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Cheney voices concern that Israel may attack Iran
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 20 January 2005 | JPOST.COM STAFF

Posted on 01/20/2005 1:01:34 PM PST by anotherview

Jan. 20, 2005 22:25
Cheney voices concern that Israel may attack Iran
By JPOST.COM STAFF

Vice President Dick Cheney voiced concern Thursday that Israel may decide to act first against Iran to eliminate the possibility of a nuclear threat.

"If, in fact, the Israelis became convinced the Iranians had significant nuclear capability, given the fact that Iran has a stated policy that their objective is the destruction of Israel, the Israelis might well decide to act first, and let the rest of the world worry about cleaning up the diplomatic mess afterwards," Cheney said in an interview aired on MSNBC on the day that George W. Bush was sworn into office for his second term as president.

"You look around the world at potential trouble spots, Iran is right at the top of the list," Cheney said


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: axisofevil; cheney; dickcheney; iran; iraniannukes
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Is that concern or a hope?
1 posted on 01/20/2005 1:01:38 PM PST by anotherview
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To: anotherview

A diplomatic shot across the Iranian's bow.

"We don't know how long we can hold back the Israelis, so consider your options."


2 posted on 01/20/2005 1:04:52 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Mitchell; Shermy

ping


4 posted on 01/20/2005 1:05:29 PM PST by Allan
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To: anotherview

I think that is the ideal solution. The arabs/persians already hate the Israelis, so whats the harm.


5 posted on 01/20/2005 1:06:53 PM PST by demsux
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To: anotherview

There have been several quotes from Iranian officials who have said they will not stand by and wait for a first strike from Israel. This is one of those situations where if you're going to talk about it publicly, you better be prepared in case some Iranian official decides not to wait and see if your serious or not.


6 posted on 01/20/2005 1:06:58 PM PST by lawnguy (I Am NOT Charlotte Simmons.)
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To: anotherview
Old Cheney sure has a bucket of balls.

I'd say its more a plain statement and we (US)probably ain't gonna stop them.

BigMack
7 posted on 01/20/2005 1:07:04 PM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: Frank_Discussion

Either that or Cheney just threw Israel under the bus...


8 posted on 01/20/2005 1:07:44 PM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: anotherview

He said this on Imus show this morning. Nobody, but nobody, lays the political smack down like Cheney.


9 posted on 01/20/2005 1:08:47 PM PST by MattinNJ (I thought we were in the tree of compassion and the nest of understanding-Frank the Tank)
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To: lawnguy

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. "Sure, let Israel absorb the pre-emptive strike..."

Coming from the vice president, who has been known to make the rounds in that region when war is imminent, I don't think we can underestimate the gravity of that statement.


10 posted on 01/20/2005 1:09:38 PM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: Rutles4Ever

See post 7. Ditto.


11 posted on 01/20/2005 1:10:00 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: anotherview

Just as long as our guys don't shoot down the IAF over Iraq or Saudi Arabia,....


12 posted on 01/20/2005 1:12:13 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: steveegg

Damn! I want us to do it. I want 100 MOABs dropped in all their glorious beauty. Isreal can bomb after we do just to make their point.


13 posted on 01/20/2005 1:15:09 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: Rutles4Ever

this could actually be the "go signal" - this gives us deniability.


14 posted on 01/20/2005 1:15:44 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Frank_Discussion
This, coupled with the "purposeful leak" to Seymor Hersh of US Spec Ops in Iran looking for nuclear sites, is not just happenstance.

Add to the mix Bush's inauguration speech where he expressed US support for all people striving for freedom everywhere, (read dissidents and students against the mullahs in Iran)......

I can imagine that the mullahs skivies are in a bit of a knot.....they have been playing with fire aiding the insurgents in Iraq...and I believe that Bush will not let it go on much longer without acting.

