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A Celebrity Killer Is Freed (Wilbert Rideau)
Modesto Bee ^ | 1/22/05 | Michael Fumento

Posted on 01/23/2005 12:12:12 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak

Hallelujah! After 44 years one of America's most famous convicts, a black man named Wilbert Rideau convicted of murdering a white woman in Louisiana during the Jim Crow era, is free. Headlines worldwide proclaim justice has been done. But they couldn't be more wrong. Justice is weeping. For Rideau remains what he was when I knew him 17 years ago - a cold blooded murderer.

Three different juries convicted Rideau, now 62, of murder. But all were overturned on technicalities, providing Rideau an incredible fourth chance. This time he was convicted only of manslaughter, downgrading his sentence to a maximum of 21 years and thereby freeing him. But here are the uncontested facts of the case.

In 1961 Rideau robbed a St. Charles, Louisiana bank using a gun he'd purchased the day before along with a buck knife. He ordered three employees into his car and drove them to a bayou. There he emptied his gun into them a point blank range, hitting two in the neck and a third in the arm. One escaped into the water; one feigned death. The third, Julia Ferguson, made the mistake (according to others) of begging for her life. Rideau drew his knife and plunged it into her heart, killing her.

(Excerpt) Read more at modbee.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: fumento; wilbertrideau
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Great Fumento article.
1 posted on 01/23/2005 12:12:12 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

He's a standup guy but Bush is a criminal. More "liberal" logic.


2 posted on 01/23/2005 12:16:40 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Do I smell Johnny Cochran?


3 posted on 01/23/2005 12:16:59 PM PST by Cornpone
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Oops, make that: liberal "logic".


4 posted on 01/23/2005 12:17:12 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Unbelievable!


5 posted on 01/23/2005 12:18:32 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Cornpone

He was on his defense team.


6 posted on 01/23/2005 12:18:55 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
I have seen the movie "The Farm" about Angola Prison.

Every convict was scum who deserved to be there.

7 posted on 01/23/2005 12:20:28 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

'"I was 19 years old," he said at trial. "It was ill-conceived. It was dumb."'


Not to mention cold-hearted, despicable, and just plain evil.


I suppose Mumia will be the next "victim" to be paroled. >:(


8 posted on 01/23/2005 12:25:01 PM PST by DemforBush
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"He was on his defense team."

Celebrity justice...

9 posted on 01/23/2005 12:27:06 PM PST by Cornpone
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
overturned on technicalities...

I wonder what kind of technicalities could have effected a trial of a black man in Louisiana back in the 1960's?

11 posted on 01/23/2005 12:28:41 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
"But all were overturned on technicalities, providing Rideau an incredible fourth chance."

Sounds like it's right out of the Dem Election Playbook - Keep counting until the 'Correct' outcome is obtained irrespective of the facts or truth of the matter. It was on full display in both this instance and in the recent Wash. Governors election.

12 posted on 01/23/2005 12:29:32 PM PST by drt1
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To: trumandogz

You know the answer to that but whatever, the truth was, and he admitted it, he killed those people in cold blood committing a felony. He should have never walked free.


13 posted on 01/23/2005 12:30:40 PM PST by cajungirl (my peeps are freeps)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

If you don't execute them, they get to murder again. Always remember that.


14 posted on 01/23/2005 12:34:47 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: cajungirl
Trust me, being from Louisiana I know the sad answer to my question and this guy is scum no matter what his race.

However, having a Justice System that would deny blacks seats on juries and deny a black defendant the right to a fair trial is a far greater injustice than murder.

The man has served more than 40 years and yes he is scum and the Lord will have greater retribution for him than earth can provide. Now Louisiana has to pay for their sins and we can all pray that this old man does not kill again.

15 posted on 01/23/2005 12:39:43 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

http://wbz1030.com/apnational/PrisonJournalist-Chro-aa/resources_news_html


17 posted on 01/23/2005 12:43:38 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Cactuspete
Hi Cactuspete-

"...Well, the test will be to see how long he remains alive after they kick him out..."

