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Mexico's Undeclared War on America
Toronto Free Press ^ | 01/22/2005 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 01/22/2005 9:09:14 AM PST by Marine Inspector

If a foreign country was sending more than a million of its people to illegally enter the United States every year surely that would be grounds for war. Mexico is doing that. It is no stretch of imagination to say that Mexico in engaged in an undeclared war on the United States of America.

U.S. Border Patrol Agents, according to a January 10 article in the Washington Times, "apprehended 1.15 million illegal aliens last year trying to sneak into the United States between the nation’s land ports of entry, more than 3,100 a day--a 24 percent increase over the year before." Among them, 23,000 people with criminal records were identified and arrested. They included 84 murder suspects, 37 suspected kidnappers, 151 who were wanted on charges of sexual assault, 313 robbery suspects, and 2,630 others implicated in drug-related charges.

"There were 8,577 drug seizures that confiscated 1.4 million pounds of illegal narcotics with an estimated street value of $1.62 billion," according to the Times article by Jerry Seper. In all, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency’s inspectors and officers processed 428 million passengers and pedestrians, including 262 million aliens, "denying entry to more than 643,000 aliens under U.S. law." They were in addition to those trying to steal across the border illegally.

All this was happening as the Mexican Foreign Ministry was publishing "The Guide for the Mexican Immigrant." It is a guide on how to enter the U.S. illegally. It is an act of war. It is part of a long-term plan to flood the U.S., particularly California and the Southwest, with illegal Mexicans in the belief that, once again, the U.S. will grant amnesty to them, thus putting into motion yet another human wave to follow. There must be no amnesty.

President Bush doesn’t see it that way. He calls illegal Mexican aliens "undocumented workers." That is just pure sophistry. It’s spin. He calls the flood of illegal Mexicans "a problem", but it is much more than that. It is an undeclared act of war.

We have fought wars with Mexico in the past. Indeed, Mexico had invited Americans to settle Texas after it had won independence from Spain. In 1836, after the Alamo was overrun, the Battle of San Jacinto resulted in Texas becoming an independent republic. By 1845, the US had annexed Texas. This was followed by the Mexican-American war in 1846-7. By September 14, 1847, our Marines were in Mexico City and we are still singing about the Halls of Montezuma. The Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ended the war with the annexation of the Oregon Territory and much of the Southwest, i.e., California, New Mexico, Nevada, and Utah. The U.S. paid Mexico $15 million for the land acquired. The U.S. paid additional millions for the Gadsden Purchase of land that now comprises a part of Arizona.

Today, the oligarchy ruling Mexico has hit upon a plan to not only regain its former territory by a de facto form of demographics, deliberately re-populating those States with Mexican citizens and seeking a series of amnesties to confer citizenship that by-passes the normal process, but it is also seeking to suck still more money out of the U.S. with an audacious plan to raid Social Security. It’s not enough that the second largest amount of money Mexico "earns" comes from funds sent home by illegal aliens estimated to number between eight and ten million.

Writing in a recent issue of The American Enterprise, Marti Dinerstein, a fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies, noted that Social Security arrangements between nations are intended to prevent dual taxation of employees who work temporarily in another country and the employers who send them. The second objective is to guarantee an old-age pension for workers who end up paying into the Social Security systems of two countries, but earn insufficient credits to qualify for retirement from either of them alone.

Twenty nations, Mexico included, have Social Security reciprocity agreements with the U.S. Eight of them have so few of these legal, temporary workers that the U.S. Census Bureau doesn’t even keep track. "By 2000, there were an estimated 9.2 million Mexicans living and working in the US."

I have concluded that no branch of the U.S. government has any realistic idea of how many illegal Mexicans are in the country. One thing’s for sure, though, the Social Security pact currently making its way through Congress, as Dinerstein notes, provides no parity between the U.S. and Mexico which accounts for an estimated 69 percent of all illegal aliens in the nation! The pact would be a windfall calculated in millions of dollars for Mexico.

