MIKE OPENS FIRE ON GUN MAKERS

New York Post ^ | 1/19/05 | TOM TOPOUSIS

[kattracks]

For the first time in the nation, gun makers and dealers are now liable for injuries or deaths caused by the criminal use of their weapons, under a landmark law signed yesterday by Mayor Bloomberg.

The law — one of four bills signed regulating gun sales and possession — goes further than any other city's effort to hold the gun industry financially responsible for crimes involving their weapons.

"We need to do everything we can to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and out of the hands of children," said Bloomberg. "There's just no argument here. Guns kill people, it's time to get them off the street."

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Among the rules that could hold a dealer or manufacturer liable are multiple gun sales to one person or sales at a gun show without performing a criminal-background check.

[JCEccles]

This attack is on gun owners everywhere, not just in NYC. The enormous costs generated by this law will be distributed generally throught the gun manufacturers' ownership base.

Liberals are working hard to destroy the Second Amendment through vexatious civil lawsuits. The question is, is there a sufficient majority on the Supreme Court to reverse the trend? Presently I would have to say there is not.

[.38sw]

I hate that phrase, too. We don't let our guns out unescorted.

[paulcissa]

Bloomberg...What a maroon. This guy's the poster child for America's RINO's. He might as well be David Dinkens.

Thanks Mike, but no thanks. All the existing laws haven't kept handguns out of the hands of your beloved criminal population; a few more couldn't hurt your image, right? At least it appears like your doing something for your constituants and financial supporters. Yeah, that's the ticket.

One-term Mikey. Might as well stir the pot as much as you can now, times almost up.

[JCEccles]

Under the stream of commerce doctrine, any gun manufacturer who should reasonably foresee that its guns would end up in New York City could be sued in NYC under this law, even if the manufacturer has no physical presence in New York. I cannot think of a gun manufacturer who could successfully argue that it was not reasonably foreseeable that its guns would end up in New York City. Even if a gun manufacturer could prevail, the costs of litigating and appealing the jurisdictional issue alone could run into millions or even tens of millions of dollars.

As I said, liberals know how to attack our rights in precise and expensive ways the founders never dreamed of. It helps their cause that they own the courts.

[CPOSharky]

...sales at a gun show without performing a criminal-background check.

Come and get me Mikey, I've done that several times.

[CPOSharky]

Leagally.

[Ghengis]

I am no attorney, but...

...To me it makes more legal sense that the Mayor be held personally liable for each case of a person being victimized of a violent crime in New York City. Particularly since the city politicians are so hellbent on removing a citizen's God given right to defend themselves.

I don't see how people can live in a place like that.

[ORECON]

Well well, Micky came out of the DemocRat closet?

[kevao]

"There's just no argument here. Guns kill people, it's time to get them off the street."

None of my guns have ever killed anyone. Must be defective.

[jmc813]

I am so donating money to whatever Democrat runs against this $hithead.

[JoeV1]

Someone please answer the following for me.


Scenario 1- I am a gun mfr, I produce a pistol and sell it to a wholesaler or a gun shop owner. All paperwork is in order, all rules and regs have been followed. I am paid for my pistol and the deal is finished.

Gun shop owner sells gun to my neighbor. Gun shop owner fails to do necessary back round check before turning over gun to my neighbor. neighbor goes home, fights with wife, kills same.

Scenario-2 same as above only the gun shop owner does complete properly the back round check and my neighbor goes home with the gun. After a week he realizes he doesn't want the gun and sells it to a friend, no back round check no anything, a quick and simple cash transaction. Said friend kills his wife with gun.

Is the gun mfr responsible in either of these cases and if so what is the reasoning under this law?

Thanks for any light you can shed on this seemingly absurd law.

[King Prout]

I reckon this shall get overturned at some level in the court system.

[DMZFrank]

"There's just no argument here. Guns kill people, it's time to get them off the street."

Totalitarian types love to close off arguments against their unconstitutional actions by saying that there is no argument, when it is easy to cite a plethora of arguments against them.

[lowbridge]

So who died and named the New York City Council to be our new federal government?