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ITALY TO SEND ATTACK HELICOPTERS TO IRAQ
Hindustan Times ^ | 1/23/05

Posted on 01/23/2005 10:39:58 AM PST by areafiftyone

Italy is to send its powerful Mangusta attack helicopters to Iraq because of worsening unrest in the run-up to January 30 elections, and following the killing of one of its soldiers by insurgents last week, media reports said on Sunday.

"Based on the worsening situation we have been evaluating, already for some time, sending the Mangusta helicopters into the field," said General Filiberto Cicci, the top military officer overseeing the Italian mission in Iraq,

The Corriere della Sera newspaper said the Mangustas would be sent "within a matter of days, or a few weeks".

However, Cicci said in an interview with Sunday's La Stampa the decision to send the Mangusta was unrelated to the killing of a machine-gunner aboard one of its standard helicopters last Friday.

Controversy has raged in Italy over the suitability of the current AB-412 helicopter for the Iraq mission, where it is mainly used for reconnaissance and providing air protection for humanitarian convoys.


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1 posted on 01/23/2005 10:39:58 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Wonder how the DUmmies will take this LOL!


2 posted on 01/23/2005 10:44:21 AM PST by BladeLWS
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To: areafiftyone
Some info on the Mangusta here.
3 posted on 01/23/2005 10:51:40 AM PST by Dan Middleton (Car 185 is out of service. RIP Officer Brian Hurst, CPD (USMC, Ret.))
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To: areafiftyone

>>Controversy has raged in Italy over the suitability of the current AB-412 helicopter for the Iraq mission, where it is mainly used for reconnaissance and providing air protection for humanitarian convoys.<<

For the sake of accuracy, controversy has raged only on the MSM. In that kind of mission a Mangusta would've been useless. And there's still people here able to figure out why in Iraq a soldier can die these days, regardless of what Saddam's buddies in the press tell us. They'll vote in Nasiriyah, and our boys will make sure of that.

These losers just can't get over Nov2 and the fact that we're still there with the USA. The Machine gunner who died was a very good soldier and a patriot. All his friends, relatives and colleagues remember him so. He was from a town near Rome. Please pray for him

(Anyway the Mangusta helicopters are truly great. The US army is evaluating them. Hope they send them to Nasiriyah to squash some more terrorist scum!)


4 posted on 01/23/2005 10:58:18 AM PST by fabrizio (W 04 - a huge "Dubya rocks, YEE-HAW " from Italy !!)
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To: fabrizio

Glad to hear they are sending them. The Italian soldiers need to be protected with the best equipment. Prayers for the brave Italian soldier who died.


5 posted on 01/23/2005 11:00:42 AM PST by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: areafiftyone

Sweet 'copter. Good allies. The election is going to happen, and the good guys are going to win again. Thanks Italy!


7 posted on 01/23/2005 11:18:01 AM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: Aeronaut

Ping (forgot earlier). Though helicopters aren't "real" aviation. ;-)


8 posted on 01/23/2005 11:21:34 AM PST by Dan Middleton (Car 185 is out of service. RIP Officer Brian Hurst, CPD (USMC, Ret.))
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To: Dan Middleton; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...
Though helicopters aren't "real" aviation. ;-)

Ducking...


9 posted on 01/23/2005 11:23:17 AM PST by Aeronaut (Proud to be a monthly donor.)
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To: Aeronaut
I hope they paint two words on each one.

"Fabrizio Quattrocchi"

10 posted on 01/23/2005 11:25:32 AM PST by snopercod ( We as the people no longer truly believe in liberty, not as Americans did -- Dayfdd ab Hugh)
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To: areafiftyone

Good evaluation of the Mangusta I would think...hopefully this won't be interpreted as things worsening, but I know it probably will.


11 posted on 01/23/2005 11:36:22 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: areafiftyone
>Italy is to send its powerful Mangusta attack helicopters to Iraq

The pilots will all
be women who look like this!
Fishnets from above!

12 posted on 01/23/2005 11:43:25 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: snopercod
I hope they paint two words on each one.

"Fabrizio Quattrocchi"

Amen.

13 posted on 01/23/2005 11:49:56 AM PST by Aeronaut (Proud to be a monthly donor.)
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To: Dan Middleton

That's one mean looking piece of hardware!!
Hurray for Italy on this decision!!
God Bless All The Troops Involved!!


14 posted on 01/23/2005 11:54:08 AM PST by FlashBack (Faith will not make our path easy, but it will give us strength for the Journey.)
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To: fabrizio
Controversy has raged in Italy over the suitability of the current AB-412 helicopter for the Iraq mission, where it is mainly used for reconnaissance and providing air protection for humanitarian convoys.<<

For the sake of accuracy, controversy has raged only on the MSM. In that kind of mission a Mangusta would've been useless

Why? "reconnaissance and providing air protection" is exactly what the Mangusta is designed for. Far more than the AB-412


15 posted on 01/23/2005 4:29:34 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Not a tag line)
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To: areafiftyone
Man, I miss the Crobra's.

67Y10 Attack Helicopter Repairman
Active Army 1985-1988
Minnesota National Guard 1988-1993
16 posted on 01/23/2005 4:33:58 PM PST by RetroWarrior ('I will guard my post from flank to flank and take no 'crap' from any rank')
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To: RetroWarrior
Opps Make that Cobra's he-he.

I really need to proof read more!
17 posted on 01/23/2005 4:37:33 PM PST by RetroWarrior ('I will guard my post from flank to flank and take no 'crap' from any rank')
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To: Oztrich Boy

>>For the sake of accuracy, controversy has raged only on the MSM. In that kind of mission a Mangusta would've been useless<<
>>>Why? "reconnaissance and providing air protection" is exactly what the Mangusta is designed for. Far more than the AB-412<<<

Yes, and I can't wait to see our Mangustas paying back those animals, but in that specific mission they were flying over civilian premises and crowd. They had to be ready to rescue Iraqi officers and civilians with prisoners if necessary due to a terrorist infiltration the peaceful inhabitants of Nasiriyah who support us wholeheartedly (we've spotted - and killed or arrested -countless islamofascists thanks to the help of that good peeple). The firepower of the Mangusta would've been excessive in the context.

I agree that we (the coalition as a whole I mean) should go more on the Falluja/take-two mode, but this time it's just that those missions imply that you risk that someone hidden among innocent civilians shoots at your chopper. You can't just raze the neighborhoods right away if the crowd is not hostile. When it was possible, like in April when there was the battle for the bridges of Nasiriya, we killed about 200 terrorists, but that was a larger scale battle, and we had cut the enemy away from the civilian homes.

Believe me, the people there are with us, regardless of what CNN says. From what my friends there tell when they're back, I understand better why the coalition forces seem too prudent at times. It's a gallery of 35 year long horrors, and we are the first uniform-wearing people treating them humanely they've seen in decades. Winning their sympathy was "easy" but losing it can be easy too, when you've been through what they have been through. We must be VERY prudent. Especially with the impending election.


18 posted on 01/24/2005 2:10:44 AM PST by fabrizio (W 04 - a huge "Dubya rocks, YEE-HAW " from Italy !!)
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They're gonna' get a 767 tanker real soon...


19 posted on 01/24/2005 7:11:34 AM PST by baltodog ("Thank God we weren't on that bridge when Thurston shot his balls off...")
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