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"Support our Troop" Stickers...Creates a Stir at U of O
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Posted on 01/23/2005 3:21:00 PM PST by Brian Mosely

A yellow ribbon sticker that says "Support The Troops" has created a big stir at the University of Oregon.

A day after a campus employee was told to remove the sticker from his maintenance vehicle -- people on campus are reacting.

It all started after a university employee complained.

Some think the university may have gone too far.

But for now... all the stickers are gone.

For some it's a sticker that supports the troops.

But at the University of Oregon... someone saw it as a political statement.

"I don't know how they think these are political.. i think they're patriotic," said Pete Baker, U of O delivery driver.

Pete Baker has had the stickers on his work truck... for months.

Friday, a university employee... complained.

Now the stickers are gone.

"I'm not democratic or republican.. and i was really surprised the university deemed them to be political," said Baker.

Others who work with Baker... try to understand.

"These are like their offices they work in them for eight hours a day.. they're going to do something personal with them," said Ron Lattion, facilities Maintenace worker.

In an e-mailed statement.. the University of Oregon says it is unclear if the decals are a political statement.

But to make sure they are in compliance with state restrictions... all stickers were ordered to be removed. "I think it's really a tough situation... because both sides have valid arguments," said Terra Wegner, a U of O student.

"It really comes down to the question of should state employees be allowed to express their opinions," said Morgan Goulding, a Eugene resident.

Under university guidelines the trucks are not be used for political purposes.

The question then is... what constitutes a political statement.

"I don't think it's political i think they're just trying to support the guys who are putting their lives on the line for this country. be it right or wrong.. be it right or left," said Lattion.

The trucks are part of a public institution.

Under state law... public employees can not use state resources to spread political messages.

The university determined that some may view the yellow ribbons as a political statement...threfore they demanded that all those stickers be removed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: onthehomefront; supportourtroops; yellowribbon
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1 posted on 01/23/2005 3:21:01 PM PST by Brian Mosely
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To: Brian Mosely
Friday, a university employee... complained

Ten bucks says it was a Professor, probably PolySci, or Liberal Arts.
2 posted on 01/23/2005 3:23:15 PM PST by gotmatt
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To: Brian Mosely

God forbid a public university might allow employees to show patriotism. These "halls of higher learning" are such a joke.


3 posted on 01/23/2005 3:23:25 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

After Iran and Syria, we need to liberate Eugene and Berkeley.


4 posted on 01/23/2005 3:24:04 PM PST by nwrep
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To: mlc9852

God forbid a public university might allow employees to show patriotism. These "halls of higher learning" are such a joke.



Fee:
Sure are! Tired of these libs!


5 posted on 01/23/2005 3:25:00 PM PST by FeeinTennessee (I PROUDLY support President George W. Bush!)
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To: nwrep

ROFL...!


6 posted on 01/23/2005 3:25:18 PM PST by austinmark (If GOD Had Been A Liberal, We Wouldn't Have Had The Ten Commandments- We'd Have The Ten Suggestions.)
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To: Brian Mosely
I wonder if the message had been something different concerning the troops, would that have been acceptable? I think we know the answer to the question.

Jen

7 posted on 01/23/2005 3:25:25 PM PST by IVote2 ( God Bless the United States of America and the people who make it great.)
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To: Brian Mosely
It is too bad that there are those so easily offended that a sticker supporting that person's right to object has to be removed. My stickers have my grandson's name on them as he is serving in Falluja.
How sad that they have to destroy everyone else's rights in order to be certain the complainer isn't offended.
8 posted on 01/23/2005 3:25:56 PM PST by midwyf
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To: Brian Mosely
No big surprise this is coming out of the People's Republic of Eugene.

"It really comes down to the question of should state employees be allowed to express their opinions,"

Feh, if state employees are not allowed to express their opinions then every one of the moonbat profs at UO should be fired. The hypocrisy is stunning. The instructors can get away with shoving Communism down the student's throats, but a simple delivery driver can't even support the troops. Good lord this pisses me off.

9 posted on 01/23/2005 3:25:56 PM PST by thecabal ("For all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!" --Aragorn)
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To: Brian Mosely
...Under state law... public employees can not use state resources to spread political messages...

There's no way any instructor at U of O has used his class time to pontificate about the war, or federal education funding or right-wing christians. Here's hoping the YR's strike back using this university stance as ammunition.

10 posted on 01/23/2005 3:26:24 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Brian Mosely
How dare they!!!!

