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Abortion issue brings out protesters
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 1/23/5 | Cicero A. Estrella and Henry K. Lee

Posted on 01/22/2005 11:48:38 PM PST by SmithL

2 sides mark anniversary of Roe v. Wade with marches in S.F.

Thousands of protesters on both sides of the abortion issue clashed in San Francisco in rival demonstrations Saturday, the 32nd anniversary of Roe vs. Wade, the Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion.

In dueling marches, about 6,000 antiabortion activists in the Walk for Life West Coast were jeered and harangued by about 3,000 advocates for abortion rights, some waving wire hangers.

Walk for Life organizers Dolores Meehan and Eva Muntean said they knew holding an antiabortion rally in the liberal bastion of San Francisco would certainly spark outrage. But doing so would draw the greatest exposure, Meehan said.

"We're trying to change hearts and minds," Meehan said. "We needed to go where people's points of view are a little bit different than ours. If we did this in Indiana, it would be interesting, but it would not have nearly the impact."

Organizers of the dueling protests had divergent strategies. The antiabortion group specifically avoided confronting their opponents, while the pro-choice contingent that lined the Embarcadero berated the larger group with insults and accused them of bringing in people from out of town to bolster their cause.

Two people with the pro-choice group were arrested for assault on a police officer, said police Capt. Denis O'Leary, who estimated the size of the two crowds. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortionismean; life; march; marchforlife; sf

A regional anti-abortion event -- the Walk for Life West Coast -- walks along the Embarcadero in San Francisco Saturday.


Abortion-rights supporters make their way to San Francisco's Embarcadero to confront abortion opponents taking part in the Walk for Life West Coast.


An abortion rights supporter was arrested by police after her group forced the anti-abortion Walk for Life West Coast to divert their route.


Sally Winn, VP of Feminists for Life of America, speaks at Justin Herman Plaza.

1 posted on 01/22/2005 11:48:39 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
An abortion rights supporter was arrested by police after her group forced the anti-abortion Walk for Life West Coast to divert their route.

Hmmmm ... will they be facing a possible 47 years in jail ??

Some how I doubt it

2 posted on 01/22/2005 11:53:35 PM PST by Mo1 (Liberty will come to those who love it)
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To: everyone

Good turnout for San Francisco. Kudos to these courageous people.

California haters on the fringes of FReep, take note.


3 posted on 01/22/2005 11:56:31 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: Mo1

We went to the pro-life service in our city today. Beautiful and very encouraging.

A speaker gave out stats that were very encouraging concerning the decline in providers and if I am correct, even the number performed. Wish I could remember.

At any rate all of us are making a difference.


4 posted on 01/23/2005 12:00:32 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: SmithL
In dueling marches, about 6,000 antiabortion activists in the Walk for Life West Coast were jeered and harangued by about 3,000 advocates for abortion rights, some waving wire hangers.

NO WIRE HANGERS!

5 posted on 01/23/2005 12:56:30 AM PST by Clemenza (Europhiles and Monarchists should be purged)
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To: SmithL

"She" looks like Eminem in a sports bra.

This war of death is not political, or "sad" or culturally divisive. It is Good versus Evil in its starkest and plainest form.

One of the most tragic and saddest commentaries on abortion I ever read was this: How Lying Marketers sold Roe v. Wade to America.

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" "Saline abortions have to be done in the hospital because of complications that can arise," says OB/GYN staffer Debra Henry. "Not that they can't arise during other times, but more so now. The saline, a salt solution, is injected into the woman's sac and the baby swallows it. The baby starts dying a slow, violent death. The mother feels everything, and many times it is at this point when she realizes that she really has a live baby inside of her, because the baby starts fighting violently for his or her life. He's just fighting inside because he's burning.

