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Find them! Feds hunt ‘terror team’ as pols appeal for calm [Panic in 'Pinkville!]
The Boston Herald ^ | January 20, 2005 | By Tom Farmer and Michele McPhee

Posted on 01/20/2005 7:24:52 AM PST by johnny7

Authorities are scouring Boston for four Chinese nationals and two Iraqi men who may pose a nuclear threat to the city based on a report from an unidentified man calling from Mexico who claims to have smuggled them over the U.S. border.

“They got a call from across the border in Mexico to the California Highway Patrol several days ago, and he said he brought two Iraqis and four Chinese (individuals) across the border and according to him, they stated soon to follow behind them would be some sort of (nuclear) material,'' said a law enforcement source. “He refers to some sort of nuclear material that will follow them through New York up into Boston.” The threat was serious enough that Mayor Thomas M. Menino ordered Police Commissioner Kathleen O'Toole and Fire Commissioner Paul Christian and the city's Homeland Security chief into his office at City Hall, where they conducted a conference call with officials from the CIA, FBI, and Homeland Security Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. The Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency also activated its bunker in Framingham with a downscaled staff.

According to the source, the caller has not identified himself and did not show up for a meeting with federal investigators in California, but he did leave pictures and the names of two Chinese men and two Chinese women - reportedly chemists - at a ``drop'' site at the Mexico-California border. The information also makes reference to something happening ``within four days,'' said another law enforcement source. Federal authorities in Boston identified the Chinese nationals being sought for questioning as Zengrong Lin, Wen Quin Zheng, Xiujin Chen and Guozhi Lin.Sources said investigators have no information on the two Iraqis - including their gender.

In Somerville, an MBTA bus driver dropped off two passengers she thought looked like two of the suspects on flyers handed out by transit police. But after police converged on a Dunkin' Donuts near the Assembly Square Mall, the suspects were nowhere to be found. Somerville police said no arrests were made. Menino downplayed the threat, urging residents to partake in their normal activities. ``Public safety is our first priority,'' Menino said, while stressing the report fielded by the Boston Joint Terrorism Task Force came from a ``single anonymous source'' and has not been confirmed. Gov. Mitt Romney, in Washington, D.C., for President Bush's inauguration, flew back to Massachusetts last night. ``We have had threats in the past. We take them seriously, even when they're not corroborated,'' he said.

White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card told the Herald last night that President Bush was informed of the uncorroborated Boston threat at his daily intelligence briefing yesterday morning. “I'm shocked it made it into the newspaper because I don't think it is something that has been fully vetted,'' Card said. ``It was during the intelligence briefing . . . the president was given this sketchy intelligence. It was truly sketchy intelligence, but . . . anytime you hear the words that surround this kind of intelligence, it invites greater scrutiny.'' Attorney General Tom Reilly also downplayed the seriousness of the tip last night. ``We don't even know if these individuals are in the country,'' Reilly said, adding ``it's information that needs to be followed up.''

Sources said much of the man's information sounds far-fetched and investigators have some doubts about the caller's validity because he has not identified himself. ``A lot of it doesn't make sense and some of it does,'' said one source. ``It's totally uncorroborated. This all began several days ago as a series of phone calls and they don't know who the caller is. There are some parts of it that just don't make sense and other little pieces of it that fall into place.'' Another source said investigators have located an area along the U.S. border that matches the man's description of where he smuggled the six people across. “They have corroborated the spot where he claims to have taken them over,'' said the source.

Multiple sources said there is speculation the caller may have been ripped off by the illegal aliens and is now trying to exact revenge. “It's very weird. Even if (the Iraqis and Chinese) were going to do something, why would they be blabbing to the yahoo smuggling them across the border?'' one source noted. “You have to wonder if they screwed him on a deal but you have to treat it seriously and the issue is how do you put it out to the public and not get everybody (in a panic)?“      


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; immigrantlist; jihadinamerica; wot
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“But after police(on a tip) converged on a Dunkin' Donuts near the Assembly Square Mall, the suspects were nowhere to be found. Somerville police said no arrests were made.”

I can just see that overweight, overpaid, 2200-strong, Boston police force making sure that they don't profile or violate anyones privacy.

