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First-ever Evidence of Dissident Activity Inside N. Korea(a video to be aired on 01/18/05)
The Daily NK ^ | 01/17/05 | N/A

Posted on 01/17/2005 5:57:50 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

/begin my summary

First-ever Evidence of Dissident Activity Inside N. Korea

In the mid-December last year, a video recording "public" activities of a N. Korean dissident group in Hoi-ryong(a town in N.E. N. Korea near Chinese border), which occurred in last November was smuggled out of N. Korea, and into the possession of Doh Hee-yoon, a S. Korean human right activist. He brought it to S. Korea and invited some N. Korean refugees from the area. After going over it carefully, they found it to be authentic. The video will be aired in Asahi TV of Japan on Jan. 18, 2005 at 10pm. In this summary, only some pictures from video are shown.

The dissident group calls itself "Fraternity For Young Free People." The Daily NK also contacted some N. Korean refugees from the area and asked them to view the video. One was able to identify the trail the group took in the course of recording the video. He said, " They started from an empty lot at the entrance of Hoi-ryong Station(coming from Chong-jin.) It is near a small market 100m from the station. Next, they went to "Jan. 17" Factory at Kang-an Dong, and recorded the anti-Kim Jong-il poster. After that, I can see that they went to Kum-saeng Ri, and onto Chang-yo Ri."


Picture 1

Translation of posters:
Kim Jong-il ordered Jang Sung-taek's arrest.
How long are we going to be dirt-poor and dying?
Where are you dragging us into?
People, let us fight and regain freedom and democracy.
Fraternity For Free Young People



Picture 2

Dae-duk Middle School in Hoi-ryong

One of Anti-Kim Jong-il posters(Picture 1) were put up inside "Jan. 17" Factory and the other, on the pier of a bridge, leading to Dae-duk Middle School(Picture 2).

Picture 3

Translation of the graffiti:
Kim Jong-il, who are you?
You are a dictator.
People will not forgive you, and drive you out of your power.
We want freedom and democracy.
Reform and Open Door are the only ways for survival.
Fraternity For Free Young People

With the Kim Jong-il's portrait as a backdrop, a man in his 30's made a public announcement in the name of Fraternity For Young Free People. The portrait was defaced with anti-Kim Jong-il statements(Picture 3). He speech was a scathing indictment of Kim Jong-il. Another N. Korean refugee from the area commented that he must be one of locals because he put a stress on the first syllable of every spoken word, which is a peculiar feature of Hoi-ryong accent. One refugee from Pyongyang suspected that, judging from words and expressions used, educated elite are involved.

It is estimated that there are 10 active dissident groups near Sino-N. Korean border of Ham-kyong, Yang-gang, Ja-gang Provinces. Fraternity For Young Free People is one of them. If we count smaller groups, the number goes up to 30. The dissident group started to sprout after Kim Il-sung's death in '94. They are known to concentrate of these three provinces because they are where victims of regime were banished.

Interview with Doh Hee-yoon

The following interview is from Korean National Security Net.

How could you get hold of the video?

I did not have any direct connection to them. I got it from a Chinese friend in China, last November, who had links with indigenous dissident organizations. I brought the video into S. Korea, and reviewed it with N. Korean refugees from the area. We concluded that it is the authentic video of dissident activities inside N. Korea. However, I cannot divulge any details on this group.

Why did the group made this video and bring it to the outside world?

After the passage of N. Korean Human Right Act, things got pretty shaken up inside N. Korea. This may have led to activities of the group like this. They want outside support badly. This video must be the strong indication for that. I am sure that they want to have more international support for their cause, by publicizing their activities. At the same time, they also want to show where N. Korean people stand, to counter the actions of S. Korean government to further prop up Kim Jong-il regime.

Do you keep the contact with the group now?

No direct contact. However, we plan a project to help them.

Are there any other dissident groups other than this one?

There are not many of them. We do see groups of credible size operating, though.

Your group, CHNK, has been devoted to N. Korean refugees and S. Korean P.O.W.. Do you have plans to help dissident groups, to prepare for the change in N. Korea?

N. Korea is getting unglued. Exploiting the situation, we would like to set up a project to strongly support and strengthen them. We also do our best to alert outside world about N. Korea's atrocious human right violations.

What is your future plan?

As I have done before, I will keep going my way for abductees, N. Korean defectors, and N. Korean human right.

/end my summary


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dissident; humanright; kimjongil; nkorea; northkorea; skorea; video
I am sorry that I cannot translate the article in its entirety.
1 posted on 01/17/2005 5:57:58 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/17/2005 5:59:07 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

May God protect them..and help them become free.


