Posted on 01/20/2005 12:00:57 AM PST by Ramtek57
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Former President Jimmy Carter has been linked with a key figure in the U.N.'s oil-for-food scandal by the group leading the nationwide effort to evict the United Nations from American soil and halt U.S. funding of the U.N.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42464
This thread has potential.
Jimmy's Got Some Splaining to do .. PING
Former President Jimmy Carter has been linked with a key figure in the U.N.'s oil-for-food scandal by the group leading the nationwide effort to evict the United Nations from American soil and halt U.S. funding of the U.N.
Move America Forward today will call upon Carter to provide a full accounting of his meetings and conversations with Samir Vincent, who yesterday pleaded guilty to participating in numerous illegal activities as part of the U.N. scandal.
"President Carter needs to tell the American people exactly what relationships he had with the individuals involved in the oil-for-food scandal," said Melanie Morgan, co-chairman of Move America Forward, which is running television ads attacking the U.N. on national cable news networks, conducting an online petition drive and soliciting contributions to spread the message of the TV spots.
Samir Vincent admitted on Tuesday to receiving allocations for more than 9 million barrels of oil between 1996 and 2003 in return for serving as an agent of Saddam Hussein's regime. Vincent worked at Hussein's direction, lobbying U.S. and U.N. officials to end sanctions and to instead implement the oil-for-food scam.
"Did President Carter know he was dealing with an agent of Saddam Hussein or was he just terribly gullible?" asked Morgan. "And if he truly was naïve as to Samir Vincent's true agenda, then now is the time for him to come forward and repudiate Mr. Vincent and his actions."
According to U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, "Vincent lobbied former officials of the United States government, who maintained close contacts to high-ranking members of both the Clinton and Bush administrations."
Ashcroft asserted that Vincent reported the results of his efforts with these former U.S. officials to the Iraqi Intelligence Service.
Based upon an investigation by Move America Forward, it appears President Carter and his associates are among the former officials with whom Vincent collaborated.
"One of two things happened," suggests Morgan. "Either President Carter was totally duped, and allowed himself to be conned into working as an indirect agent of Saddam Hussein, or President Carter knowingly associated himself with a foreign agent who was seeking to undermine American foreign policy."
The first documented contact between Former President Carter and Samir Vincent was in September 1999. Vincent had organized a tour of Iraqi religious leaders to meet with individuals in the United States who might be persuaded to speak out against the sanctions against Iraq. The trip also included discussions of ways to oppose U.S. and U.K. air strikes against Iraqi missile batteries in southern Iraq, which had fired on American and British aircraft engaged in enforcing the southern "No Fly Zone."
The meeting with Carter was one of the highlights of the trip. Carter and his wife, Rosalynn, welcomed the Vincent-organized delegation into their home in Plains, Georgia.
The weekly Iraqi newspaper, al-Raee, reported that Carter expressed his sympathies with the Iraqi people and railed against the "stringent" sanctions imposed against Iraq as a result of the nation's 1990 invasion of Kuwait. The report claimed that Carter had promised to send his wife and son to Iraq. Along with the story was a photograph of Carter with the three religious dignitaries who were part of Vincent's anti-sanctions lobbying tour.
After the meeting at Carter's house, the Carters' son, Chip, escorted the delegation to a tour of the Carter Center in Atlanta, Georgia. Carter and his wife founded the Carter Center and their son, Chip, serves as vice president. The Carter Center went on to become an ideological missile silo against any U.S. policies that were not favorable towards Iraq," according to Move America Forward.
Carter and his associates have been particularly vicious in their criticisms of President Bush and his Iraq policy, say Move America Forward officials. According to the Ghana News Agency, Chip Carter said President Bush was "bringing back the ugly politics where other people see America as the enemy."
Chip Carter added, "there has to be a regime change" not in Iraq but in America so as to bring an end the Bush administration.
Carter went on to note that it was the United Nations that was best able to handle the Iraqi question, and not the United States.