Interesting sidelight: After 9/111, Ed Markey... a MA (D)Rep., called for AA batteries to be positioned around nuclear facilities. Shades of the movie '1941'!

1 posted on 01/20/2005 7:24:52 AM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7

If this is for real.


2 posted on 01/20/2005 7:30:00 AM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitus)
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To: johnny7
20 January 2005--The FBI has issued a BOLO to law enforcement to be on the lookout for 11 Chinese nationals. They are reportedly armed and dangerous "All pose a risk to national security".

Mei Xia Dong DOB: 05/30/1982
Xiuming Chen
Chang Yin Liu
Xiujin Chen DOB: 12/15/1984
Guozhi Lin DOB: 03/08/1991
Zengrong Lin DOB: 10/27/1982
Yu Xiang Weng DOB: 10/04/1963 or 04/05/1964
Qiquan Lin
Min Xiu Xie DOB: 11/21/1977
Xing Wei Liu
Liqiang Liang

Per BOLO: "If located, detain and hold for questioning. Suspects are believed to have entered the US via New York or Boston.

3 posted on 01/20/2005 7:31:51 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: johnny7
...but he did leave pictures and the names of two Chinese men and two Chinese women - reportedly chemists - at a ``drop'' site at the Mexico-California border.

Two thoughts. I wonder how the "yahoo" managed to get photos of these four. And how did the Federal authorities get the credit for identifing them when the informant provided their names?

4 posted on 01/20/2005 7:32:49 AM PST by Quilla
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To: johnny7
Task Force Leader

Was there word if whether the DD needed to be closed down due to lack of supply?

5 posted on 01/20/2005 7:32:53 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (lex orandi, lex credendi)
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To: Rutles4Ever
Guozhi Lin DOB: 03/08/1991

That makes this person, what, 13?

6 posted on 01/20/2005 7:33:42 AM PST by eyespysomething (He who buries his head in the sand offers a tempting target.)
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To: johnny7

Most of those cops are Italian and Irish Americans -- they wouldn't go for PC if the mayor and his Police Commissioner weren't on their backs.


7 posted on 01/20/2005 7:33:56 AM PST by expatpat
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To: eyespysomething

Yeah, that's an interesting observation.

Smacks of Palestinians using teenagers to do their dirty work...


8 posted on 01/20/2005 7:35:59 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: johnny7

This is hilarious. A coyote with a heart of gold? Suuure.


9 posted on 01/20/2005 7:36:51 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

ANSWER.......POLICE THE BORDERS STRONGLY!!!!!!
YES WITH NATIONAL GUARD.
STOP ILLEGAL TRASH from flooding in like a tsunami.

Yes, I am screaming because this is a serious issue and someone needs to listen including our soon to be newly inaugarated President. I would say, for there to be Freedom Mr President there must be protection!!


10 posted on 01/20/2005 7:37:54 AM PST by stopem
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To: johnny7
My speculation:

It's a hoax by a secure borders advocate.

11 posted on 01/20/2005 7:42:21 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith

My speculation:

You're E.O.M. or Daleel al Mohajid.


12 posted on 01/20/2005 7:43:41 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Maybe not a heart of gold, but a heart intent on profits--after all, if the US is significantly damaged, his "clients" won't be so anxious to enter the country--and his profits go down.


13 posted on 01/20/2005 7:45:34 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Hi sheep!


14 posted on 01/20/2005 7:45:54 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith

Listen Muzzie, don't talk to me like that or I'll sue you for sexual harrassment.


15 posted on 01/20/2005 7:49:48 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: mrsmith

Well, you'll have to admit you're something of a Islamofacist apologist, if someone takes the time to read your "in forum" posts, as I did. You've chosen sides, but maybe not the one best for our country.


16 posted on 01/20/2005 7:50:49 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: mrsmith

That's one helluva hoax. Hmmm... Why would they use people of Chinese descent as a ruse when most of them come here for political asylum, not terrorist activity?

Doesn't compute. They can pick any nameless, faceless Middle Eastern types and they go with a Chinese red herring?

C'mon. That's not exactly bang for the buck.