15 posted on 01/20/2005 1:17:11 PM PST by HardStarboard (PASS)
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To: Frank_Discussion

Near-future statement from Cheney - "Now why did those Iranians have to turn on those SAM radars? Since those radars could target USAF aircraft over Iraq, we had no choice but to turn them off remotely with HARMs. It just so happened that the IAF was also in the area and benefited from this, but that's one of those flying deals."


16 posted on 01/20/2005 1:17:12 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: anotherview; yonif; SJackson

Israel has substantial military flexibility against a pre-emptive Iranian attack...especially with American ground forces bracketing Iran on the West and in the East (i.e. in Iraq and Afghanistan).

So there is no doubt that VP Cheney just raised the pucker factor in Tehran today.

...to which I say: OUTSTANDING!

17 posted on 01/20/2005 1:17:28 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: anotherview

IIRC, Iranian Officials have already declared that one of the uses to which they hope to put their nukes would be the destruction of Israel.


18 posted on 01/20/2005 1:17:35 PM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: anotherview
Not that there is anything wrong with that !! :o)
19 posted on 01/20/2005 1:17:48 PM PST by traumer
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To: anotherview
Well, it is inevitable that either (A) Iran will back down and stop pursuing nukes, (B) Israel will destroy their nuclear program, or (C) the US will destroy their nuclear program. Given that the UN will probably work on (A), I don't give that any chance of happening. Pick between (B) and (C).
20 posted on 01/20/2005 1:17:53 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: samadams2000

IAF = Israeli Air Force. Sorry about not being more clear.


21 posted on 01/20/2005 1:18:03 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: Frank_Discussion
A diplomatic shot across the Iranians' and the Europeans' bow.
22 posted on 01/20/2005 1:18:33 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: anotherview

Did everyone hear that? It was a very clear shot across the bow of Iran. That was loud and clear.


23 posted on 01/20/2005 1:18:34 PM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: anotherview

I WISH that Israel would act preemptively, to take care of Iran. Someone should.


24 posted on 01/20/2005 1:19:09 PM PST by Righter-than-Rush
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To: anotherview

Probably has something to do with the fact that the US sold Israel a couple of thousand bunker busting smart bombs barely three months ago. I doubt they are needed to stop Palestinian suicide bombers.


25 posted on 01/20/2005 1:19:10 PM PST by drt1
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To: HardStarboard; steveegg

I hope y'all are right.


26 posted on 01/20/2005 1:19:32 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: anotherview

Can you at least wait till the end of the INAGURATION... ?


27 posted on 01/20/2005 1:19:47 PM PST by traumer
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To: anotherview

Wink, wink,...nudge, nudge,... say no more, say no more


28 posted on 01/20/2005 1:20:01 PM PST by hang 'em (and while yer at it, do Qom, too)
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To: Southack

>>Cheney just raised the pucker factor>>

LOL!!! I am going to steal that term.


29 posted on 01/20/2005 1:20:25 PM PST by Righter-than-Rush
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To: Frank_Discussion

That's about the size of it.


30 posted on 01/20/2005 1:20:26 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: anotherview

"given the fact that Iran has a stated policy that their objective is the destruction of Israel,"

I'd say that covers any objections, good on Cheney.


31 posted on 01/20/2005 1:20:46 PM PST by crazycat
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To: anotherview

If the Israelis do attack Iran it will be a very short war (remember when they were attacked in the six day war). I am sure they know exactly where the Iranians Nuclear locations are and they won't be shy in destroying them. It should also be noted that we are pledged to support Israel not a good position for Iran.


32 posted on 01/20/2005 1:21:19 PM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: steveegg

I wonder how the Israelis woould plan such an attack.

When attacking the reactor in osirak, or what it was called, they just had to fly over Jordan for a hit a run

Now they would have to fly over Jordan and Iraq. I can imagine Johnny Iraqi would kick up serious shit about it.

What are Israelis capabilites for longer range missions anyone???


33 posted on 01/20/2005 1:21:38 PM PST by powderblue67
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To: traumer

ROFL!


