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America Remembers Robert E. Lee
NewsMax ^ | 1/19/05 | Calvin E. Johnson Jr.

Posted on 01/18/2005 5:57:53 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: stainlessbanner

General Lee's family used to own Virginia Gentleman (the whiskey company); however, I believed they sold it.


62 posted on 01/18/2005 6:48:44 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: stainlessbanner

Thanks ... wow, lots of good stuff there that all my kids would probably like!

What's your favorite book on General Lee?


63 posted on 01/18/2005 6:49:41 PM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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To: wagglebee
Lee made a huge error trying to invade the north

My take on that has always been that he did it because his army was just about done from the years of defense. He saw that he was running out of men, and the invasion was the last gasp effort for victory.

64 posted on 01/18/2005 6:50:09 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Constitution Day; Tax-chick; Devereaux
Found a Lee book list for us

Also you might ask Devereaux which book he recommends....

65 posted on 01/18/2005 6:50:28 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Godebert

Thanks. She's reading this over my shoulder.

Happy birthday to you, as well!


66 posted on 01/18/2005 6:51:00 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Tax-chick

Freeman died in 1953.
http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0819603.html


67 posted on 01/18/2005 6:51:40 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: GregGinn

Lee was a very admirable man. Didn't the South attack the North first though. The slave thing. The North tried to make it an ideological war instead of the percieved attacking war. Note that the slaves in Union border states weren't freed.


68 posted on 01/18/2005 6:52:01 PM PST by onja
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To: stainlessbanner; Constitution Day; Devereaux
Call of Duty: The Sterling Nobility of Robert E. Lee by J. Stephen Wilkins, et al

This one I've seen at home school conventions, and considered buying, but we're always pinching pennies ... and not exactly a complete biography.

Opinion, Mr. Devereaux, on the best biography of General Lee, extra points for a living author?

69 posted on 01/18/2005 6:53:55 PM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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To: wagglebee
Had Virginia not seceded from the Union, General Lee would be remembered today as one of the most beloved presidents in American history.

Instead we remember him as the guy who got whooped by the North at Gettysburg

--time to duck---

:-)

70 posted on 01/18/2005 6:54:47 PM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: JCunningham
So is it possible that slavery was wrong and Lee was right, both, simultaneously?

This whole post is stated perfectly.

Thank you!

Our Country has suffered from not acknowledging his stature. Along with others in our not too distant past.

71 posted on 01/18/2005 6:55:58 PM PST by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His Blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: Ciexyz
I remember visiting Arlington House and feeling a great sense of sadness when the guide explained how Lee had to choose between his home and his duty to his home state.

Not to mention that his home became Arlington Cemetary

72 posted on 01/18/2005 6:56:00 PM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: Tax-chick
Never read an entire book about Lee - I'm familiar with some of his letters and military strategy, but I have not studied the man as much as I would like. His commitment to God, Country, and Family is more admirable than most Americans period.

Having read other Burke Davis works, his "Gray Fox: Robert E. Lee and the Civil War" might be worth checking out, but I have always accepted Freeman as the authority on Lee.

73 posted on 01/18/2005 6:56:35 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: wagglebee

What a magnificent horse.

Both were the best of America.

74 posted on 01/18/2005 6:57:18 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: don-o

Lee had just won the Second Battle of Manassas (Bull Run) in 1862 when he went north into Maryland and fought to a draw at Antietam in mid-September of 1862. Antietam was a bloodbath for both sides; however, it was a bid demoralizer for the South. All of the major battles up to that point had gone to Lee. Gettysburg was the "last gasp" you are talking about.


75 posted on 01/18/2005 6:57:23 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: onja

Lee ranks up with Rommel and Hannibal (to me) as a great strategist.


76 posted on 01/18/2005 6:57:58 PM PST by onja
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To: onja
The South did not attack the North.

The war really began when Lincoln called for volunteers. There was no other purpose for this than to force the South back into the Union.

The first shots were fired at Fort Pickens, but the real start was when the North decided to resupply Ft. Sumter.

This fort blocked the major port of the South.

77 posted on 01/18/2005 6:58:33 PM PST by yarddog
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To: TexConfederate1861; GregGinn
"Some of us care to think he fought on the RIGHT side!"

Some of us KNOW he fought on the right side!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, GENERAL LEE, SIR!

78 posted on 01/18/2005 6:59:03 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: GregGinn

You should also consider the fact that only a very small proportion of white Southerners of the Civil War period owned slaves ... but a very large percentage fought against the invaders. (And black Southerners included not only slaves, but free black slave-owners, and both slave and free black Confederate soldiers!)

Real history is always more complicated than sound-bite ideology. The nobility of General Lee is beyond the details of history. He was a truly saintly man, and I say that as a Catholic :-). We consider General Lee and General Jackson the "patron saints" of our home school, and we firmly believe they are in Heaven praying for us.


79 posted on 01/18/2005 6:59:28 PM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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To: 1LongTimeLurker

Where I come from, we still remember him as General Lee, he was ultimately forced to surrender to an ungentlemanly slob who became a drunken disgrace whose presidency was mired in scandal and incompetence.


80 posted on 01/18/2005 6:59:45 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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