17 posted on 01/20/2005 7:51:20 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

Apparently there are a lot of Muslims in some parts of China. It's logical that some might be radicals. But whether or not this is true, I have no idea, and hope it's not.


18 posted on 01/20/2005 7:53:27 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Quilla
I would guess the Mexican authorities... boy... thats scary.

Boston is so chock-packed with third world and anti-Bush fanatics that these guys could easily find safe haven upon arrival.

The mayor is a 'Dinkens' style, old-school liberal. He epitomizes Massachusetts hackdom.

If it's ONLY a 'dirty bomb'... Boston would be a a more 'acceptable'(for a lack of a better word) victim than most large cities. It's right on the eastern shore, it's low and the wind blows from the west.

The worst-case would be an actual nuclear weapon.

19 posted on 01/20/2005 7:54:22 AM PST by johnny7
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To: Rutles4Ever

A good percentage of Western China is Muslim.......


20 posted on 01/20/2005 7:56:35 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: RSmithOpt

I understand that - but the average American - the ones who would be the so-called target for a borders-enforcement-advocate hoax - they associate the Chinese with communism, not terrorism. Most people think they're isolationists.

It doesn't make sense to make a bunch of CHINESE people the face of border enforcement....


21 posted on 01/20/2005 7:59:09 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever
They had pictures of the Chinese, I assume they are actual illegal immigrants, for a "bona fide".
22 posted on 01/20/2005 7:59:14 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: MizSterious; the gillman@blacklagoon.com
I figured the bigots would eventually get up the nerve to gang up and start following me around on threads.

So be it.

23 posted on 01/20/2005 8:01:12 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith

Follow you around? My, aren't you full of yourself! Don't give yourself so much credit--I saw your posts on this thread, checked out your posting history, and made my comment. That's hardly following you around.


24 posted on 01/20/2005 8:02:59 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: johnny7

Maybe they are looking for Ketchup Boy and can't find his palatial townhouse.


25 posted on 01/20/2005 8:04:35 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: mrsmith

When you murmer sweet sheep nothings at me, I worry about you following too close behind me.


26 posted on 01/20/2005 8:04:54 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
When you murmer sweet sheep nothings at me, I worry about you following too close behind me.

Them muslims like buggery, too.

27 posted on 01/20/2005 8:24:55 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Lazamataz

Bigot!

Or should I say buggerit?


28 posted on 01/20/2005 8:26:12 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Bigot!

I find it very amusing that mrsharia calls people bigots, yet one of his posts have him saying he is very ticked-off when people cannot see the difference between [legal] immigrants and Americans.

Isn't irony ironic?

29 posted on 01/20/2005 8:28:04 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: johnny7; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; Sanch; ...
SOMETHING HAPPENING IN FOUR DAYS? - ping.

(I just cancelled my press conference trip to meet with John Kerry and Ted Kennedy in Boston.)

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According to the source, the caller has not identified himself and did not show up for a meeting with federal investigators in California, but he did leave pictures and the names of two Chinese men and two Chinese women - reportedly chemists - at a ``drop'' site at the Mexico-California border.

The information also makes reference to something happening ``within four days,'' said another law enforcement source. Federal authorities in Boston identified the Chinese nationals being sought for questioning as Zengrong Lin, Wen Quin Zheng, Xiujin Chen and Guozhi Lin.Sources said investigators have no information on the two Iraqis - including their gender.

30 posted on 01/20/2005 8:32:55 AM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: Lazamataz

...Isn't irony ironic?...

Sometimes its downright ferrous.


32 posted on 01/20/2005 8:36:52 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: johnny7
“But after police(on a tip) converged on a Dunkin' Donuts near the Assembly Square Mall, the suspects were nowhere to be found. Somerville police said no arrests were made.”

This may or may not be a serious situation, but I could not help cracking up when I read that line. The visual was just too much like a Leslie Neilson movie.

33 posted on 01/20/2005 8:37:39 AM PST by demnomo
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To: johnny7
"But after police converged on a Dunkin' Donuts near the Assembly Square Mall..."

...the public had to wait a while for another batch of donuts to get done.

34 posted on 01/20/2005 8:37:41 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: johnny7
Sources said much of the man's information sounds far-fetched and investigators have some doubts about the caller's validity because he has not identified himself.