Advocates of "open borders" want the U.S. to sign this Social Security agreement with Mexico and the Bush administration is claiming only 50,000 Mexicans would qualify for it. That figure is bogus. Rep. Rohrabacher says simply enough, "We are talking about huge sums of money--not just for retirement, but for disability payments, premature deaths, caring for the families of illegal immigrants", adding that "it is an outrageous violation of our obligation to watch out for senior citizens of the United States."

Wisely, he calls for "a law specifically banning work by illegal aliens from qualifying for Social Security." Indeed, he has a bill--HR 1631--to prohibit the work histories of non-citizens who are here illegally from being counted toward Social Security earnings." If HR 1631 doesn’t become law, millions of illegal aliens, if yet another amnesty is granted, will become part of the Social Security system because all the time they worked here illegally will be credited to their accounts.

Mexico, in collusion with the Bush administration, is maneuvering to suck Social Security funds across the border for millions of their citizens who are currently here illegally. This is the same administration that is telling us that we must "fix" the Social Security system to protect future generations of Americans.

I can’t tell you exactly when the second Mexican-American War began, but I can tell you it is going on right now.

The National Anxiety Center maintains an Internet site at www.anxietycenter.com. Caruba writes a weekly column, "Warning Signs", posted on the site and excerpted widely on many others. In 2003, a collection of his columns was published by Merril Press.


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1 posted on 01/22/2005 9:09:16 AM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: gubamyster

Ping.


2 posted on 01/22/2005 9:10:21 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector

So all you have to do to get out of the Social Security Ponzi scheme is to be here illegally?


3 posted on 01/22/2005 9:11:49 AM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: Marine Inspector
Maybe we need to drop an undeclared MOAB on Mexico City.

Or whatever hell-hole serves as the capital of that ...did I already say hell-hole?

4 posted on 01/22/2005 9:14:43 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Marine Inspector

How would an illegal prove how long they've been here, and how long they've worked? They would have no legal records to offer.


5 posted on 01/22/2005 9:17:08 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: monkeywrench
How would an illegal prove how long they've been here, and how long they've worked?

Pay stubs, utility bills, ect in his or her name.

6 posted on 01/22/2005 9:18:55 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector

Thats right mexico has declared war on America and President Bush needs to fight it.


7 posted on 01/22/2005 9:19:15 AM PST by stopem
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To: Texas Eagle

And thats what they want America to become isnt it?

Its a war folks!!


8 posted on 01/22/2005 9:20:21 AM PST by stopem
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To: Marine Inspector
Great web page.

Bookmarked.

Thanks




Plagiarism at it's finest! ;)

9 posted on 01/22/2005 9:21:49 AM PST by G.Mason ("and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf.")
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To: thoughtomator

The US policy is to unoffically give up and play dead. We need to create corridors so Illegals can go straight to canada where they will be welcomed, and receive free health care.


10 posted on 01/22/2005 9:24:10 AM PST by Podkayne (What's obvious to the casual observer is invisible to the main street media)
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To: Marine Inspector
How about just sending all the leftists that wanted to immigrate after the inaugural to Mexico. Sounds like a fair swap illegal worker for leftist pinko.
Nice article...
11 posted on 01/22/2005 9:27:26 AM PST by sulla07
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To: G.Mason
Plagiarism at it's finest! ;)

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12 posted on 01/22/2005 9:27:38 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


13 posted on 01/22/2005 9:28:44 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Marine Inspector

"Paystubs, utility bils," resident college tuition reciept.


14 posted on 01/22/2005 9:31:11 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: Marine Inspector
" ?????"

Look at the tag line. ;)

15 posted on 01/22/2005 9:34:30 AM PST by G.Mason ("and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf.")
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To: Marine Inspector
Americans Vanish In Mexican Town Drug Cartels Competing Along Border Suspected in Increased Kidnappings

The border seems to be firming up - discouraging people from going south.

Coming north? No problema!