Americans have very short, media-bite attention spans. Surviving family and friends directly involved at the time are now in their mid-sixties or older. As a society, we need to improve our "collective memories" about these kind of atrocities. This dirtbag is trying to blame an attempted triple homicide on "youthful" idiocy?

This horrible person will live out the rest of his years in relative peace, unlike his victims.

~ Blue Jays ~

18 posted on 01/23/2005 12:43:55 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: trumandogz

If he does kill again, odds are he will kill a Democrat.


19 posted on 01/23/2005 12:46:07 PM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
2000: 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals overturns conviction because black people were excluded from the 1961 grand jury.

Sad, but true....

20 posted on 01/23/2005 12:49:13 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: GatorPaul
I believe it was overturned due to no blacks being on the grand jury,but back in the sixties in Louisiana very few blacks would have been eligible for any kind of jury duty since they did not register to vote or would have been on any list for jury duty.

Are you kidding? Blacks were not Allowed to Register to Vote in Louisiana in the early 1960's and once they were permitted to register to vote they were given Literacy Tests.

Funny thing about the Literacy tests in Louisiana was that they gave two different tests. One for Whites and one for Blacks. Guess which test was much easier to pass...

22 posted on 01/23/2005 12:58:54 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: GatorPaul
This has been a lightening rod case that two governors and three previous juries elected to keep him incarcerated. He was convicted of murder three times and sentenced to die but that was overturned when the SCOTUS ruled it out in 1973. During his time in prison, 700 convicted murderers were freed, mostly during the '70s and '80s when probation after 10 years served became almost routine for convicted killers. [ http://www.livingstonparishnews.com/articles/2005/01/23/full_edition/editorials_and_opinions/04maginnis.txt ]

Now look for the big movie, book, talk show deals to emerge.
23 posted on 01/23/2005 12:59:57 PM PST by deport (It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

trumandogz has been a FReeper since December 19, 2004.

~ Blue Jays ~

24 posted on 01/23/2005 1:03:22 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays
Well, thanks for the welcome.

How long would I have to be a member before I could point out that the reason this person was released from prison was that he did not have a fair trial back in the 1960's?

26 posted on 01/23/2005 1:09:01 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

You have got to be kidding with that post.


27 posted on 01/23/2005 1:11:25 PM PST by cyborg
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To: trumandogz
So let me see if I can follow your logic.

Since Louisiana was unfair to blacks in the Jim Crow era, the murder should be let free. Letting a murderer out of prison because he was convicted during the Jim Crow era is just, because the state that convicted him was unjust. Minorities not being able to sit on a jury is a worse crime than murder (the actual taking of a persons life), so the murder should be absolved.

Now we should just sit around and hope that he behaves. Because we have to do some sort of cosmic penance, I imagine (help me out here??)

Okay.

Usually logic follows some sort of reasonable sequence and the two things you are trying to relate actually have something in common. Let's try a few exercises on how not to construct a syllogism.

1) My father has a red dog that is kind.
2) I see a red dog on the street.
3) Therefore that dog must belong to my father OR
4) Therefore that dog is kind.

Next one.

1) The murder was black.
2) Black people suffered under Jim Crow laws.
3) Therefore, the murderer should go free.

Hope that helps.

APf
28 posted on 01/23/2005 1:12:13 PM PST by APFel (The left are to people as wolves are to sheep.)
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To: GatorPaul
It pains me to see this man released. He is scum from the bottom of a Calcasieu Parish rice patty. He is a disgrace to the human race...

But, the people of Louisiana (which I once was and my family still is) will have to pay the price of their crime by recognizing that they did not provide for fair trials for all its citizens.

29 posted on 01/23/2005 1:12:59 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: GatorPaul

I don't think it's a miscarriage of justice because he did spend forty years in prison. How many murderers spend that much time in prison today?


30 posted on 01/23/2005 1:13:32 PM PST by cyborg
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To: APFel
The US Constitution states that people charged with a crime shall be granted a fair trial.

The 5th ruled that he was denied a fair trial.

Therefore his conviction was overturned.

31 posted on 01/23/2005 1:17:04 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

He admitted to the murders. What don't you understand about that?


