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Poll: Churchgoers more rigid
Boston Globe/Reuters ^ | 1/22/05 | Michael Conlon

Posted on 01/23/2005 3:49:44 PM PST by anniegetyourgun

CHICAGO -- In the past four years churchgoing Americans have grown increasingly intolerant of politicians making compromises on such issues as abortion and gay rights, according to a survey released yesterday.

At the same time, those polled said they were growing bolder about pushing their beliefs on others, even risking offending people.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: believerbashing; christians; mediabias; poll; reutersbias; tolerance
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Oh, the field day the headline writers must have had with this one. I'm sure they couldn't wait to come up with just the right words to stir up hatred and suspicion against people of faith. They choose "rigid"....playing into the Churchlady stereotype. Yeah, that's the ticket......

All the sudden the MSM has noticed that some churchgoers have closely held beliefs. And, lo and behold, they are daring to speak of them. Why, this never happens with non-churchgoers or the likes of Michael Newdow.....they would never be accused of "pushing their beliefs on others."

1 posted on 01/23/2005 3:49:45 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Good.


2 posted on 01/23/2005 3:51:28 PM PST by Cornpone (Aging Warrior -- Aim High -- Hit'em in the Head)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Churchgoers More Rigid? This got me confused with the other thread about Viagra being good for your heart!


3 posted on 01/23/2005 3:53:01 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: anniegetyourgun

Rooters headline for this article from yesterday, "Survey Finds Church-Going Americans Less Tolerant"


4 posted on 01/23/2005 3:53:34 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Yeah, the freaks at Reuters were probably cackling their humanist asses off when using descriptives like 'anal', 'pious', 'holier-than-thou', 'intolerant', 'fascist', and all the other sniveling bilge they spout before they settled on 'rigid'. Screw 'em.


5 posted on 01/23/2005 3:54:04 PM PST by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Rigid? It's called having convictions.


6 posted on 01/23/2005 3:54:08 PM PST by freedom4me (Bush's win was the cake. Tom Daschle's defeat was the icing)
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Why, this never happens with non-churchgoers or the likes of Michael Newdow.....they would never be accused of "pushing their beliefs on others."

No of course not, they call pushing their very degenerate beleifs on others "freedom".

7 posted on 01/23/2005 3:55:00 PM PST by stopem
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To: anniegetyourgun
Poll: Blacks more Rigid
Poll: Feminists more Rigid
Poll: Journalists more Rigid
Poll: Atheists more Rigid

Headlines you will never see in a liberal paper...

8 posted on 01/23/2005 3:55:19 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Heard that, ma'am.

The fact that the MSM thinks that this is some sort of new phenomenon is fascinating to me. I haven't changed, and none of "the folks" out here in the heartland have, either, as I see it. They just recently noticed that we exist, apparently.


9 posted on 01/23/2005 3:55:56 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: anniegetyourgun
If instead the poll had found that they tended to favor gun control, then the headline would have found churchgoers getting more "socially conscious".
10 posted on 01/23/2005 3:56:05 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: anniegetyourgun
It depends on where you go.

At humanistic teaching churches, they'll go along with everything. Bible based ... that's another story. We're getting sick and tired of having a horrendous agenda shoved down our throats and like the left, we are letting them know what WE think of the left and standing up for our rights for a change.
11 posted on 01/23/2005 3:56:31 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Aha....so this particular headline can be laid at the feet of the Boston Globe. That figures. I'm just not sure why Reuters didn't just take the plunge and say that "Church-Going Americans are Intolerant"


12 posted on 01/23/2005 3:56:39 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

More likely that they understand that those are the 10 Commandments not the 10 Suggestions.


13 posted on 01/23/2005 3:56:46 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: xm177e2

Ain't that the truth....


14 posted on 01/23/2005 3:59:51 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: AZ_Cowboy
"They just recently noticed that we exist, apparently.