The Carter Center website features op-eds in which Carter criticizes the Bush administration's decision to use military force in Iraq as well as an interview by Carter and his wife in which he claimed military action against Iraq would be a "tragic mistake." Carter argued in a 2002 interview that the situation should be dealt with by the United Nations Security Council through the issuance of new U.N. Resolutions or the enforcement of existing resolutions.
"Obviously Jimmy Carter didn't understand that it was the United Nations resolutions that authorized the use of force, which is why coalition forces took military action against Iraq. Saddam Hussein was not abiding by the U.N.'s resolutions for 12 years, yet Jimmy Carter pretends not to be aware of this fact," said Morgan.
The ties between Carter, his associates and Vincent did not end in 1999. Earlier, in 1977, Carter and his wife, along with Wayne Smith, formed an organization called "Friendship Force." The organization promoted cultural exchanges between individuals of different nations as a way of building "friendship" between different countries.
The slogan of Friendship Force is: "A World of Friends is a World of Peace." Chip Carter is also vice president of the "Friendship Force." Smith was a close confidant of President Carter's, serving as the Carter administrations chief diplomat to Cuba. In February, 2001, Smith teamed up with another Carter confidant, Andrew Young, Carter's pick as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, to launch a private corporation, "A World of Friends."
"A World of Friends" was an Atlanta-based company launched with a board of directors totaling seven individuals including Vincent, Smith and Young. Vincent was described in the firm's first press release as the "president of an energy company."
The company charged individuals $49.95 to enter their profile on a website as a means to meet other individuals from around the world who happened to share their interests. The website is now inactive. Network Solutions reports that no one currently owns the domain name.
It is unclear how much business was actually done or how Vincent was compensated if at all.
"It's the last point where we can place the cooperation between Carter Administration officials and Samir Vincent," said Morgan said. "President Carter needs to come clean to the American people. Based on what we are being told, President Carter has refused to speak to the media about his involvement with Samir Vincent. "It's kind of curious that a man like Jimmy Carter could be so verbose for the past few years in condemning America's foreign policy as it relates to Iraq. But now he is mute. It really makes you wonder what exactly transpired between Carter, his administration's officials and those who were working as Saddam Hussein's agents."
Maybe he can make ammends by finding all the ill-gotten gains and using them to buy back the Panama Canal.
Are you part of the problem or a dupe, Jimmy? Tell us and then say that what was done was wrong.
Again it is the "One of two things happened" outcome. Either the accused elitist is stupid and ignorant (unlikely) or it is agenda.
Yep it does. Nailing Carter would be a major embarrassment to the left, but we should be careful to nail Carter only if he deserves it.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
Sorry, I tried to keep a straight face, I really did.
How can such "caring" worldly" people be such complete idiots? The mind reels.
bttt
Big Bump. Keep this alive for tomorrow morning. If not, I'm sure the article will be posted many more times.
Carter needs to be brought up on charges of treason. Everything he does seems to be in opposition to U.S. interests.
For that matter, everything he does seems to be in opposition to the interests of anybody around the world who seeks the freedom we enjoy as U.S. citizens.
When he was President, I always thought he was a good man, but inept and naive.
I have come to believe that nobody can be as inept and naive as he appears to be, so I am starting to conclude that he is a actually corrupt or evil, posing as a good man.
No truly good person would run around the world attempting to prop up evil dictators the way he does.
Just you imagine if this had been a Republican former president--it would not have to be reported by WND, but would be non-stop in the NY Slimes (oops...that of course assumes the Slimes cares to report on the oil-for-food scandal).
If so, you may also be gullible. Carter was never as outspoken against US interests until the late 90's. Now we know the reason.
That's pretty damning,right there!
It's amazing how Carter is tied to all three members of the Axis of Evil: Iran (Islamic Revolution thanks to Carter), Iraq (Saddam Hussein may have come to power as a result of the prior event) and finally, North Korea (Who would have thought he'd be an architect of another foreign policy failure THIRTEEN YEARS after leaving office!)