I'd like to send some of my stickers to someone on campus. Please FReep mail me with your name and address.


http://TroopsSupport.com

11 posted on 01/23/2005 3:27:33 PM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! Now on to other things: http://VirginiaDreamTeam.com)
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To: Brian Mosely
So sad what the liberals have done to our country. It is so despicable and disgusting at times that one desires revenge.
12 posted on 01/23/2005 3:27:52 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: Brian Mosely

The elimination of old fashioned fisticuffs was the downfall of U.S. civilization........


13 posted on 01/23/2005 3:28:03 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: nwrep
After Iran and Syria, we need to liberate Eugene and Berkeley.

Don't leave out Madison, Gainsville, Austin.

14 posted on 01/23/2005 3:28:16 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Brian Mosely

It's always nice to see how Higher Ed supports freedom of speech and "diversity."


15 posted on 01/23/2005 3:28:33 PM PST by JennysCool (Rest in Peace, Great Carsoni!)
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To: Brian Mosely

I wonder if 97% of the U of O professors had to remove the yellowing "Che" posters from their university-owned office walls?


16 posted on 01/23/2005 3:29:01 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
I wonder exactly what "political message" a sticker to support the troops makes? The intolerance of these people is laughable.
17 posted on 01/23/2005 3:29:08 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Brian Mosely

Oregon....it figures! Our state is rampant with lunatics! It amazes me the petty things people find "offensive". Whatever happened to freedom of speech? I guess that doesn't apply to government employees. What is happening to this country?
Sometimes I just don't feel proud to be an American.....especially when I'm surrounded by idiots!


18 posted on 01/23/2005 3:30:07 PM PST by derllak
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To: Brian Mosely

If the truck belongs to the university I have no problem with the ban as long as they ban all bumper stickers.


19 posted on 01/23/2005 3:30:52 PM PST by Mears
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To: nwrep
After Iran and Syria, we need to liberate Eugene and Berkeley.

Let's just make them live fire MOUT training sites.

20 posted on 01/23/2005 3:32:07 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Brian Mosely

The entire university system needs to be reformed in this country. We must no longer allow that bubble to be a place of shelter for enemies and traitors.


21 posted on 01/23/2005 3:32:13 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: Brian Mosely

how insane


22 posted on 01/23/2005 3:34:18 PM PST by kanecorp
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To: Brian Mosely

How much you wanna bet that the school's policy is more lenient when it comes to rainbows or ribbons to promote Gay Pride days.


23 posted on 01/23/2005 3:35:30 PM PST by KidGlock (W-1)
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To: Brian Mosely
Time to email the President of U of O: pres@oregon.uoregon.edu
24 posted on 01/23/2005 3:37:05 PM PST by W04Man (Bush2004 Grassroots Campaign We Did It! Now on to other things: http://VirginiaDreamTeam.com)
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To: Brian Mosely
In other news, a student's right to drag the American flag behind his car was deemed to be free speech.
25 posted on 01/23/2005 3:37:41 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye ((Kerry is a flake))
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To: Brian Mosely
You don't have to scratch a lib too deep to find out what he is REALLY about.

In Maine, during the the last few years we have heard a Democrat state legislator express outright contempt for the troops and we have heard complaints that flying a US flag in Portland harbor would be "a fascist act".

Happily, both positions were eventually condemned, but hatred of the US is never far beneath the surface with these folks. It will pop up without much provocation.

26 posted on 01/23/2005 3:37:49 PM PST by Fido969
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To: mlc9852

I wonder what they would do if an AMERICAN FLAG decal was put in its place!


27 posted on 01/23/2005 3:38:11 PM PST by Not a 60s Hippy (They are SOCIALISTS - not progressives, elitists, liberals, etc.)
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To: Brian Mosely

28 posted on 01/23/2005 3:40:35 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Brian Mosely

Well, the UofO needs to close for a week and strip all the profs offices of political statements, too. That's state property, after all, and I'll wager there's Che posters, Green Party garbage and who-knows-what else covering the walls of their little fiefdom. My guess is the jacka$$ that complained is one of the worst offenders...


29 posted on 01/23/2005 3:40:55 PM PST by WestTexasWend
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To: Brian Mosely
...because both sides have valid arguments," said Terra Wegner, a U of O student.

This is the kind of answer to expect from today's college kids. All arguments are equally valid, and common sense goes out the window.

What kind of valid argument is there against giving support to American soldiers who are in harms way, and are somebody's son, husband, or daughter?

30 posted on 01/23/2005 3:41:34 PM PST by Noachian (We're all one judge away from tyranny.)
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To: Brian Mosely

Simple solution. If the University of Oregon refuses to "support our troops", the taxpayers - that's us - refuse to support the University of Oregon. NO MORE FEDERAL FUNDS. NONE.