"One night a lady delivered and I was called to come and see her because she was uncontrollable," says David Brewer, M.D., of Glen Ellyn, Ill. As a military physician in Ft. Rucher, Ala., Brewer performed abortions for 10 years. "I went in the room, and she was going to pieces; she was having a nervous breakdown, screaming and thrashing. The nurses were upset because they couldn't get any work done, and all the other patients were upset because this lady was screaming. I walked in, and here was her little saline abortion baby kicking. It had been born alive, and was kicking and moving for a little while before it finally died of those terrible burns, because the salt solution gets into the lungs and burns the lungs, too."


6 posted on 01/23/2005 3:07:58 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
This war of death is not political, or "sad" or culturally divisive. It is Good versus Evil in its starkest and plainest form.

Amen.

7 posted on 01/23/2005 5:24:08 AM PST by madprof98
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To: SkyPilot
2 things strike me:


1. Mr Bernard Nathanson compares abortion to the Holocaust. I agree with that assessment. However, when Cardinal Meissner here in Cologne said exactly the same thing during Mass, he was castigated by the German Jewish Council for degrading the Holocaust. I guess only Jews have a right to make such comparisons?

2. I'm missing Mr Nathanson repentance. It's ok to turn from an evil practice, but he is after all responsible for those 120 000 abortions which he oversaw. What is he doing about THAT?
8 posted on 01/23/2005 6:02:00 AM PST by seppel
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To: seppel
I'm missing Mr Nathanson repentance. It's ok to turn from an evil practice, but he is after all responsible for those 120 000 abortions which he oversaw. What is he doing about THAT?

The only thing he can do is ask for the redemption that God has offered through the Christ. It does not say in the article that he has done that, only that abortion finally sickened him to such a degree that the cash payments overflowing in his pockets was not enough to continue the bloody practice.

9 posted on 01/23/2005 6:40:42 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: madprof98; CounterCounterCulture; Citizen James

"This war of death is not political, or "sad" or culturally divisive. It is Good versus Evil in its starkest and plainest form. "

Amen.

That really sums it up.


10 posted on 01/23/2005 8:31:56 AM PST by Gal.5:1 (note to self: speak the truth in love)
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To: SmithL
The far left buses in protestors for their mega-rallies ALL THE TIME, so who are they to talk?

~ CCC - Born, raised, and still living in the Bay Area

11 posted on 01/23/2005 8:37:18 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (End the culture of death!)
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That's a woman? {shudders}

There were plenty more there just like she/he/it.

12 posted on 01/23/2005 8:39:58 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (End the culture of death!)
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To: CounterCounterCulture; SkyPilot; Gal.5:1; Citizen James

"Too Bad Barbara Bush Wasn't Pro-Choice" - Ah, the tolerance of the Left. It also seems they know what's going on with abortion, yet they don't seem to care. How utterly evil...
13 posted on 01/23/2005 8:41:32 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: SmithL
In dueling marches, about 6,000 antiabortion activists in the Walk for Life West Coast were jeered and harangued by about 3,000 advocates for abortion rights, some waving wire hangers. SSDPile for the MAM.

Continuing their march intio irrelevancy - Hup.2,3, 4.

14 posted on 01/23/2005 8:47:32 AM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Pyro7480

Actually, Barbara Bush was. She chose life. They hate-filled leftists are hard-pressed to say the word abortion and have to resort to empty euphemisms and rhetoric to get their brain-dead talking points across.


15 posted on 01/23/2005 8:48:03 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture (End the culture of death!)
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To: Pyro7480
When I look at that picture, it reminds me of a Christmas party I went to years ago. For some reason, politics became a topic of conversation. So many of the women at the party were vocal in their support for Democrat candidates, but one woman said: "I bet I know why you all support Democrats."

They rolled their eyes and said: "Sure, tell us."

She said: "I would bet several of you had abortions when you were younger, and the guilt is something that makes you furious. Democrats tell you that what you did was noble and necessary."

The party generated into a shouting fest, and many people left. The woman who challenged them tried to tell them she had had 2 abortions years ago, and knew what they felt, but there was no room for discussion. I never saw a room with so much tension and hostility.

16 posted on 01/23/2005 10:25:34 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
The protester in post #6 reminds me of Rachel Corrie.