So now it is an Oil for Peanuts scam?
How about both? Stupid and has an agenda?
I agree. Nobody that old and with that much experience can be as naive as Carter pretends to be. He has and continues to be willingly and deliberately engaged in sedition and should be tried for such.
"One of two things happened," suggests Morgan. "Either President Carter was totally duped, and allowed himself to be conned into working as an indirect agent of Saddam Hussein, or President Carter knowingly associated himself with a foreign agent who was seeking to undermine American foreign policy."
"appears" is the key word here.
Carter and his wife, Rosalynn, welcomed the Vincent-organized delegation into their home in Plains, Georgia. ... The Carter Center went on to become an ideological missile silo against any U.S. policies that were not favorable towards Iraq," according to Move America Forward.
Hmmm.
an interview by Carter and his wife in which he claimed military action against Iraq would be a "tragic mistake."
As opposed to Saddam's military action against his own countrymen, which obviously was a smashing success.
Based on what we are being told, President Carter has refused to speak to the media about his involvement with Samir Vincent. "It's kind of curious that a man like Jimmy Carter could be so verbose for the past few years in condemning America's foreign policy as it relates to Iraq. But now he is mute. It really makes you wonder what exactly transpired between Carter, his administration's officials and those who were working as Saddam Hussein's agents."
Will anyone coerce Carter to start talking? I wonder.
Thats right, hopefully the talk shows and Fox will pick up on this and run with it.
This is so special .. finally the chickens are coming home to roost. After all their smarmy comments - and here they are with their fingers in the cookie jar.
Too funny!
AIM Report: Saddam's Secret Campaign to Stop the War - December 23, 2004
"Ritter was involved in secret negotiations for a "peace plan" that had the approval of both Jimmy Carter and Saddam Hussein"
"Ritter told AIM he contacted former U.S. president Jimmy Carter about the plan, both directly and through former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev's office. (Gorbachev currently heads the Gorbachev Foundation, a Moscow-based think tank.) Ritter said, "When Carter first heard of it he indicated support. Then he decided as a former president he could not make the trip." However, once the plan became public, Carter planned on announcing his support of it, Ritter said.
Carter told AIM via a spokesman, "No such trip was planned," and cited travel and schedule considerations as reason to decline further comment."
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On the John Batchelor program WABC tonight
a story, related to this
by Eric Shawn of the Fox News Channel
who has been working on this
along with the magnificent Claudia Rosset
of the WSJ and the Sun newspaper.
"Who's worried now, who's on the 38th floor?"
"This is the largest grand larceny in human history."
A grand jury in New York has indicted an Iraqi-American
the same Samir A. Vincent mentioned in this article
who is co-operating in hopes of a plea bargain.
He was an unregistered lobbyist for the Iraqi government
he received money and passed money
millions
and has named a 'high UN official'
who received a very large bribe in 1996.
This is the first time on record
of another high ranking UN official
(the first was Benon Savan)
receiving a bribe.
(This official could not be Benon Savan
who did not join the Oil for Food Program until 1997)
Mark Melloch-Brown (sp?) of the UN just a day before
made a statement said that there is trouble coming
and there will be a major overhaul of the upper echelons
of the UN.
The grand jury also is investigating Kofi Annan's son, Kojo.
Expect lots of new developments soon.
Uh oh..... Peanut Breath is in BIG trouble - finally!
Melanie Morgan, co-chairman of Move America Forward, is the wrong person to have on your case...
She has access to the KSFO "Hot Talk" radio microphone in her hands - 5 days per week for 4 hours a day!
Yes - it's THAT Melanie....The Melanie that is on with Lee Rodgers every weekday...
Good for her..