The caller, being a coyote, faces a 10-year federal prison term if he identifies himself and turns himself over to US law enforcement. Why would they possibly expect him to identify himself?

35 posted on 01/20/2005 8:43:18 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: eyespysomething

And his photo makes him look like a 13 yr old! I guess these folks are making Toddlers and Kids the next impending Terrorists. Next they will be looking for terrorists at the local elemntary schools.


36 posted on 01/20/2005 8:44:09 AM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: johnny7

BTTT


37 posted on 01/20/2005 8:44:10 AM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: mvpel
"The caller, being a coyote, faces a 10-year federal prison term if he identifies himself and turns himself over to US law enforcement."

If found to be true and a serious event is foiled, the tip to law enforcement should qualify that guy for amnesty - by far preceeding all those "guest workers".

38 posted on 01/20/2005 8:47:37 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Rutles4Ever

You assume that the Chinese are not already up to their ears in promoting terrorism via proxies. Not a safe assumption, IMO. I can see some very good reasons why China would support anti-US terror.


39 posted on 01/20/2005 8:51:45 AM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: johnny7

What if they were headed for the inauguration and the Boston story was just a red herring?


40 posted on 01/20/2005 8:52:54 AM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


41 posted on 01/20/2005 8:56:13 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Happy2BMe
Trust me... a Boston cabbie has a better chance of spotting these guys than Boston's police department or it's FBI office.

Look for a lot of spur-of-the-moment vacation requests.

42 posted on 01/20/2005 8:56:18 AM PST by johnny7
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According to the source, the caller has not identified himself and did not show up for a meeting with federal investigators in California, but he did leave pictures and the names of two Chinese men and two Chinese women - reportedly chemists - at a ``drop'' site at the Mexico-California border. The information also makes reference to something happening ``within four days,'' said another law enforcement source. Federal authorities in Boston identified the Chinese nationals being sought for questioning as Zengrong Lin, Wen Quin Zheng, Xiujin Chen and Guozhi Lin.Sources said investigators have no information on the two Iraqis - including their gender.

Time to snuff Chavez in Venezuela. He may have had nothing to do with this, but once those two Iraqis are identified, and arrested, we'll see whether they carry Venezuelan identity papers. If they do, Chavez should be removed by force if necessary, and his paramilitaries rounded up and imprisoned. If we need more space to confine them on GTMO, the rest of the island should soon be available. One way or the other.
43 posted on 01/20/2005 8:57:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on January 13, 2005)
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To: thoughtomator

1. Turn their muzzie problem into our muzzie problem in the hope that we clean it up for them. (Except for mrsmith, the whole world has a muzzie problem.)

2. Hoping that our cleanup of the muzzie problem will weaken us enough to help them take us out when they're ready to make their move.

I forget the name of that book written by their young Colonels, It's not unconventional warfare but similar to that.


44 posted on 01/20/2005 8:57:38 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Rutles4Ever
Why would they use people of Chinese descent as a ruse when most of them come here for political asylum, not terrorist activity?

Before they started blowing things up, the vast majority of Muslims from the Middle East came here for political asylum.

It would be very unwise to assume that someone of Chinese decent would not commit an act of terrorism in the United States.

45 posted on 01/20/2005 9:01:54 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Rutles4Ever

>>Why would they use people of Chinese descent<<

To the average American, Asians are much more non descriptive that the Muslims are.


46 posted on 01/20/2005 9:14:24 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: missyme

Would you suspect a 13 year old of any nationality who was walking up the street with a school backpack on as being a terrorist?


47 posted on 01/20/2005 9:19:56 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: missyme
Next they will be looking for terrorists at the local elemntary schools.

Beslan.

48 posted on 01/20/2005 9:23:56 AM PST by null and void (I don't know how I got over the hill without getting to the top...)
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To: B4Ranch

Not in our country Thank GOD!


49 posted on 01/20/2005 9:31:38 AM PST by missyme (imho)
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To: MizSterious

There are a lot of muslims in Mexico, too and a bunch of hispanic-American muslims. Do a google search to see how many mosques etc.


50 posted on 01/20/2005 10:13:05 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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