16 posted on 01/22/2005 9:34:58 AM PST by P.O.E. (FReeping - even better than flossing.)
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To: thoughtomator

ping


17 posted on 01/22/2005 9:35:02 AM PST by pointsal
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To: stopem
It's a one way war for the time being. Sadly, IMHO it is going to take an event 10 times the destruction of 911 to change the situation and cause the U.S. to wage total war on the enemy....whoever and wherever they are. It is clear that 3000 dead is not enough mayhem to cause our congress to make a declaration of war.

I think it is generally accepted that the next attack on America will be perpertrated by some group that crosses the American border...most likely from Mexico. So...it just makes sense to me that is where we make a stand to stop illegals from coming in to our country. I don't think it would take much either. A high fence with signs that state clearly that anyone breaching that fence will be shot. Liberals clearly won't like the fence nor the signs, but our present enemy has promised to kill all Americans, and did not exclude liberals.

18 posted on 01/22/2005 9:35:53 AM PST by B.O. Plenty
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To: Podkayne

Good idea! Canada has plenty of space for a couple dozen million Mexicans.


19 posted on 01/22/2005 9:37:16 AM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: Marine Inspector
I'm betting that if the planned social security reciprocity were to come about there'd be a whole bunch of 125 year old ex-illegals retired underground in mexico.
20 posted on 01/22/2005 9:40:33 AM PST by norton
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To: bayourod

PING!! Over here! (You'd better take a Valium first!) LOL!! Ha ha!!


21 posted on 01/22/2005 9:47:35 AM PST by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: G.Mason

Ahhh, gotcha.

LOL


22 posted on 01/22/2005 9:49:28 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: sulla07

I agree.


23 posted on 01/22/2005 9:50:04 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Cold Heart

That works too, unfortunately.


24 posted on 01/22/2005 9:51:14 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: norton

Most likely.


25 posted on 01/22/2005 9:51:49 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector

>>"By 2000, there were an estimated 9.2 million Mexicans living and working in the US."<<

Now we have 20 million illegal Mexicans living and working in the US. We are losing the war thanks to our Republican President.


26 posted on 01/22/2005 10:05:14 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Marine Inspector
It may be an undeclared war and if it is; it's being run by ignorant generals. Mexico is being set up to be declared a defacto territory subject to taxation/governing by U.S. Federals to keep those funds somewhat in play within the jurisdiction they came from.
What say?
27 posted on 01/22/2005 10:08:59 AM PST by Dust in the Wind (I've got peace like a river . . .)
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To: monkeywrench
How would an illegal prove how long they've been here, and how long they've worked? They would have no legal records to offer.

the same way they did last time around forged documents..and liberal court cases..

28 posted on 01/22/2005 10:13:30 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Dust in the Wind

When I first read your article I thought that the ignorant generals you were talking about were on our side, but when I got into the point about Mexico being declared a de facto territory of the U.S. I got a little confused. Who are the ignorant generals that you are talking about?

If they are on our side then I certainly agree.

If they are on the other side it brings up a point of view that I hadn't thought of before and could either be brilliant rope-a-dope or a huge miscalculation.


29 posted on 01/22/2005 10:25:30 AM PST by Warhammer (I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.)
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To: B.O. Plenty
A fence along the entire Mexican border would be too expensive and would accomplish nothing. People who are determined to cross would cut holes in the fence or dig underneath it. If we had the border patrol agents available to shoot anyone coming across, we would have the agents available to arrest them now. Other ideas that have been often stated would have more value. They include the following.

We need to stop payment of all entitlements to people who are in this country illegally. If poor people think that they can receive free stuff somewhere, no barrier will keep them from going there. On the other hand, if they can't receive free stuff, then they have less reason to try. Stopping the payment of entitlements should include all education benefits and medical care.

We need to punish companies that hire illegal aliens. Again, I don't blame poor people for going where they will find work. I do blame those who hire illegal aliens and provide a motive for poor people to break our laws. If the risk of being caught were greater than the profit from hiring illegals, then companies wouldn't contribute to the problem by doing so.