3 posted on 01/17/2005 6:04:38 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The next step (which is probably being taken) is to mass produce such a video, and distribute that video surreptitiously throughout north korea, allowing even more there in the DPRK to see the underground efforts of some of them. Mao said, "a prairie fire is started by a single spark."


5 posted on 01/17/2005 6:11:33 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Anyone else see irony in prioritizing Iraq [w/no nukes] as N. Korea kept on making nukes [9 now] ?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Sen. Brownback ought to be made aware of this video!

After all, his legislation is credited with jump starting some of these courageous, anti-State activities within the police state up there.

And to think some Freepers actually were selfishly opposed to that legislation. Thank goodness they were an extreme minority and that things are continuing to happen, the pressure continuing to build through various underground venues in the DPRK.

6 posted on 01/17/2005 6:14:58 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Anyone else see irony in prioritizing Iraq [w/no nukes] as N. Korea kept on making nukes [9 now] ?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Re #5

Yeah, all we have to do is to stoke the fire. I think that this is what made Kim Jong-il so scared lately.

Hoi-ryong could be Timisoara of N. Korea. It was an uprising in Timisoara, a border town of Romania which led to the toppling of Ceaucescu in the capital city of Bucharest eventually.

7 posted on 01/17/2005 6:16:21 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: sweetlife812
I don't think that an invasion is on when the regime is going to focus more on controlling their own. If NK goes outside its border, it will be a "guns for hire" policy similar to how ex-Soviet Spetsnaz became gangsters.
8 posted on 01/17/2005 6:23:44 AM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Kim jong-il will very likely end up in some backyard, shot down along with his family, by the people, such as Ceaucescu's case...if we are lucky their will be a video of that, too, to prove the stake has finally been driven into the beast's heart.


9 posted on 01/17/2005 6:24:43 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Anyone else see irony in prioritizing Iraq [w/no nukes] as N. Korea kept on making nukes [9 now] ?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Dissidents in Iran and N. Korea get no play from the media, but they devote full attention to the "insurgents" in Iraq. That sure says a lot about liberals.


10 posted on 01/17/2005 6:58:56 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Those videos of the Rumanian crowd shouting "Timisoara! Timisoara!", while Ceaucescu, on the balconey, looking shaken and surprised, later yelling at them to "shut up", are classic. The looks on his and Elena's faces were classic! "What?! The people revolting against US?!"

The guy and the First Bitch were unceremoniously then taken out and shot, after they tried to escape from that palace by helicopter. One would hope for such a manifestation of people power, but I'm not sure if it would happen in Pyongyang, since that whole city seems to be "Class A" People, whom the regime can trust, and the more untrustworthy are out in the countryside. Perhaps it is there that Kim will meet his fate at the hands of the people.

11 posted on 01/17/2005 7:04:15 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Anyone else see irony in prioritizing Iraq [w/no nukes] as N. Korea kept on making nukes [9 now] ?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

WOW - this is awesome.

Question; what was that story a few weeks/months ago where some photos were taken down in North Korea that led to some speculation about Kim Jung Il's leadership??

We need to get some aid to these people.

Aid = money OR intelligence OR technology OR leave them alone ( whatever will help them the most/whatever they ask for inside North Korea )


12 posted on 01/17/2005 7:08:36 AM PST by the_gospel_of_thomas (Know your Enemy and Know yourself)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Methinks Lil' Kimmie's regime will fall sometime in the next decade.


13 posted on 01/17/2005 7:17:41 AM PST by RockinRight (Sanford for President in '08!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Your group, CHNK

Excuse me?

14 posted on 01/17/2005 7:38:34 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Great post. Not surprising.

So, what do we do. Rather than back the dissidents we decide to back the ChiComs backing Kim up.

15 posted on 01/17/2005 8:29:12 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Dissidents in Iran and N. Korea get no play from the media, but they devote full attention to the "insurgents" in Iraq. That sure says a lot about liberals.

Excellent point.

16 posted on 01/17/2005 8:30:40 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: RockinRight
Methinks Lil' Kimmie's regime will fall sometime in the next decade.

Might be a lot sooner than that --- like when the Chinese decide it's time to fall.

17 posted on 01/17/2005 8:46:10 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Of course. The media wouldn't want to encourage all us stupid people to liberate the Korean peninsula at last, liberate Iran at last, and eliminate budding nuclear threats into the bargain.


18 posted on 01/17/2005 8:50:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All

I got better idea

Tell Anti Kim Jong 11 group that Team America going be release in Mid March in America

so pre order copy on Amazon.com


19 posted on 01/17/2005 9:04:42 AM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: sweetlife812
I Blog Booksthen again they are just kids...