17 posted on 01/23/2005 10:39:28 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: SmithL

I was there....

Two observations:

A pro-abort sign-waver with a poster reading "Protect My Daughter's Rights"

--- HUH?

The pro-abort contingent was, not unsurprisingly given the venue, heavily skewed with gays and lesbians

--- what was that old saying?

You no play-a the GAME, you no make-a the RULES? Leave the Life issues to the BREEDERS!


It was gratifying to show to the world that there are actually normal people who live on Ora Sinistra, the Left Coast.

Mantilla Militant


18 posted on 01/23/2005 10:42:54 AM PST by MantillaMilitant
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To: SmithL; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...


19 posted on 01/23/2005 1:51:05 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: seppel

Dr. Nathanson became pro-life and then became a Christian.
He is responsible for the "Silent Scream" and has now devoted himself to overturning the damage he has done.


20 posted on 01/23/2005 5:52:54 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: SmithL; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; ...

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

21 posted on 01/23/2005 6:56:53 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Women need abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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To: MantillaMilitant; Coleus; CounterCounterCulture

I was there, too. It was good to freep with CounterCounterCulture. We had a great time! CCC took them on on the issue of civil rights. He was beautiful! My sign had a photo of Holly Marie Patterson who was killed by Planned Parenthood (RU 486).

It was the most amazing contrast - us and them. See for yourself by the photos.


22 posted on 01/23/2005 10:19:35 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: MantillaMilitant

Where were you? At one point I found myself at the very end of the procession. Had to hurry up to catch up with CounterCounterCulture. The opposition sure were nasty, weren't they? If I had a nickel for every middle finger and every "F" word that was hurled at us, I'd be rich. Sheeeeesh.


23 posted on 01/23/2005 10:21:45 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
As Abortion Rights Turn 32, Rallies Endure

Sat Jan 22, 6:18 PM ET

By BRIAN MELLEY, Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO - Activists on both sides of the abortion issue marched in demonstrations across the country Saturday to mark the 32nd anniversary of the historic U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) decision that made abortion legal.

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The anniversary came amid speculation that retirements on the Supreme Court could alter its makeup and its long-standing defense of the Roe v. Wade (news - web sites) decision during President Bush (news - web sites)'s second term. Chief Justice William Rehnquist (news - web sites) is 80 and suffering from thyroid cancer.

In San Francisco, thousands of abortion opponents marched on the city's waterfront, chanting slogans like "Women deserve better," while abortion rights supporters tried to drown them out with their own rallying cries.

San Francisco Supervisor Tom Ammiano said he thought it was ironic that anti-abortion activists chose the liberal West Coast city as the site for their demonstration.

"I think they want to parlay that irony," Ammiano said. "What better place than San Francisco, not only as an act of provocation, but I think as an act of arrogance. But we know how to handle it."

Abortion opponents carrying American flags and signs reading "Parental Rights" and "Choose Life" also marched on the state capitol in Austin, Texas, where Republican Gov. Rick Perry pledged support for a bill requiring a minor to get her parents' consent for an abortion.

"Abortion needs to be brought in line with nearly every other medical procedure performed on minors, and that includes parental consent," said Joe Pojman, executive director of Texas Alliance for Life.

Sarah Wheat, spokeswoman for NARAL Pro-Choice Texas, said her group opposes a parental consent law because it would not have a huge impact on the abortion rate.

"For us, it looks like a lot of time and energy that is not going to have that big of an impact, positive or negative," she said.

In Los Angeles, Catholic Cardinal Roger Mahony was expected to lead an annual "Respect Life Mass" Saturday featuring the lighting of 157 candles to signify the number of abortions being performed a day in the city.

Event Pictures

24 posted on 01/23/2005 10:24:16 PM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields killed how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: Coleus; CounterCounterCulture

My sign had photos of Holly Marie Patterson with the words "Rest In Peace - Ban RU-486 Abortion Pill"

I was not silent as I marched along. Neither was CounterCounterCulture. You know FReepers can't keep our mouths shut. You know that.