31 posted on 01/23/2005 3:42:07 PM PST by jackbill
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To: Brian Mosely

"I support the troops, but I oppose the war"

</leftist speak>


32 posted on 01/23/2005 3:45:22 PM PST by Flyer (We are the pajamahadin ~ We know everything. ~ No forgeries no fakes no urban legends and no BS)
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To: Brian Mosely
"I don't think it's political i think they're just trying to support the guys who are putting their lives on the line for this country. be it right or wrong.. be it right or left," said Lattion.

According to many leftists:
If you support the troops who fight the war you must therefore support the administration that sent them to war. “Support the Troops” = Support President Bush.
33 posted on 01/23/2005 3:45:28 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Brian Mosely
I believe the Food and Forgage Act enacted during the Civil War has established that 'Support the Troops' is not a political statement. Support the Troops simply means that our country is committed to supporting those they have placed in harm's way regardless of its political divisions. Shame on the scum up there that understand so little of liberty and the American Way.
34 posted on 01/23/2005 3:45:56 PM PST by Cornpone
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To: Brian Mosely
I notice that the University of Oregon does not mind getting several million dollars in the latest Defense Department budget for research in their Brain, Biology, and Machine Science program.

Likewise, they don't mind taking $6 million grant from the Defense Dept. for nanotechnology research.

Cut off all defense funding to these jackasses.

The University of Oregon is a HYPOCRITE
35 posted on 01/23/2005 3:46:05 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: W04Man

This is an opportunity for Oregon FReepers to have a long car caravan with lots of stickers parading through campus.


36 posted on 01/23/2005 3:49:20 PM PST by doug from upland (THE RED STATES - celebrate a great American tradition)
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To: Brian Mosely

The liberals should just get their own bumber stickers saying "Destroy Our Troops".


37 posted on 01/23/2005 3:51:05 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: Cornpone

>>>I believe the Food and Forgage Act enacted during the Civil War has established that 'Support the Troops' is not a political statement.

This is a school. They don't teach history. They would have no way of knowing that.


38 posted on 01/23/2005 3:51:38 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MisterRepublican

Bumper, that is.


39 posted on 01/23/2005 3:53:28 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: W04Man
Here is my email:

Sir,

I notice that your University has decided that it is inappropriate to display "Support our Troops" sentiments on University vehicles.

I notice that your university does not seem to mind taking funding from the Defense Department for nanotechnology research or research in your Brain, Biology, and Machine Sciences program.

Its my opinion that Universities that will not support United States troops, or is embarassed by them, should not receive Defense Dept. funding.

I will write my Congresspersons, Senators, and the Executive Branch to voice my views on this and will spread this information to my friends and family.

I would like to note that Oregon National Guardsmen have been in Iraq serving with the National Guard brigade from my home state. They have suffered several casualties serving alongside soldiers from my state. If you are not proud to support them, I am. We would welcome them here if you do not.
40 posted on 01/23/2005 3:53:42 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Calpernia
"This is a school. They don't teach history. They would have no way of knowing that."

You're absolutely right. I overlooked the fact it was a university of lower learning.

41 posted on 01/23/2005 3:54:21 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: SteveMcKing

And I AM PAYING FEDERAL TAXES FOR THIS LUNACY???!!!
I agree...its time to cut their federal funding until they stop being an enemy within.


42 posted on 01/23/2005 3:55:43 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Cornpone

;)


43 posted on 01/23/2005 3:56:18 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Brian Mosely

Are tenured, university, professors ever given the use of vehicles, like a company car?

If so, do they have signs or stickers on the vehicles?


44 posted on 01/23/2005 3:56:20 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: Cornpone


An Oregon National Guardsman, who is not supported by the University of Oregon for political correctness reasons, arrests a suspected terrorist with the assistance of an Iraqi National Guardsman
45 posted on 01/23/2005 3:57:27 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Hobsonphile


46 posted on 01/23/2005 3:57:39 PM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields killed how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: jackbill

YES!!! The Oregon state legislature should mandate all state vehicles have a US Flag and a "support the troops" sticker!


47 posted on 01/23/2005 3:57:46 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Brian Mosely

The guy should put a "Save the Banana Slug" sticker on....and see if anyone complains.


48 posted on 01/23/2005 3:58:09 PM PST by Osage Orange ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Rodham Clinton)
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To: Brian Mosely

So if the stickers aren't allowed on university vehicles... everyone start wearing "Support Our Troops" ribbons on their shirts instead.


49 posted on 01/23/2005 3:58:18 PM PST by ViLaLuz
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To: thecabal

Bump


50 posted on 01/23/2005 4:00:12 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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