Posted on 01/23/2005 3:12:28 AM PST by Calpernia
Mexico may be well on its way to a monotheistic revolution. This new trend is emerging from recent developments, and reflects a similar change evident in other South American nations - people are embracing Islam by the thousands, jettisoning the Catholicism imposed upon their ancestors in Spain.
The prayer congregation has tripled since Mexico City's Centro Cultural Islamico de Mexico (CCIM) first opened its doors 6 years ago. The numbers could be even higher. However, most Mexicans still have almost no knowledge of Islam. CCIM is spreading the Oneness of Allah at all levels of society and translating Islamic publications into Spanish. It also has several native-born active Da'wah graduates from Saudi Arabian universities who speak fluent Arabic. The Center's Islamic public radio program had to be suspended because of financial constraints.
In the last 3 years, CCIM built two new mosques in two cities close to the capital. Its ultimate goal is to establish full-time mosques in every major Mexican city.
Early History
Mexico has a rich history. The people of pre-Columbian Mexico, the Mayans, led a life similar to Native American Indians and were pantheists who relied upon high priests to mediate with their nature gods. Locked in wars and short of food, they gradually were wiped out and replaced by the Aztecs. These people believed in a polytheistic religion based on the world's constant creation and destruction. Their religion taught them that disasters could be averted only through warfarre and human sacrifice. By the sixteenth century, the Aztecs ruled a large part of Mexico.
In the early 1500's, Spanish conquistadors from Cuba and Spain came to pillage Mexico's natural resources - namely gold - and find glory. Cortez, the most infamous conquistador, posed as an Aztec god to mystify and trick people into joining forces with him. He conquered the Aztecs in less than 3 years, and set up "New Spain."
In 1535, the first royal court was established to grant Spanish colonists control over native labor and produce. The Roman Catholic Church allied to the Spanish monarchy, worked for creating a land free of religious dissent and to convert the people. During the 300 years of Spanish rule in Mexico, the colonists controlled all wealth and political power, and the natives had no other choice but to bey orders or to face death.
By the seventeenth century, New Spain had nearly collapsed, and Mexican Indians were dying by the millions from the imported diseases and the hard labor imposed by their oppressors. Out of nearly 11 million people in the 1520's, only less than 1 million remained by the 1550's. The cattle and sheep herds brought by the Spaniards ruined farmlands and depleted water resources, making it almost impossible for the natives to grow food. After enduring plunder and subjugation for centuries, Mexicans revolted and regained control over Mexico in the early 1900's.
Mexico Today
Today, Mexico has over 90 million people, most of whom follow the Catholicism imposed by the conquering Spaniards. However, the foodgates of religious thought have opened, and people are examing other religions - especially Islam.
There is very little knowledge about the origins of Islam in Mexico. Some sources say Syrian immigrants brought it; others say it came with Turkish immigrants.
Today, most Mexican Islamic organizations focus on grassroots Da'wah. These small organizations are most effective at the community level, going from village to village and speaking directly to the people. As a result of such hard work, Mexicans are eager to learn about Islam, and many are declaring their Shahadah - profession of faith in Islam.
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Mexicans will not fight the corruption within their own government that causes the economic misery in which they live.
Will they fight Islamic fundamentalsim when it impacts their lives or flee from it like they do the corruption?
(Just one more excuse to run for the border, IMO.)
Don't you have to learn Arabic to convert to Islam? Most of the Mexicans I run into don't seem inclined to learn any language other than Spanish.
A more accurate title might be "Islam spreads to Mexico"
Half the world is at war over this dangerous ideology and we don't even recognize the danger it presents.
Tell me one more time why we are in Iraq!!!!
Go ahead, embrace islam. But Mexico still won't win any wars.
Mexican Muslims...that's all we need.......
It's Christians who impose...Muslims...nahhhhh.
Conversions in Mexico in the 1530s were dramatically accelerated by the miracle of the Virgin of Guadalupe, which is why the Mexicans have such a devotion to her today. Millions of Aztecs were baptized following that event.
Muslims?...We don't need no stinking Muslims......
Will they fight Islamic fundamentalsim when it impacts their lives or flee from it like they do the corruption?
(Just one more excuse to run for the border, IMO.)
The Church of Scientology is always bragging about how fast it's growing, but it's never very big. I predict the same thing will be the case for Islam in the Latin world. They'll always be bragging about how fast they're growing, but they'll never get very big.
An Islamic country directly to our south is a frightening prospect.
>>>Don't you have to learn Arabic to convert to Islam? Most of the Mexicans I run into don't seem inclined to learn any language other than Spanish.
In traditional Islam, Yes. You have to learn Arabic.
BUT, in this non traditional infiltration...I'm not sure.
I've seen many mosques websites that have a translate view icon. This allows for spanish viewers.
So, I don't know.
bump!
Are you serious?
Note the site you referenced. AllIslamic sites LIE, this article most definitely
>>>Did this article come from an Islamic website?
NOPE!
If you convert you MUST learn ARabbic -- the Korn cannot be recited in anything BUT arabic
>>>If you convert you MUST learn ARabbic -- the Korn cannot be recited in anything BUT arabic
This rule you site I know it is true.
