Skip to comments.The End of Conservatives (A bitter paleoconservative has-been jumps the shark)
Posted on 01/22/2005 8:12:00 AM PST by quidnunc
I remember when friends would excitedly telephone to report that Rush Limbaugh or G. Gordon Liddy had just read one of my syndicated columns over the air. That was before I became a critic of the US invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration, and the neoconservative ideologues who have seized control of the US government.
America has blundered into a needless and dangerous war, and fully half of the country's population is enthusiastic. Many Christians think that war in the Middle East signals "end times" and that they are about to be wafted up to heaven. Many patriots think that, finally, America is standing up for itself and demonstrating its righteous might. Conservatives are taking out their Vietnam frustrations on Iraqis. Karl Rove is wrapping Bush in the protective cloak of war leader. The military-industrial complex is drooling over the profits of war. And neoconservatives are laying the groundwork for Israeli territorial expansion.
The evening before Thanksgiving Rush Limbaugh was on C-Span TV explaining that these glorious developments would have been impossible if talk radio and the conservative movement had not combined to break the power of the liberal media.
In the Thanksgiving issue of National Review, editor Richard Lowry and former editor John O'Sullivan celebrate Bush's reelection triumph over "a hostile press corps." "Try as they might," crowed O'Sullivan, "they couldn't put Kerry over the top." There was a time when I could rant about the "liberal media" with the best of them. But in recent years I have puzzled over the precise location of the "liberal media."
Who's Paul Craig Roberts?
Like Pat Buchanan, if he isn't an anti-Senmite, he'll do until one comes along.
I've never heard of such a "theology" from any Christian. Just like the left, Roberts takes a cheap shot to mock a wide swath of Evangelicals. Keep digging that hole, buddy.
He's a formerly-mainstream conservative economist and journalist who has decided to wallow in the fever swamps of paleocon crankery.
(Genuinely baffled Smiley.)
-good Thames, G.J.P.(Jr.)
He must have some French genes. French lesson:
#1 Don't take part in a fracas until you see which side is winning.
#2 Jump on the winning bandwagon.
#3 If you encounter any difficulty, adversity or setback...retreat.
#4 When you get wobbly........jump ship, change sides and cry uncle or call your mommy.
"Who's Paul Craig Roberts?"
I've been a Conservative for 40 years and I never heard of him. Maybe he's one of those odd briton/europeans who are called "conservative" but are unrecognizable by American standards.
Let's see what happens after all the arm waving stops and the dust settles.
Oh. Yeah, and the Gong sounds.
The "media" is full of wanna-be, would-be, has-been, losers that try to pass as real journalists. This is just another example of the decay in the MSM that has left us with cranks, losers, activists --- anything thing but informed, accomplished, respected journalists.
Only a few real journalists still survive. They are an endangered species.
"He was distinguished fellow at the Cato Institute from 1993 to 1996."
That's all you need to know about this guy.
That's his main claim to fame, and it's a good one.
Since then, however, he has drifted into some interesting precincts. Namely those inhabited by Buchanan and Sobran.
"Who's Paul Craig Roberts?"
He's got a daily column in The Washington Times. If you go to their web page you can check it out and see his picture. He's a strange looking fellow, that always put me off. His piece is always in the little box that also has the "inside the beltway" and "inside politics" gossipy columns.
I can never understand how come Jews in this country have been so strong in their support of dems.The libs would give the PLO all of Israel in a heartbeat.
That is why I get pained when I hear Pat go on with his isolationist rhetoric which is based on discontinuing our support of Israel.
If the US ever abandons Israel it will be our biggest foreign policy mistake ever.
Without Israel sitting where it does the mid east would long ago have been conquered by a Saddam,an ayatollah,Assad Sr.,Qaddafi etc.
Think of the result of an arab superpower controlling the main energy source of the world.Look at the islamofacist movement of today and multiply that by 100.
I don`t believe conservatives should cede the Jewish vote to the dems or to endorse those on the right that want us to abandon them.It may not fit perfectly into some conservatives template but it is a pragmatic view of the world that exists today.
It must be true. 5% of all participants in any large human endeavor are very highly educated --- and certifiable.
Bigger than bombing the serbians into oblivion for the benefit of muslim terrorists?
Whoever he is, he's so wrong here that it is understandable to mistake him for a Democrat. I think we've had enough of the Ostritch strategy for one war.
I knew who Paul Craig Roberts was, but if he is opposed to the U.S. liberation of Iraq, that means that his only default position is that he would prefer to see Saddam still in power.
I submit that 25 million Iraqis would be happy to kick Roberts ignorant azz until he sees the light.
Until then, he remains an embittered has-been.
He was once a good supply side economist.
What a moron, Israel is retreating from the Gaza. What expansion is this idiot talking about?
I think he overstates his case in the article but some reactions on this thread to Mr. Roberts' words do confirm some of the blind Bush zealotry posing as loyalty about which Mr. Roberts warns.
As I have said before, I don't even agree with my own mother on everything and I love her. Bush certainly isn't my mother.
People are not certifiably crazy just because they tell you things you don't want to hear or believe. That kind of reaction is closer to the beliefs of the Taliban than to those of our founding fathers.
A favorite antic of the hate-Bush crowd appears to be "I am a former conservative", since they realized how powerful Zell Miller and some other former Democrats' message have become.
Regarding Buchanan and his fellow Jew-haters, we have one on the radio here in Baltimore who appears to be conservative except for his support for Sadaam and opposition to Israel. He brings Buchanan on his radio show whenever possible to help him bash-Bush and especially Rumsfeld.