Thank God for President Bush who helped to make them see we exist and are now the moral MAJORITY!!

15 posted on 01/23/2005 3:59:53 PM PST by stopem
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To: anniegetyourgun
It's not like the title couldn't be, "Church goers becoming more devout" or something similar.
16 posted on 01/23/2005 4:01:38 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Strangely, I saw a program today on PBS (of all places) lauding people of faith. It was a documentary on the Jewish chidren in the Netherlands who survived the Holocaust after being taken in by Catholic and Protestant families...how they risked the lives of their own families to defend others in need...how they stood up to evil.

I think it was a Canadian production because according to the documentary, the fabulous Canadian military liberated Europe from the Nazi's

along with the allies

17 posted on 01/23/2005 4:01:40 PM PST by Dutchgirl ("There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress."--Mark Twain)
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To: freedom4me
Related article. University officials more rigid.
18 posted on 01/23/2005 4:04:26 PM PST by Dutchgirl ("There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress."--Mark Twain)
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To: anniegetyourgun

"At the same time, those polled said they were growing bolder about pushing their beliefs on others, even risking offending people."

They mean like objecting to having your daughter given birth control by the perverts that run our public school systems.


19 posted on 01/23/2005 4:07:37 PM PST by still_learning (Don't you all miss Teresa Heinz Kerry?)
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To: anniegetyourgun
I'm a church goer, and I'd like to cick the butt of a lot of politicians in the West that keep telling me that because we are tolerant and becuase of human rights and democracy I must accept:

1. Gay Marriage
2. Feminism
3. Job Descrimination
4. Crime
5. Lower Income
6. Premarital Sex, Drugs, Non-respect
7. Less Security
8. Islamic invasion of my culture.
9. Governmental incompetence
10. Lower standards in education, industry, government


I don't think so and I hope more of us are going to start kicking butt.
20 posted on 01/23/2005 4:08:54 PM PST by seppel
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To: anniegetyourgun

Yes, Newdow and Michael Moore and the Follywood libs and Barbara Boxer and Ted "The Swimmer" Kennedy etc etc are certainly not rigid and don't push their beliefs on others, do they? It is amazing that these pathetic lib papers don't see the ridiculous position they've put themselves in.


21 posted on 01/23/2005 4:08:58 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: anniegetyourgun

the boston pot calling the kettle black.


22 posted on 01/23/2005 4:11:06 PM PST by ken21 (4 as much time as u spend on the internet, u cd have several college degrees--daisy noonan)
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To: xm177e2

I coulda sworn I saw the second headline someplace...Oh, no, that was "Frigid," not "Rigid." Nevermind...


23 posted on 01/23/2005 4:12:00 PM PST by G-dzilla (I live in Florida, I wish it wasn't so cold.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Poll: Church Goers STANDING FIRM, Not allowing others to pull them down the slippery slope.


24 posted on 01/23/2005 4:18:36 PM PST by Esther Ruth ( No one can serve two masters! Choose this day!! God or Man?)
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To: anniegetyourgun
At the same time, those polled said they were growing bolder about pushing their beliefs on others, even risking offending people.

Well, considering the way religious people have been treated over the last 30 years, I'm surprised it took this long for them to start pushing back, even in such a mild way.

25 posted on 01/23/2005 4:19:05 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Emmett McCarthy

If you experience a benediction lasting more than four hours, please consult a theologian.


26 posted on 01/23/2005 4:19:58 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel

I was glad to get a humorous reply. Afraid that everybody was taking the whole thing too seriously and I might have made people mad. I'm a serious, practicing Catholic which means, to me, that I know that I'm not a very good person so I can't get too self-righteous. I believe the best response to silly articles like the one at the top of this thread is to make jokes about it. Kinda like Reagan and GW Bush have succeeded in taking the media's nonsensical criticisms of them amd making better jokes out of them and telling them FIRST.