34 posted on 01/20/2005 1:21:53 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: anotherview
I would guess that this statement was well thought-out and has a particular purpose of both putting Iran and the world on notice that action is imminent.

Such a statement is a natural follow-up to so much of what was said, however tacitly, in the President's inaugural address.

35 posted on 01/20/2005 1:22:02 PM PST by Dark Skies
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To: HardStarboard

They will be turbanated.


36 posted on 01/20/2005 1:22:30 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: anotherview
The Israelis do not have the capability to do this. I wish they did but it is up to us.
37 posted on 01/20/2005 1:25:09 PM PST by Marano NYC
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To: anotherview

If the Israelis do attack Iran it will be a very short war (remember when they were attacked in the six day war). I am sure they know exactly where the Iranians Nuclear locations are and they won't be shy in destroying them. It should also be noted that we are pledged to support Israel not a good position for Iran.


38 posted on 01/20/2005 1:27:04 PM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: anotherview

Actually a very clever statement by Cheney. He never says there would be consequences for such an Israeli act, just a "diplomatic mess". Lol! A clear warning to the euro-appeasers to get off the fence and take a hard line.


39 posted on 01/20/2005 1:27:42 PM PST by montag813
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To: gakrak

Sorry, I duped this reply.


40 posted on 01/20/2005 1:29:30 PM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Righter-than-Rush

>>Cheney just raised the pucker factor>>

LOL!!! I am going to steal that term.

The leaders over there have puckered so tight by now when they break wind only the dogs can hear it.


41 posted on 01/20/2005 1:30:14 PM PST by Abathar
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To: lawnguy

One nuke in Tel Aviv would be the end of the state of Israel.


42 posted on 01/20/2005 1:30:59 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: anotherview

Seems like a warning to Iran. We won't hold Israel back from hitting you, so get rid of your nukes.


44 posted on 01/20/2005 1:31:42 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: anotherview; biblewonk

Cool!


45 posted on 01/20/2005 1:33:13 PM PST by newgeezer (When encryption is outlawed, rwei qtjske ud alsx zkjwejruc.)
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To: anotherview
Is that concern or a hope?

Deja vu?

Israel prevented atomic disaster in 1981

Today on Ivry's [Ambassador to US in 91, head of IAF in 81] embassy office wall there is a large black-and-white photograph taken by satellite 10 years after the raid, at the time of the Gulf War. It shows the wreckage of the huge reactor complex, which is still surrounded by a high, thick wall that was supposed to protect it. Trees are growing where the reactor dome had been.

The picture has this handwritten inscription. ``For Gen. David Ivry, with thanks and appreciation for the outstanding job he did on the Iraqi nuclear program in 1981--which made our job much easier in Desert Storm." The author of the inscription signed it: ``Dick Cheney, Sec. of Defense 1989-93."

46 posted on 01/20/2005 1:34:27 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: powderblue67
What are Israelis capabilites for longer range missions anyone???

The IAF bombed the PLO when they were in Tunis, Tunisia. They have F-15Cs (the Israelis adapted them to the strike role, though they are rarely used for that), F-15Is (essentially the same as the F-15E Strike Eagle), F-16s of various blocks (up to and through Block 50/52), and 707 tanker aircraft, so they're well-suited for long-range strikes.

47 posted on 01/20/2005 1:34:57 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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I'm afraid that what is really going to happen is similar to Iraq. First a lot of useless U.N bickering about whether it's right or not. lot's of useless U.N. resolutions respectfully demanding they disarm, and just on the brink of full scale nuclear warfare, either us or the Isreali's will have to take action. I'm afraid that is really what may happen, not to deny that I would just love to wake up one morning, check Freep, and see that Iran is no longer even close to being a threat to anyone.


48 posted on 01/20/2005 1:35:19 PM PST by groovejedi
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To: anotherview

Shi'ite happens!


49 posted on 01/20/2005 1:36:06 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: powderblue67

That would be Boeing 707 tanker aircraft, not 707 planes :-)


50 posted on 01/20/2005 1:37:35 PM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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