Skip to comments.Groups gather to fight Bush's faith initiatives
Posted on 01/16/2005 12:13:06 PM PST by No Longer Free State
Forty to 60 humanists, atheists, nontheists, secular Jews and ethical culturalists began an emergency summit yesterday at a Dupont Circle hotel to discuss strategy over how to fight President Bush's faith-based initiatives planned for his second term.
"The situation is now as bad as we'll ever see it," said Roy Speckhardt, deputy director of the American Humanist Association (AHA), a conglomeration of 80 grass-roots activist groups that promote humanism, a philosophy of living without supernatural influences.
Mr. Speckhardt said this year's so-called "inauguration summit" dwarfs a similar 1981 meeting at the University of Maryland after Ronald Reagan won the White House with the help of the Moral Majority.
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"There has never been any less respect in Washington for church-state separation, even though church-state separation is one of the things that made our country possible in the first place."
These people would have had appoplexy back when our founders were still alive. They had NO respect for the definition the 'secular humanist' wackos use for the government not establishing a religion.
How about doing things in the best manner possible...give no taxpayer money to ANY charity, secular OR religious. This way, the government doesn't hijack churches and other religious organizations by putting them on the dole, and the secular groups get no taxpayer help, either.
Once and for all, I wish someone, anyone, the Supreme Court, Bush, I don't care, would get on TV-PrimeTime and just tell the American people that there is NO sentence in the Constitution that states "there will be no religion in America".
This separation clause that they constantly refer to is bogus in the way they represent it!!! Why do the Republicans and Libertarians not make a HUGH deal about setting the record straight, once and for all?!!!!
This is a letter I sent to the Center for Inquiry about one of the meetings scheduled in Florida:
Reference: Letter from above addressee to attend Florida Conference
First I do not know how you got my name and address or how you or your organization would think that I would support anti-American organizations such as those you have put forth as speaking or leading seminars at a conference in Florida.
I reviewed some of the names and it looks as though you have a gathering of anti-American left-wing radicals whose only desire is the destruction of the individual freedom we in this great country possess.
In my lifetime I have witnesses two so-called secular governments come to power in the world, I also witnessed their destruction, that destruction both brought about by the family oriented citizens of the United States. One was in Germany and the other Russia.
One organization Americans United for Separation of Church and State is one, the other the ACLU, of the biggest left-wing fascist organizations that I have seen in my lifetime. There is nothing in the Constitution that says separation of Church and State. The Constitution says; Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF. There are no words such as separation. The left is preaching their own religions secularism, humanism, and environmentalism. And trying to force their Gods on all of us through radical judges and laws that establish their religion and are not constitutional. Their gods, in their minds, are their own superiority to the rest of humanity, when in fact they are nothing more that ants on the face of an earth that goes about its natural cycles without regard to the anthills that sprout here and yond. That cycle includes Ice ages, ages of warming and as we are in now an ice age that is in a warming cycle within the time of the glaciers.
But left-wing organizations will continue to try and force their so-called superior intellect upon the people who feed the poor, house the homeless, and save the victims of the earths natural cycles.
Worship of God and the sanctity of the family are what hold civilizations together, without either a civilization falls to left-wingers who think they are the saviors of the earth and the human race. Neither of which is accurate, as proven by Hitler and Stalin and countless other socialist who tried to put the people in boxes and replace their individual freedoms with group freedoms for their own elite greed.
Please do not send me anymore of your propaganda.
OK...somebody clue me here. WTH is a "secular Jew?" If a Jew is defined as one who believes in the tenets of Judaism, then isn't a "secular Jew," by definition, an oxymoron?
You never see "secular Christian," "secular Buddhist," "secular Muslim." Only "secular Jew," and I don't get it.
Wouldnt you like one day to get up and read, 60 Atheists at an anti-God rally struck dead by lightning?
I know, shouldnt wish anyone ill. But once I would like to see some of the Old Testament punishments dealt out.
"You never see "secular Christian," "secular Buddhist," "secular Muslim." Only "secular Jew," and I don't get it."
Why is a conservative just a "conservative", but a jewish conservative a "Neo-conservative"?
You bring up a good point, although one actually can be a jew even if they don't beleive in the tenets of judaism. According to judaism if you're born to a jewish mother, you're a jew, you might not be an observant jew, but you're still a jew
Some 20 groups will be represented, ranging from the Association of Humanistic Rabbis to the Freedom From Religion Foundation to the Internet Infidels.
There must be more grant money chasing lefty causes than even Heather McDonald can report on, cause I don't think too many of these wacko organizations are able to rely on membership dues...