32 posted on 01/23/2005 1:17:54 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
I don't think it's a miscarriage of justice because he did spend forty years in prison. How many murderers spend that much time in prison today?

You have a point there, sad to say.

33 posted on 01/23/2005 1:18:29 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Dang! I thought this was an article about a guy who kills celebrities :-)


35 posted on 01/23/2005 1:20:36 PM PST by rabidralph (Congratulations, Pres. Bush and VP Cheney!)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Rideau used the Jake Blues defense:

"No, I didn't [rob that bank, kidnap three defenseless women, try to kill all three of them, and actually kill one of them by stabbing her in the heart while she begged for mercy]. Honest...I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD."

And the jury bought it.

36 posted on 01/23/2005 1:23:56 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: trumandogz
Hi trumandogz-

Welcome to Free Republic.

Wilbert Redeau robbed a bank, took three people hostage, subsequently shot all captives in a attempt to kill them...and stabbed one middle-aged woman to death with a hunting knife.

So, what was wrong with the three "unfair" juries that tossed him in the clink for life, again? Decent people of any race would see that this animal served notice on society that he is not fit to live amongst us.

~ Blue Jays ~

37 posted on 01/23/2005 1:24:11 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: trumandogz
How long would I have to be a member before I could point out that the reason this person was released from prison was that he did not have a fair trial back in the 1960's?

You seem to be saying that a fair trial is not possible unless the racial makeup of the jury is "right" (whatever that means). Presumably, a black juror would have had more sympathy for this criminal than a white one, despite the clear evidence of his guilt.

Do you believe that?
39 posted on 01/23/2005 1:24:54 PM PST by Logophile
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To: trumandogz
How long would I have to be a member before I could point out that the reason this person was released from prison was that he did not have a fair trial back in the 1960's?

Why do you think he didn't get a fair trial? Don't you think white jurors capable of being fair?

40 posted on 01/23/2005 1:28:06 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: trumandogz
Hi trumandogz-

What if a fifth, racially-mixed jury found him guilty and sentenced him to death?

~ Blue Jays ~

41 posted on 01/23/2005 1:29:18 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: cyborg
I don't think it's a miscarriage of justice because he did spend forty years in prison. How many murderers spend that much time in prison today?

The justice system has been damaged because it reinforces the legal precedent of freeing killers based on technicalities. The next one freed may only have spent five years in prison.

42 posted on 01/23/2005 1:39:32 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

I wonder what technicalities got him off.


43 posted on 01/23/2005 1:47:24 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Logophile
Do you believe that?

The 5th Circuit Court (the most Conservative court in the US) believes it and that is all that really matters.

44 posted on 01/23/2005 1:47:41 PM PST by trumandogz
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Apparently the Judges on the 5th did not believe that he got a fair trial.

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/99/99-30849.cv0.wpd.pdf

Judges on this case:

Davis: Appointed by Reagan
Dennis: Appointed by Clinton
Smith: Appointed by Reagan
45 posted on 01/23/2005 1:56:51 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
You are right.

You should immediately petition your state legislators to open the doors to all people of non Caucasian descent convicted prior to the civil rights movement. They all had unfair trials simply because there were no faces of color on the jury AND OUR NATION MUST PAY by letting them out.

Yeesh... worse than murder my foot.

APf
46 posted on 01/23/2005 2:06:43 PM PST by APFel (The left are to people as wolves are to sheep.)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

Tango, Romeo, Oscar, Lima, Lima...on my smoke!

~ Blue Jays ~

47 posted on 01/23/2005 2:11:07 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Blue Jays

What does that mean?


48 posted on 01/23/2005 2:14:13 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Blue Jays

LOL!!! I got it.. not enough coffee ;-)


49 posted on 01/23/2005 2:14:31 PM PST by cyborg
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To: trumandogz
The 5th Circuit Court (the most Conservative court in the US) believes it and that is all that really matters.

You evaded my question.

And no, in a free society, the beliefs of unelected judges are not "all that really matters."
50 posted on 01/23/2005 2:15:32 PM PST by Logophile
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