IRONICALLY, the Quran IS being cited on these 'mexican/spanish mosques sites' in SPANISH.
I don't understand it. I know the rules as you just stated as true. But these spanish sites have been up at least since 9/11.
I don't know.
All the more reason to come the US...only this time to bomb and destroy. The mullahs preach hate, the lingua franca of Islam (a little John Kerry lingo there), while blaming Christianity/Catholicism as well for the plight of the poor Mexican. They'll find enough dolts to buy it so they won't have to import Arabs to blow up the US. Homegrown Mexicans will be ready, willing, and able to do the job. Is anyone paying attention in the WH?
Muslims in the US vastly exaggerate their numbers, as well. Spokesman have claimed as many as 15 million Muslims in the US. A couple of surveys in 2001 found about 1.8 to 2.8 million at the time. Let's say 3 million now. Muslims also brag about how many converts they make. I would ask how many converts stick with Islam and how many Muslims convert to other religions.
Islam has found some converts in the US amongst Hispanics and whites, but I suspect that they convert for the same reasons that some blacks do -- jailbirds, people who are estranged from society, marriage and women with a mistaken belief that Islam "respects" women.
Islamofascists will be more than willing to bend the language requirement for Mexicans eager to convert. They're crazy, but not brain dead.
It would be to confusing to have to learn the Arabic Language...Look how they take to english......
>>>The Church of Scientology is always bragging about how fast it's growing, but it's never very big. I predict the same thing will be the case for Islam in the Latin world. They'll always be bragging about how fast they're growing, but they'll never get very big.
Yes, I agree. One big marketing tactic is make the mass think 'everyone is doing it'. I was an international marketer for YEARS (before children). I know all these moves.
BUT, the Mexican connection is DOWNPLAYED. It is downplayed to the US. Not the information that is in place.
The Mexicans have been being converted for years.
do a simple google search to see.
No, it came from a 'free' website that referenced printed articles along with the 'author's' opinion.
Mexicans could be converts on training wheels -- bin Laden could issue an edict saying it was okay without having become proficient in Arabic, as long as they promised to go forth and destroy the Great Satan. Fox and his pals had better pay attention, though. One could imagine a few bombs going off as pay back to the oligarchy on their way out of town. This scenario might appeal to Azatlan wannabee's, too. We'd better destroy Islamofascism at its source, and soon.
It's an interesting article. Thanks for posting.
I agree. But you missed my references.
Your initial thoughts, YES, from my ORIGINAL understandings, you have to learn ARABIC.
NOT disputing you.
BUT, something ELSE is going on because there are many mosques websites ALONG with Quran translation sites that are becoming available in SPANISH now.
Not my assumption. It is there. What is going on?
"baby, baby...can't you hear my heart beat.."
Keep those borders open, Jorge. Your bosses demand it.
A Salami No likem.
How bout the way the peace loving followers hordes of the Prophet imposed Jihad on Spain in the year 711 AD. Can you say Bosnia? How do think Islam spread through the Balkans and eastern Europe? It was imposed by Jihad.
>>> Let's say 3 million now. Muslims also brag about how many converts they make.
Add to this observation...Places like CA where they have the schools observe Ramadan. They have the students recite that odd line from Shadanan ???? Ok, I don't remember.
I'm pinging Alouette.
Alouette, what is that line called? The line that means someone is converted to Islam?
This line is slipped into many as a 'convertion', yet most that say it don't know that they are being converted.
This 'line' that Alouette can expand on is what the numbers are based off of.
No, they can quote it, but the reciting of it in the mosque can only be in Arabic, nothing else.
The blacks who convert toIslasm are highly mistaken -- they forget the slammies in Sudan and Saudi A still keep bblack slaves. The word for slave in Arabicc is the same as the word for negro. One Irqi 'insurgent' also said that the reason he fought was because of the humiliation of the American military putting black soldiers in charge of Irqis
To annoy you, personally.
I guess that you miss the point!
No, I got the point, and it is to annoy you.
cool. Islam really messes up a country. the economy goes down and eventually all they export are bombs. so the US just scraps NAFTA with this impoversihed lot and let them sizzle.
(Unless you are agreeing with being in Iraq, in which case, you've just annoyed me by making me think you meant the opposite)
I'm discailmering now...
I made statement earlier...
That you are now commenting on...
That im now ignoring because i am distracted by my children and the storm i now have to shovel out.
I hope to be on later to address this thread.
this is the natural path of lib transformation. expect most libs to end up moslem in a decade or 2.
first they question Christianty, then "redeem" themselves from it, then fight it (abortion, homo-marriage, ACLU etc.) then ban it (Communist and Arab countries), and then turn to Islam.
Bible predicts that when you turn your back on Christ you head for bondage.
Well then I guess that you are annoyed!
O course I agree with being in Iraq. I believe that it is by design that we are using Iraq to draw terrorist from all over the World to fight Islam on their shores, and that freeing Iraq's people is just an added benefit.
That's annoying.
I'm very annoyed.
I think I'll go over to Democrat Underground and piss off a liberal.
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