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Texas County Cracks Down on Illegal Voting
ABC News ^ | Jan 16, 2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/16/2005 4:43:38 PM PST by mdittmar

Officials are investigating how at least 35 foreign citizens, and possibly dozens more, were allowed to vote in elections in Harris county.

One of those illegal voters was a 73-year-old Brazilian woman whose registration was canceled in 1996 after she acknowledged on a jury summons that she was not a U.S. citizen.

But the following year she was again given a new voter card, which wasn't discovered until recently. Records show that since 1997 the woman voted at least four times in general and Democratic primary elections, most recently in November.

Last year, at least 35 foreign citizens either applied for or received voter cards by checking a box on the application saying they were U.S. citizens, said Harris County Tax Assessor-Collector Paul Bettencourt, who also is the county's voter registrar.

"If they check yes and they're not a citizen, there is no database that is open to the public that I know of that you can check against," he said.

Bettencourt is investigating at least 70 other possible violators and will send a list of suspected offenders to the Harris County district attorney.

Bettencourt said he believes the majority of non-citizens registered to vote were signed up by third party groups conducting mass voter-registration drives and there was probably no intent to deceive his office.

The best way to ensure that foreign citizens are unable to continue registering and voting is to have Congress pass a federal law setting up some form of citizenship verification, he said

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The Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Washington-based group that advocates reduced immigration, wants a "national citizenship verification procedure" to ensure that voters in U.S. elections are citizens.

"Making false claims of U.S. citizenship is all but impossible to detect," said federation president Dan Stein.

Some states and municipalities have allowed foreign citizens living in the United States to vote. Texas, for example, didn't require voters to be U.S. citizens until 1921.

Several municipalities in Maryland allow foreign residents to vote in local elections. Similar proposals are under discussion in New York and San Francisco.

But Arizona voters in November passed Proposition 200, which requires, in part, that new voters provide proof of U.S. citizenship before being allowed to register to vote.

Information from: Houston Chronicle,


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; dirtyrats; election; electioneering; filthyrats; fraud; houston; immigration; rats; stealingelections; texas; votefraud
So many counties,so little outrage.
1 posted on 01/16/2005 4:43:40 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
Texas County Cracks Down on Illegal Voting
This would be an example of closing the barn door after the horses are out.
2 posted on 01/16/2005 4:49:39 PM PST by Clara Lou (Hillary Clinton: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: mdittmar
But the following year she was again given a new voter card, which wasn't discovered until recently. Records show that since 1997 the woman voted at least four times in general and Democratic primary elections, most recently in November.
3 posted on 01/16/2005 4:49:51 PM PST by umgud
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To: mdittmar
"Bettencourt said he believes the majority of non-citizens registered to vote were signed up by third party groups conducting mass voter-registration drives and there was probably no intent to deceive his office..

Oh goodness no, absolutely no intent to deceive. How dare you even suggest such a thing? Why this is just an honest mistake, happens to the Republicans all the time. Yeh, that's it. No big deal. Happens to both parties, especially Republicans.

4 posted on 01/16/2005 5:00:46 PM PST by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: Clara Lou
This guy would get my vote in 2008 if he ran.
5 posted on 01/16/2005 5:08:34 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free)
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To: mdittmar
"This guy would get my vote in 2008 if he ran."

Agreed - he's a great guy. He's also a fox in a hen-house. He's on the inside and can now see, and try to fix, the schemes that the Dems have set up in the big cities (Houston, in this case).
6 posted on 01/16/2005 6:26:21 PM PST by BobL
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To: mdittmar
But the following year she was again given a new voter card, which wasn't discovered until recently. Records show that since 1997 the woman voted at least four times in general and Democratic primary elections, most recently in November.

They seem to know who she is, so why isn't she wearing an orange jumpsuit awaiting her trial, conviction, jail time, and deportation?

7 posted on 01/17/2005 5:45:34 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mdittmar
TEXAS isn't cracking down on illegal voting. One county official, truly a shining light among politicians, is trying to do something about it. I hope he is successful. He has been working on many things to benefit the citizens of Texas and is being opposed by too many of our elected officials.
8 posted on 01/17/2005 5:50:43 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: umgud

I think we want to be careful about this "national citizenship verification." It smells too much like a national ID. The fact that this lady was identified through the means we have now means that it will work, as is. What we need are laws to command diligence of election workers and punish fraud on the part of the "voters." In this case, both the fraudulent voter and the election workers who let her slide in should now be in prison.


9 posted on 01/17/2005 8:58:12 AM PST by henderson field
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To: mdittmar

"Bettencourt said he believes the majority of non-citizens registered to vote were signed up by third party groups conducting mass voter-registration drives and there was probably no intent to deceive his office."

Bettencourt is a fool if he doesn't think there is deception involved here. One day we'll turn around and find illegals are determining our elections. 8 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were registered to vote.


10 posted on 01/17/2005 4:00:04 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: mvpel

And she's 73 years old. Just doing the work we don't want to?? I doubt it, she's probably getting social security.


11 posted on 01/17/2005 4:01:32 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: Spok; dirtboy; Jay777; fastattacksailor; Jasper; Uncle Vlad; banjo joe; Darkwolf377; hushpad; ...
"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism...The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin...would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities."

