I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more Cowbell!" -Christopher Walken


589 posted on 01/16/2005 9:49:11 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Borges

Well, maybe Shelley was a jerk like Roma in his past, and knowing a little more of his backstory helped Lemmon form his opinion of the character. Seeing only what is presented later in life though, Shelly didn't seem too bad a guy to me though (thoigh his work is inherantly sleazy). Maybe it was just the sympathy I felt for his kicked-around sad sack that made me like him, or maybe it was Lemmon's broken-man slump and world-weary delivery.

Either way, it was a great performance.


590 posted on 01/16/2005 9:54:13 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: Borges; All

Signing off again, this time for the night.

Goodnight, and have a pleasant MLK holiday
tomorrow.


591 posted on 01/16/2005 10:00:18 PM PST by RockAgainsttheLeft04 (Chaos is great. Chaos is what killed the dinosaurs, darling. -- from Heathers (1989))
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I defer your expertise in music history and bow to your expertise in professional vocals. Send me a tape. :O)
592 posted on 01/16/2005 10:00:41 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: varina davis

I love the independent film channels. Last night I watched "Sid and Nancy" again. I also like "Requiem for a Dream" even I feel sick in the pit of my stomach when I view it. However, I feel compelled to watch it. Kinda' like driving by a bad car wreck.


593 posted on 01/16/2005 10:01:13 PM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: Petronski

; ) (I hope I haven't ruined your impression of the great Ray Charles...I do agree with you that he was a master of his craft.)


594 posted on 01/16/2005 10:03:45 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Christine Fraudoire is not my governoire.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

You've ruined nothing. You've added to the back story.


595 posted on 01/16/2005 10:07:09 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04

Yeah, I loved both of those too...but Thief is still my fave.


596 posted on 01/16/2005 10:19:44 PM PST by Feiny (Gap-Toothed, Missing Link Troglodytes Delighted by Presidential Election Outcome)
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To: Vicki

I know exactly what you mean. The vintage Hitchcock films, too. And I CANNOT surf past My Big Fat Greek Wedding without watching it again.What an ensemble cast! Also Blade Runner and anything else with Rutger Hauer.


597 posted on 01/17/2005 5:43:12 AM PST by varina davis
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To: RockAgainsttheLeft04; Borges

To be honest, I've been disappointed with most of Lee's output since Malcolm X. Clockers was very good,but it didn't "feel" like a Spike Lee film, and 25th Hour was interesting mainly for Norton's riveting performance than for Lee's direction. I think the loss of his cinematographer Ernest Dickerson might have something to do with my ennui; his movies just don't have that same look any more.


598 posted on 01/17/2005 9:00:06 AM PST by RightWingAtheist (Marxism-the creationism of the left)
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To: RightWingAtheist

I thought 25th Hour was directed perfectly. The sense of melancholy. He certainly directed the actors well. And the cinematographer on 25th Hour..Rodrigo Prieto (or something) is regarded as one of the best around. He just did Oliver Stone's Alexander actually. Lee's 'Four Little Girls' is supposed to be real good. A documentary on the famous 1964 church bombing.


599 posted on 01/17/2005 9:07:25 AM PST by Borges
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Talk about snobbery...pot calling the kettle black. IT'S A MOVIE. A MADE UP STORY.


600 posted on 01/17/2005 9:10:04 AM PST by Hildy ( To work is to dance, to live is to worship, to breathe is to love.)
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