We need to stop shielding people from the natural consequences of trying to break our laws. If someone tries to cross the desert illegally and dies of thirst, his death is his own fault. I can understand his motive for crossing that desert, but we shouldn't try to protect people from the natural barriers that protect this country.

We need to allow reasonable commerce between small communities along the border. There are small towns on the border that have carried on cross-border trade for years because the desert has isolated them from the "outside world" in either country. Modern transportation has lessened this isolation, but these towns still have symbiotic relationships that cross the border. We should shut the border to those who want to come into the rest of America illegally, but we should create legal means for people to carry on traditional relationships with those who live 200 yards away. Cutting off this trade only gives the people on the Mexican side more incentive to go further into America finding work when their towns can't survive.

Bill

30 posted on 01/22/2005 10:25:41 AM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: B4Ranch
We are losing the war thanks to our Republican President.

He gets part of the blame, but Congress gets most of the blame.

31 posted on 01/22/2005 10:26:07 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Dust in the Wind

I doubt that will ever happen.


32 posted on 01/22/2005 10:26:47 AM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: B.O. Plenty

Two fences, 250 yards apart, with antipersonnel mines between them. Mexico-side fence clearly marked with signs in English and Spainish that the zone between the fences is mined and those that wish to cross will probably die. Fences to be topped with concertina wire.

I say mines because we would not need as many people manning the border (mines don't sleep or get distracted), but put guards every so often in case the mines get avoided somehow.


33 posted on 01/22/2005 10:29:14 AM PST by Warhammer (I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.)
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To: Cold Heart; Marine Inspector

>>"Paystubs, utility bils," resident college tuition reciept.<<

And my Mom and Dad with my sisters were here too!

Si Senor, they will get benefits too. No problemo, mi Amigo.

I work for US government against Americanos, not for them! I fight for Reconquista Movimiento
Estudiantil Chicano de Azatlan.

Mariachi Varga, Herb Albert and El Presidente Bush make me dance and drink tequila to party for victory.

Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo is all lies. El Presidente Bush know that and he fight for Mexico. MEChA become strong everyday. We must help Mexicanos get colleges money free to win.


34 posted on 01/22/2005 10:34:54 AM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Warhammer
Ignorant generals being those with the means to build their countries and provide jobs/education for their working classes. They are on all sides but here we are speaking of U.S./Mexico.

'All' (It's obviously more involved) it would take to bring another territory into subjugation is to declare all payments cease until taxes are paid and regulations are met. Much like each individual state is done now.

Do I think the corrupt people in charge care to emulate those they send their unwanted too? Not as long as they see their crime as a paying entity.

35 posted on 01/22/2005 10:40:36 AM PST by Dust in the Wind (I've got peace like a river . . .)
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To: Warhammer
Captured illegals could be put in chain gangs to build whatever barrier applies (according to the terrain) - gorges, fences, etc.

First time they get caught, they work for a year -- wouldn't take too long to complete.

36 posted on 01/22/2005 10:47:41 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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To: WFTR
A fence along the entire Mexican border would be too expensive and would accomplish nothing

The one in California south of San Diego works just fine and is probably responsible for the increase in traffic in Arizona and New Mexico.

The cost for the entire border to be so fenced would probably be less than the cost for a month or two of the Iraqi war, and would once and for all establish that this is our country, not Mexico.

Having said that, there are plenty of other methods that work. But Israel and the U.S. have found that good fences do indeed work.

37 posted on 01/22/2005 12:15:06 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Dust in the Wind
Mexico is being set up to be declared a defacto territory subject to taxation/governing by U.S.

No way would the elites pay taxes --- they would take their wealth to Europe --- where much of it already is. Mexico just raised it's minimum wage to the equivalent of $4.15 a day --- which is lower than it was a couple of years ago when they raised it to the equivalent of $4.35 a day (inflation I guess) --- even the middle class Mexicans are lucky if they make $1 or $2 an hour. A doctor in Mexico is lucky if he makes what a nurse here makes. Just about everyone would qualifty for many welfare programs and the EITC --- so we're not going to collect many taxes. Also --- the Mexican government is planning a way to collect taxes on the income it's illegal citizens are making in the USA --- it would condemn the USA however if it tried to tax that money flowing out.