Semper Fi
From the NYPost:http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/21499.htm
'OIL' FEDS QUIZ KEMP
By NILES LATHEM Post Correspondent
January 20, 2005 -- WASHINGTON Former Republican vice-presidential candidate and New York Congressman Jack Kemp has been questioned by the FBI in the U.N. oil-for-food scandal, it was revealed last night. Newsweek magazine reported on its Web site that the ex-Buffalo Bills quarterback faces scrutiny about his dealings with Virginia-based oil trader Samir Vincent, who earlier this week became the first figure to be formally charged with criminal wrongdoing in the $21.3 billion global scandal. The magazine identified Kemp as the former senior U.S. government official whom the feds said Vincent contacted on behalf of Saddam Hussein in an attempt to weaken and repeal sanctions on Iraq
I hope some FReepers/Protest Warriors are making some modifications to their signs for tomorrow that read something about this. Something like, "Investigate Carter's connections to Oil-for-food"
"Did President Carter know he was dealing with an agent of Saddam Hussein or was he just terribly gullible?"
I vote for gullible too! lol
Carter is proof that even stupid people can graduate from a military academy.
In my opinion RATS are never gullible when it comes to dirty money. They know exactly what they are doing!
Look at Slick's record for more proof.
It's long past due for them to be held accountable for what they do.
My vote is on willful, intentional, anti-American behavior..
Peanut Breath is still angry that his was a failed and inept Presidency, and is hell bent to punish Americans for not loving and respecting him as much as the Communist/Islamist bastards of the world, "love and respect him"....
Carter has always been the GOLD STANDARD for "useful idiot" to the enemies of America.
Semper Fi
Carter wasn't really involved with the oil-for-food program; he just lusted after it in his heart.
Do you know if UN officials qualify for diplomatic immunity?
More popcorn!
bttt
This is big. It'll be interesting to see how, or if, the media plays it.
BTTT
No kidding!
I would assume so.
I wonder even if a UN official could be charged under US law.
The bigger question here is who will be left standing if, when, and after, oil-for-food can be unbiasedly investigated?
Which I doubt is possible.
bttt
Carter is a buddy of Ramsay Clark then?
Vincent's cost of doing business, a token sum to Chip's pet project, some rosy language to placate the rube Carter family, and the religious leaders used as pawns to create the veneer of respectable humanitarian. Vincent almost walked away with millions in profits, Carter is not even gullible, he's imbecilic in his simplicity. His vanity blinds him to a classic scam, for this man was so easily sated in his appetite for respectability and reverence he fell hook line and sinker for this huckster's hustle. So Jimmy Carter might be innocent, but his reputation won't even be mentioned in the future history books.
This could turn into an intriguing movie though. Elements of James Bond flicks, Clancy novels, and realistic war movies like Black Hawk Down. Might be made too, cause the Americans will be the fools.
Bush should pardon him immediately, and very publicly. That would be great, really...JFK
As intensely as I hate Jimmy Carter I question this story. Carter is driven by ego, lust for power and attention, and an obsessive self righteousness. I don't think the quest for money is in his makeup.
In re your six paragraphs of comment:
1. This topic is a huge political bombshell and will probably be the Democrat Party's worse nightmare. Maybe the association/participation of a few more high-profile Dems will be revealed.
2., 4. & 5. Carter certainly did present himself as well-meaning. But so sanctimonious, and also a nitpicking micro-manager. Since he chose to associate (cavort?) almost exclusively with Socialists and their causes over at least the last decade, this revelation will reward him with a well deserved comeuppance.
3. Did Ol' Jimmie ever meet a Socialist or learn about a socialist program he didn't like?
I dispute with you about "freedom we enjoy as U.S. citizens." Think IRS. And I urge you to become acquainted with the legal definition of U.S. citizen or alternatively, "citizen of the United States" and the liabilities and jurisdiction individual Americans innocently accept when they voluntarily define themselves as such.
6. Unfortunately, the U.S. government has been cultivating and financing tyrannical regimes since at least WWII. The U.S. financed Saddam Hussein until he attacked Kuwait. Same with Manuel Noriega who's now kept in permanent solitary confinement. Knows too much that would embarrass the U.S. government.
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