Teddy Roosevelt, Republican President (Speech, New York, 1915)

12 posted on 01/17/2005 4:04:04 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: JustAnotherSavage
Bettencourt is a no fool, and has purged the Harris County voter rolls of tens of thousands of incorrect registrations since he was elected in 1998, after 30+ years of the same democrat in the office. He speaks softly and clobbers the dims every time they turn around.
13 posted on 01/17/2005 4:18:10 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

Good, glad you told me. The voting system is still being purposely decieved. I thought his comment made it sound like the bad registrations were an accident.


14 posted on 01/17/2005 4:31:17 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: JustAnotherSavage; Dog Gone
Thanks for listening. This guy is beating up on local dims over registration, and state officials, OF BOTH PARTIES, over taxes. He is one honest politician ..... even if he laughs like a girl!!! ;-)
15 posted on 01/17/2005 4:36:54 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; janetgreen

Speaking of that, I heard a guy on radio last night running for Mayor of LA who says if he wins the local law enforcement will crack down on illegals. He's a dynomo named Walter Moore (www.mayorforyou.com) Janetgreen, have you heard of him?


16 posted on 01/17/2005 4:41:41 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: mdittmar

Notice that Harris County (Houston) is handling the problem on our own instead of waiting on Washington.


17 posted on 01/17/2005 4:44:47 PM PST by bayourod (America, the greatest nation in history is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants are an asset.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Bettencourt is a no fool, and has purged the Harris County voter rolls of tens of thousands of incorrect registrations

That guy sent me a letter which in essence stated that I had to buy a stamp and reply
to his office confirming my address or I could not vote. Good for him!

I was mad at the time, but in retrospect it seems a fine idea.

18 posted on 01/17/2005 4:46:55 PM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

You noticed that, too. I'd hate to be seated next to him in a comedy club.


19 posted on 01/17/2005 4:47:30 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: JustAnotherSavage; bayourod

Lets see, isn't it about time for the illegal alien apologists and enablers to show up to argue that the flood of illegals really doesn't result in illegal voting or threaten the American voting system?

Perhaps Bayourod would appreciate this opportunity to lecture us again on how they do things in Houston...


20 posted on 01/17/2005 4:48:45 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: humblegunner

He only did that because Eaker turned you in!


21 posted on 01/17/2005 4:52:01 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state.)
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To: mdittmar
So what! My oldest kid hasn't resided in the state in six years.....Still gets summoned for jury duty and still gets a voter ballot.

The clerk/recorder in Santa Barbara County seems to be clueless.

22 posted on 01/17/2005 4:56:34 PM PST by pointsal
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To: Czar

Ah,it was so peaceful.......


23 posted on 01/17/2005 4:58:22 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: humblegunner
Hey, he violated your 24th amendment rights (poll tax). One can buy a stamp only from the US post office; therefore, any money spent on stamps is purely a tax on the mails, and by extension, on your right to vote.
24 posted on 01/17/2005 5:01:53 PM PST by dufekin (Four more years! Liberals, learn: whiners are losers every time.)
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To: dufekin; HoustonCurmudgeon
Hey, he violated your 24th amendment rights (poll tax).

You may have a point.
OK, I'll confess.. I ran the envelope through the postage machine at work.

So he violated the company's rights. In effect.

And they are based in Germany and opposed the war-on-terror so I'm happy all the way around.

Granted, my logic is skewed but so am I.

25 posted on 01/17/2005 5:13:35 PM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: holyscroller; All

I found this website on www.theterryAndersonsow.com

It looks like a gathering place so people all over the country can attend meetings and be active just about anywhere against illegal immigration.

http://immigrationcontrol.meetup.com/


26 posted on 01/17/2005 5:16:50 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: Czar
I already did. See post 17. A few dozen illegal votes is insignificant in one of the largest counties in the nation.

The fact that we go to the trouble to search the the voters' rolls for illegal voters and prosecute them instead of just whining about sealing the borders is the lesson one should draw from this article.

People voting illegally is a local crime problem, not an immigration problem. Treat it as a crime problem and it can be solved. Treat it as an immigration problem and it will just get worse.

27 posted on 01/17/2005 6:53:50 PM PST by bayourod (America, the greatest nation in history is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants are an asset.)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

Don't mess with Texas! YEEEEE HAW!

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28 posted on 01/18/2005 9:34:47 AM PST by viaveritasvita (HOLD THEIR DADGUMMED FEET TO THE FIRE!)
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To: bayourod
Like the rest of the illegal alien enthusiasts, you are deluding yourself if you think the extent of your problem is "...a few dozen illegal votes..." And no matter how small the quantity, no illegal vote is insignificant. Races can be won or lost because of a very few votes.

Given Houston's willingness to become "Little Mexico", one must doubt how much zeal will be applied in searching for illegal votes. Probably not much. That's the way this illegal alien thing works. Even in Houston.

Illegal voting is of course a crime. Treating it as exclusively a crime problem, as you advocate, would be to ignore the root cause of much of it--illegal aliens. While the open borders/amnesty gang would prefer that approach, it isn't going to wash with the rest of us--"us" meaning those people that still believe strongly in national sovereignty. And we're in the majority--by far.

29 posted on 01/18/2005 10:44:35 AM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: viaveritasvita; Czar; All

New poll up!

Do you believe the Bush Administration should inform Mexico's interior secretary that there is no 'right' for Mexican citizens to work in the United States?

Yes 96% 2204 votes

No 4% 98 votes

Total: 2302 votes

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30 posted on 01/18/2005 4:03:57 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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