38 posted on 01/22/2005 12:23:04 PM PST by FITZ
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To: sulla07
How about just sending all the leftists that wanted to immigrate after the inaugural to Mexico.

But the leftists wanted to go to Canada -- not Mexico. I wonder why --- Mexico is exactly the kind of country leftists make --- very socialized, high rates of union membership, labor unions very entertwined with the government.

39 posted on 01/22/2005 12:26:55 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Marine Inspector

good one!!!


40 posted on 01/22/2005 12:30:44 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Regulator
The one in California south of San Diego works just fine and is probably responsible for the increase in traffic in Arizona and New Mexico.

I can see where fences along some parts of the border would have a purpose. I still see no benefit to fencing the entire border. If we'd enact the right policies, we wouldn't need a fence along the entire border. If we don't enact the right policies, a fence along the entire border won't do any good.

Having said that, there are plenty of other methods that work. But Israel and the U.S. have found that good fences do indeed work.

Israel is about the size of New Jersey. I don't know the exact numbers, but I'd guess that the border between the United States and Mexico is at least hundreds and maybe a thousand or more times longer than the entire border around Israel. What works on one scale isn't necessarily going to work on another scale. Good fences will work in some places. They will not work along an entire border of that length.

Bill

41 posted on 01/22/2005 12:39:21 PM PST by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: Marine Inspector; mindspy; mysto; holyscroller; ozarkgirl; Outland; Rick Deckard; ...

Thanks for the post,MI.

”Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” Dr. Martin Luther King

Let your congresspeople know what you know. Things like Mexico having more millionaire/billionaires than Saudi Arabia and YET they expect the US to care for thier outcasts while these illegals send $38 billion back to Mexico each year.


42 posted on 01/22/2005 1:20:35 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (When conservatives break their principles they seem to become casual about breaking the law, too.)
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To: Marine Inspector

We already know that.


43 posted on 01/22/2005 1:21:30 PM PST by hershey
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To: norton; All

"I'm betting that if the planned social security reciprocity were to come about there'd be a whole bunch of 125 year old ex-illegals retired underground in mexico."

Where to begin? The GAO in a Sept report states that the SSA paid out over a billion dollars to unqualified disability recipients, yet many who qualify wait for 4 or 5 years for approval. This is the agency that will calculate who in Mexico gets benefits? The SSA , like most government agencies is dysfunctional.




ONE ILLEGAL COULD COST U.S. TAXPAYERS ONE-HALF MILLION BUCKS

"If a 24-year-old Mexican national who has worked illegally in the U.S. for three years is able to present documents from a friendly doctor and either a W-2 or pay stubs that indicate $12,000 in annual earnings, he will be eligible for the following: nearly $8,000 per year in disability income (adjusted for inflation), until age 65, at which point he would receive the same amount as retirement pay. (If he manages to get an under-the-table job in the U.S. or Mexico, he will be able to double-dip for a second income stream.) If he is survived by his wife or dependents, his family would be able to receive up to almost $12,000 annually. If he dies at 60, and his widow lives to 85, U.S. taxpayers will be on the hook for nearly a half-million dollars. That’s for one worker brought into Social Security by the pact." Source: Joel Mowbray, National Review, 1/27/03, pp. 22, 24


162,000 MEXICAN BENEFICIARIES?

" ‘We are concerned about the sheer magnitude of the agreement,’ said a House Republican aide who is an expert on Social Security. About 94,000 beneficiaries living abroad have been brought into the system by the 20 existing international agreements. A Mexican agreement alone could bring in 162,000 in the first five years." Source: Jonathan Weisman, Washington Post, 12/19/02, p. A1


44 posted on 01/22/2005 1:28:24 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (When conservatives break their principles they seem to become casual about breaking the law, too.)
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To: Marine Inspector

Check out what Chuck Hagel is trying to pull. His bill is endorsed by MALDEF.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1326171/posts


45 posted on 01/22/2005 1:31:15 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (When conservatives break their principles they seem to become casual about breaking the law, too.)
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To: jeremiah; varon; DoughtyOne; WmDonovan; Semaphore Heathcliffe; Endeavor; badbass; t-1000; ...



http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20040107.shtml

The criminal raid on Social Security
Michelle Malkin
January 7, 2004

My 8-week-old son's Social Security card recently arrived in the mail. On the back, there's a stern warning: "Improper use of this card or number by anyone is punishable by fine, imprisonment or both."