So he worked for The Immortal, Ronaldus Magnus about 1/2 as long as I did.
My question: "What is Outlook-India-Dot-Com, and why is Dr. Paul Craig Roberts now writing for them instead of the Wall Street Journal or the National Review???"
Honest question: Who's Paul Craig Roberts?
Outlook just picked his syndicated column off the Znet wire.
One indication of why Roberts isn't writing for the WSJ and National Review is that Dennis (call me 'Justin') Raimindo runs his columns on Antiwar.com.
I would say yes,but not by a lot.Your point is valid and well taken.
Should also include the Clinton/Carter fraud of North Korea.That may be the biggest that has been made.Gets hard to qualify after a while.
Dennis (call me 'Justin') Raimondo thinks Roberts is worth reading too, since his column is carried on Antiwar.com.
Justin Raimondo thinks Roberts is worth reading too ---
Is that your way of whispering that Paul Craig Roberts is an antisemite?
He has an odd way of showing it, if he is.
After all, he just offered to take in 5,000,000 Israeli Jews en masse. Westbrook Pegler, a real antisemite, would have had a coronary.
If Roberts were the antisemite you seem to be trying to insinuate he is by association (with other real or imagined antisemites -- Bill Buckley found Sobran guilty of antisemitism and banished him from National Review, but the jury is still out on Buchanan: you can't fault him for disagreeing with AIPAC's agenda if he wants to), he would be quite enthusiastic about our supplying Israel with (some) weaponry, in hopes that they would then fight it out with (in round numbers) 1,000,000,000 Moslems, to the last man. The last of one or the other, anyway. Because they're all Semites -- both Arabs and Israelis.
I think you need another theory.
That Roberts has tipped at least a half bubble off center.
Or perhaps you think that Dennis (call me 'Justin') Raimondo is a true conservativce too?
The Cato Institute occasionally comes up with something good, but it is all the crap the comes out normally that puts me right off reading anything they send out.
No more than the paleopinkiepoo pantywaists are reprising their role models in the anti-Vietnam War movement. Roberts, et al., get their ideological talking points and orders from Justin Raimondo, the antiSemitic lavender queen of antiwar.com. (Don't take my word for it. Check out Justine's website yourself) What do we expect?
To paraphrase another line in this thread. GW may not be a "real" conservative, but he will do until a "real" one comes along.
Was he the currency-board monetary policy guy who used to write for "Forbes," or is that some other guy?
I don't recall ever hearing that he wrote for Forbes and I can't find any evidence that he did via Google.
They may pose as paleo-ostriches but they are going to be the only "liberal" talk radio for the foreseeable future. What a waste of bandwidth!
Paleos=Antisemitic peace creeps with stock portfolios to protect and who wish the GOP and conservative movements to exclude all whose ancestry here is less than two hundred years.
Paul Craig Roberts must be one of about three of the paleos who could get credentialled in the Reagan administration. The rest were too socially eccentric or too closely resembled the look of a vintage Trotskite (before he was purged) to be ready for prime time.
Reagan knew better than to associate with the paleos generally. In 1986, they figured it out and have been hydrochloric or sulphuric toward conservatism ever since.
Antisemitism is not the only problem. One of their columnists, Sam Francis, was fired by the Washington Times when he spoke to a convention of neo-Nazis but them he was hired to edit the newspaper of the "Conservative" Citizens' Councils, as that group has been known since moving from Mississippi to Missouri and changing the name from White Citizens' Councils (the blow-dried Klan).
Thanks. I guess I'm thinking of someone totally different.
It was also worth noting the opinions of Kerry, McGovern, the Arkansas Antichrist, Mrs. Antichrist and others of their ilk to prevent their getting their slimy traitorous heads above water again. A good start in that direction would be to pay attention to Justine the AntiWar Queen (antiwar.com) before he/she/it ruins another public figure like he/she/it ruined Buchanan on foreign policy and defense. Justine sees a field of dead soldiers as so many lost social opportunities. Conservatives should know their enemies. Justine is one. Roberts is another.
PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
Paul Craig Roberts is the John M. Olin fellow at the Institute for Political Economy, research fellow at the Independent Institute and senior research fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University.
A former editor and columnist for The Wall Street Journal, he writes a political commentary column for Creators Syndicate. He also writes a monthly economics column for Investors Business Daily . In 1992, he received the Warren Brookes Award for Excellence in Journalism.
In 1993, he was ranked as one of the top seven journalists by the Forbes Media Guide .
He was distinguished fellow at the Cato Institute from 1993 to 1996. From 1982 through 1993, he held the William E. Simon chair in political economy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. From 1981 to 1982, he served as assistant secretary of the Treasury for economic policy.
President Reagan and Treasury Secretary Regan credited him with a major role in the Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981, and he was awarded the Treasury Department's Meritorious Service Award for "his outstanding contributions to the formulation of United States economic policy."
By your enemy shall you be known.
Anyone with three names is always suspect:
John Wilkes Booth
Hilary Rodham Clinton
John Walker Lynde
Teresa Heinz Kerry
John Forbes Kerry
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Paul Craig Roberts
See the pattern?
Thank you. I was just mentioning this to Moose4...I grew up going to a fundamentalist church with a noticeable "end times" obsession (twice-yearly "prophecy conferences" with 30-foot charts tacked up on the wall), and I can guarantee you that none of the Christians there would have reacted with glee to all-out war in the Middle East.
Reagan made Buchanan his second term director of communications.
Have you ever read worldnetdaily.com ?
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