I said stuff like, "Holly was pro choice" and "Killed by Planned Parenthood" - stuff like that. They didn't like it much.

I have never seen so many horrible people in my life as those pro abortion people. Sheeeeeesh. I was so proud to be counted among the pro lifers.

I found myself at one point surrounded by pro life Mexicans - I knew they were singing about Jesus. Some were dancing and I joined in the dance.

At another point I was surrounded by pro life Catholics. They had pictures of Mary and pictures of Jesus. They were praying the Rosary. They were so sweet.

I couldn't help myself from yelling at some of the pro aborts. I couldn't help it! One of the orange shirts (our side) told me I was not supposed to say anything. I told him that Holly couldn't speak for herself so I wanted to speak for her. He kind of got mad at me but I couldn't shut up. No matter how hard I tried.


25 posted on 01/23/2005 10:36:03 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: Coleus; CounterCounterCulture

Oh, yeah, there was this pro abort woman who was nude from the waist up except for small strips of black tape covering her nipples - which just shows how stupid they are - it was cold!

There were also these women who had multiple plaster of paris breasts. It was so weird. They yelled obscenities at us; taunted us; made fun of us; flipped us off; they would have kicked and stomped on us except for the police. Thank Goodness for the Police or I'd probably be in jail right now.


26 posted on 01/23/2005 10:39:39 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Oh, yeah, there was this pro abort woman who was nude from the waist up except for small strips of black tape covering her nipples - which just shows how stupid they are - it was cold! There were also these women who had multiple plaster of paris breasts. It was so weird. They yelled obscenities at us; taunted us; made fun of us; flipped us off; they would have kicked and stomped on us except for the police. Thank Goodness for the Police or I'd probably be in jail right now.

Thanks for fighting the good fight on the other coast. Sounds like the same type of idjuts we were dealing with in DC last week. Saw a young girl with a binch a buttons on saying, " I Love Pro Choice Boys."

27 posted on 01/24/2005 8:56:10 PM PST by RepubMommy
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To: SmithL
An abortion rights supporter was arrested by police after her group forced the anti-abortion Walk for Life West Coast to divert their route.

Is that a man, a woman, or an it???

28 posted on 01/24/2005 8:58:34 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("We clearly screwed up on the communications," Detroit Mayor Kilpatrick - after caught in a lie.)
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To: Clemenza
In dueling marches, about 6,000 antiabortion activists in the Walk for Life West Coast were jeered and harangued by about 3,000 advocates for abortion rights, some waving wire hangers.

NO WIRE HANGERS!

I'd laugh at your comments but the actions above really are just sickening me to death right now.

29 posted on 01/24/2005 8:59:13 PM PST by RepubMommy
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To: RepubMommy
I have a morbid sense of humor, but the sick bastards who support such a procedure REALLY make my stomach turn

Sad to say, but both of my parents make my stomach turn.

On a more positive note, what's the best place in Jersey for rentals these days?

30 posted on 01/24/2005 9:29:26 PM PST by Clemenza (I Am Here to Chew Bubblegum and Kick Ass, and I'm ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!)
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To: Clemenza
Sad to say, but both of my parents make my stomach turn. On a more positive note, what's the best place in Jersey for rentals these days?

Sorry about your parents. I don't get how a parent can actually support abortion rights. I was pro choice once too, then I saw my firstborn on an ultrasound. Where's the best place in NJ for a rental? I would have to go with Pennsylania. j/k, are you coming back?

31 posted on 01/24/2005 9:36:36 PM PST by RepubMommy
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To: RepubMommy

I'd move to Pennsylvania (as Ron Kuby calls the Poconos "Outerwhitelandia") only if I got a job there. For commuting to NYC, you would have to be insane to live there.


32 posted on 01/25/2005 7:54:09 AM PST by Clemenza (I Am Here to Chew Bubblegum and Kick Ass, and I'm ALL OUT OF BUBBLEGUM!)
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