Welcome to the world of government theft and selective enforcement, my boy.

While innocent babes who have yet to earn a penny are threatened with jail time for misusing Social Security cards, the Bush administration appears set this week to turn the ailing government pension program into an international relief fund for illegal alien workers who used counterfeit Social Security cards and stolen numbers to secure illegal jobs.

Unlike the bedtime stories I tell at night, I am not making this up.

This belated gift to the open-borders lobby and Mexican President Vicente Fox is part of a larger amnesty plan that has been in the works since before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. So, why exactly are we rewarding a country that has been obstinately opposed to the War on Terror? Go ask Mr. Brilliant, Karl Rove. This I do know: It couldn't have come at a worse time from either a fiscal or national security standpoint.

According to Rep. Clay Shaw, R-Fla., chairman of the House Ways and Means subcommittee on Social Security, benefits paid to retirees will exceed revenues in just 15 years. The pay-as-you-go system could go belly up as early as 2030. These projections don't take into account the economic impact of the Bush proposal, which would allow untold millions of illegal aliens from Mexico to collect full cash benefits for themselves and their families from their home country -- without having to work the required number of years that law-abiding American citizens must work to be eligible for payouts.

Reporter Joel Mowbray, who first exposed this treachery a year ago, noted that this raw deal may well cost overburdened U.S. taxpayers $345 billion over the next 20 years. Probably much more. As we know from experience, Social Security projections are notoriously off the mark.

The bureaucrats call this scheme "totalization." Try total prostration. The proposed agreement is nothing more than a transfer of wealth from those who play by the rules to those who willingly and knowingly mock our own immigration and tax laws. What are we doing promising lifetime Social Security paychecks to day laborers in Juarez when we can't even guarantee those benefits to workers here at home?

Unbelievably, the White House is trying to convince us to embrace this global ripoff because it "rewards work." No, it rewards criminal behavior. The plan will siphon off the hard-earned tax dollars of American workers who may never see a dime of their confiscated earnings and fork it over to foreigners guilty of at least four acts of federal law-breaking: crossing the border illegally, working illegally, engaging in tax fraud and using bogus documents.

Giving money to scam artists will simply result in more fraud -- not only by Mexican agricultural workers, but also by Middle Easterners such as Youssef Hmimssa, who provided fake Social Security numbers and fraudulent drivers' licenses to members of an accused terrorist cell in Detroit. "If you have the right connection, you can get anything," he testified before the Senate last fall.

The door is now open for all illegal aliens to collect retirement benefits using bogus Social Security cards. What's next: survivors' benefits for the families of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers?


46 posted on 01/22/2005 1:48:28 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (When conservatives break their principles they seem to become casual about breaking the law, too.)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

Just more Globaloney.

Social Security is projected to go upside down in the not too distant future, as it is. Now this.

The American cash cow 'currently known as middle-class dupes' are getting restless.

Couple this fiasco with the Medicare medication add-on, and we're talking open warfare on the middle class. But then, what is Amnesty Amnesia, if not that?


47 posted on 01/22/2005 1:58:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: thoughtomator

Its our politicians that are selling us out, the Mexicans are just launching an invasion.


48 posted on 01/22/2005 3:21:23 PM PST by junta (junta, "is one uppity cracker")
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To: dennisw

I thought so.

Thanks.


49 posted on 01/22/2005 3:38:45 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

I've seen his bill; it sucks like the rest of them.


50 posted on 01/22/2005 3:44:40 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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