Kids with access to a factory. A "kid" in his 30s who is spokesman. I think you leapt from "young people" and a posting at a middle school to a false conclusion.
20 posted on 01/17/2005 9:20:36 AM PST by dr_pat (it's only sarcasm if you don't read too carefully...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Thank you.

I like the look of this. It looks out in the boonies, which my wild guess makes it less likely to be North Korean counterintelligence work.

21 posted on 01/17/2005 9:52:47 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: TigerLikesRooster

freedom bump


22 posted on 01/17/2005 11:56:35 AM PST by PianoMan (and now back to practicing)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The Sky held up by our mighty, benevolent ruler is falling!
23 posted on 01/17/2005 12:51:18 PM PST by Dimez Apart (Dimez Waz Here)
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To: Ditto
"like when the Chinese decide it's time to fall"

That is the operative point right there. The ChiComs are the only prop to this regime now. I think the dissent we see is being protected by them to put more pressure on Kim to play ball with the west. The ChiComs are in a crucial stage in their industrialization. They cannot afford any war related inerruptions in their oil supply.

Ever since I kept watch against these monsters accross the DMZ back in 91' I have had a special prayer for the average guy with his family in the DPRK. We watched a soldier get the tar beatten out of him once on the other side.

Communism = Socialism = Liberalism = Tyranny
24 posted on 01/17/2005 4:32:34 PM PST by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Optimist; ...

I find this development very hard to swallow. To organize against the NK Communists means certain death or at least a slow death in their infamous gulags. It is far more likely that these people are a phony opposition group designed to trick the West into believing that the NK Communists are moderating and/or losing their hold on power. Such a notion, if accepted in the West, could lead to a number of benefits to the NK Communists in the form of foreign aid, secret aid to the "opposition" which would be appropriated by the NK Communists, passing of disinformation from controlled NK "dissidents" to the CIA, and a consequent change/softening of our foreign policy towards NK. If these people are legit, then more power to them. But at this point, it is far more likely that the NK Communists are trying to suck the US and the West into one of their usual sting operations (and with the full complicity of Red China and Russia no doubt).


25 posted on 01/17/2005 7:05:30 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TigerLikesRooster; dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Optimist; ...

I find this development very hard to swallow. To organize against the NK Communists means certain death or at least a slow death in their infamous gulags. It is far more likely that these people are a phony opposition group designed to trick the West into believing that the NK Communists are moderating and/or losing their hold on power. Such a notion, if accepted in the West, could lead to a number of benefits to the NK Communists in the form of foreign aid, secret aid to the "opposition" which would be appropriated by the NK Communists, passing of disinformation from controlled NK "dissidents" to the CIA, and a consequent change/softening of our foreign policy towards NK. If these people are legit, then more power to them. But at this point, it is far more likely that the NK Communists are trying to suck the US and the West into one of their usual sting operations (and with the full complicity of Red China and Russia no doubt).


26 posted on 01/17/2005 7:06:00 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Happy2BMe; MeekOneGOP; tallhappy; Grampa Dave; devolve; onyx; ..
You have to ask yourself, "Do I feel rucky?" Well, doya, Kim Punk Il?


27 posted on 01/17/2005 7:49:00 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Makes his hair stand on end, doesn't it!!


28 posted on 01/17/2005 7:54:04 PM PST by potlatch (Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Where did you get your personality (just kidding!!)

LoL >> Dirty Harry at the tea party.

29 posted on 01/17/2005 11:12:14 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything- If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: e5man_r_u?

My brother was up at Hovey/Casey from 1994-1997 with the 2ID. Is that where you were?


30 posted on 01/19/2005 4:38:07 PM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Zhangliqun
"My brother was up at Hovey/Casey from 1994-1997 with the 2ID. Is that where you were? "

Yes, I was at Casey until the summer of 91' when I was on the DMZ for our 3 month rotation. We watched the NK watch us. One of them was watching me through the site of a recoilless rifle, which I thought rude. Other than that it was not bad.
31 posted on 01/19/2005 4:42:15 PM PST by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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To: e5man_r_u?
"One of them was watching me through the site of a recoilless rifle, which I thought rude"

Definately rude. Sign of a bad upbringing. Were the US soldiers allowed to give the NK's a taste of their own medicine?

32 posted on 01/19/2005 7:08:36 PM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: libs_kma
"Definately rude. Sign of a bad upbringing. Were the US soldiers allowed to give the NK's a taste of their own medicine?"

No, that would rude as well. We did however have food which we ate while they watched.
he he
Our strike capabilities were more carefully hidden.
33 posted on 01/20/2005 8:26:35 AM PST by e5man_r_u? (A Man's mission: Build, Protect, Provide)
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