Posted on 01/20/2005 3:14:50 AM PST by freepatriot32
"When 10:30 rolls around im going to go to burger king and order a bacon double cheeseburger with extra bacon and a couple of extra slices of cheese just to counteract the effects o f reading this story :-)"
Amd there's probably no trans-fat in there, save maybe a drop in the bun.
"This trans-fat craze is just a fad that will pass. Reasearch shows that we actually need some in our diet, especially kids during their growing years. Everything in moderation is still the best diet."
You're confusing trans-fats (hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated oils) with saturated fat.
Trans-fats are a manmade invention, they are solid at 98.6 degrees - which is why they clog your arteries.
"How about Skippy peanutbutter? It's got partially hydrogenated Veggy oils....I guess i should curve my use of this deadly food. hehehe"
They make peanut butter like you find in the grocery store by removing the fat from it, hydrogenating the fat, then putting it back in. They do this so that the fat in PB won't separate out at room temperature.
My grandmother used to refrigerate her natural peanut butter to keep the fat from separating out. That is a better alternative, methinks.
The amount of PHVO in "regular" peanut butters is very, very, small.
Hydrogenating vegatable oils is truly some sort of mad scientist invention. The fats we consume are hydrocarbon chains (like petroleum) expcept that they are attached to a another common molucule (can't remember this without my chemistry book, maybe glycol). The unsaturated oils are the ones that are missing hydrogens on the hydrocarbon chains, and saturated oils are the ones that have all the hydrogens you would expect to see on a normal hydrocarbon chain. So here is the mad scientists solution - bubble hydrogen through an unsaturated vegetable oil so that you end up with a saturated oil that is solid at room temperature like a saturated fat. Pretty stupid, but what is worse, these new hydrogens don't simply fill in the holes in an unsaturated fat, they stack up on each other, creating something that is rarely found in natural food that people eat. Should we be surprised to find that this stuff is bad for lots of people? I am all for better living through chemistry, but this is one clear example where people have not been given the whole truth and government was too stupid to step in and tell the mad scientists and profits-uber-alles crowd to head back to the drawing board.
Really? I thought it was a significant portion of the re-formulated oil.
Have you got any documentation on that?
"The amount of PHVO in "regular" peanut butters is very, very, small."
I looked it up.
You are quite correct.
Amazing what you learn on FR.
"I've started buying Eggland's Best eggs. No additives or hormones in the feed. They have a better taste than regular eggs."
Excellent egg ping.
Thanks. I guess it has a longer shelf life in our arteries too!
Exactly. Our bodies have as hard of a time digesting trans fat as do bacteria. Its probably like trying to digest plastic.
I just bought a Saltines brand cracker without trans fat. It was in a green and white box. It doesn't taste great (is very dry) but goes just fine with soup and such.
According to http://www.jif.com/sitewide/faq.asp most peanut butters will be listed as having zero trans fats the amount is so small.
Also see http://www.peanutbutterlovers.com/nutrition/transfats.html.
Man, I could go for some peanut butter right now.
If you have a Safeway or Giant near you, you might like to try their own natural brand of peanut butter. The ingredients are: peanuts and salt.
They are really, really cheap, too. I save a lot of money on their brand over other natural brands. They are even cheaper than regular peanut butter at the Safeway.
The fat on that hog isn't trans-fat. Lard and butter aren't trans-fat. We use butter, not margarine. I haven't had a stick of maragarine in the house for years. Nothing but butter for us.
Smuckers has a natural one with no partially hydrogenated oils. It isn't easy like the "spreadable" ones, but I eat a bit of it. Don't eat much peanut butter anyway. I burned myself out on peanut butter and bananas on toast after having it just about every morning for years.
Thank you all for your pings. I'm glad that skippy doesn't have too much of that fatty stuff.
One out of three ain't bad. The eggs are good for you. The bran is useless, the soy is harmful. (Google-search "Soy Alert" sometime.)
BTTT
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