27 posted on 01/23/2005 4:28:26 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Or church-goers have decided they have had enough of the decadence and filth of Hollywood, loss of respect for families, loss of respect for morals, and have seen what can happen when we decided to take a stand. They really don't get it.
28 posted on 01/23/2005 4:29:18 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: AZ_Cowboy

Yep, and now they are trying to figure out what to say to us that they don't really believe, to get us to vote for them in the election.

Fat chance! We are too rigid. ;-)


29 posted on 01/23/2005 4:30:48 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: seppel

So, I'm guessing you are going to make some rigid comment over on the thread about government paying for sex changes for prisoners? Would it be intolerant of me to say "hell no, I don't want to pay for mutilation surgeries that prisoners want to elect?"


30 posted on 01/23/2005 4:31:21 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Yeah, sure. Like they REALLY asked "Do you push your beliefs on others?"

**rolling eyes**


31 posted on 01/23/2005 4:33:31 PM PST by Politicalmom ( Since Bush was selected in 2000, shouldn't he be able to run again in 2008?)
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To: seppel
Spell check is our fiend er friend
32 posted on 01/23/2005 4:34:55 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Dutchgirl

The Canadians were outstanding in WWII. Apparently, their misuse by the Brits killed off all the brave ones.


33 posted on 01/23/2005 4:37:26 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: Politicalmom

Can you say "projecting?" I knew you could!


34 posted on 01/23/2005 4:38:29 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Oh, like liberals aren't intolerant of conservative views?
This is the pot calling the kettle black.


35 posted on 01/23/2005 4:40:23 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: anniegetyourgun

Yesterday we weren't tolerant, today we are rigid. Glad to see these news organizations are independent of each other!

It is amusing. Forget the oceans, forget space, the Final frontier for Liberals is discovering these oddities known as "Christians". LOL


36 posted on 01/23/2005 4:44:09 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: anniegetyourgun

In the past four years churchgoing Americans have grown increasingly intolerant of politicians making compromises

Unlike mosques attendees who love our liberal politicians.


37 posted on 01/23/2005 4:48:01 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: nmh

I agree with you, also I believe at this time many more people are seeking and getting into God's Word. Not only knowing God's Word but following it.


38 posted on 01/23/2005 4:58:29 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: anniegetyourgun

We also are having great sex.


39 posted on 01/23/2005 5:00:35 PM PST by fatima (Go Eagles Go.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Survey Finds Church-Going Americans Less Tolerant

Here is the Reuter's original version before being sexed-up by the Boston Globe.

40 posted on 01/23/2005 5:06:33 PM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: Emmett McCarthy

Machiavelli said something like, "A public man can be corrupt, incompetent, cruel, vindictive, vacillating, self-seeking, weak, and stupid, and yet attain to the highest honours in the state; but if he is ridiculous, he is undone."

More and more, the Left (including the MSM) is approaching self-parody. The more that they are held up to ridicule, the less power they will wield. And if that means that I get a few yuks along the way, that's just a lagniappe.


41 posted on 01/23/2005 5:11:29 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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To: Viking2002

Sad to say, they may have gotten a few pointers from some folks on FR.


42 posted on 01/23/2005 5:14:14 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: Politicalmom

Didn't the memo get out??! Saying "Merry Christmas" automatically qualifies as pushing your views on others.


43 posted on 01/23/2005 5:16:07 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: fatima

Just wait until they find us raising our children in the fear and admonition of the Lord.


44 posted on 01/23/2005 5:17:21 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
"...even risking offending people."

Oh golly,
I didn't realize...
Guess I'll just have to quit voicing my opinion now.

[sorry}
[really]

45 posted on 01/23/2005 5:21:43 PM PST by norton (obviously - its Bush's fault)
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To: anniegetyourgun
"Churchgoers more rigid." True, and they have more children.
46 posted on 01/23/2005 5:23:16 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: anniegetyourgun

anniegetyourgun,Do as you feel is good for your children and if the rest follow fine.I was spoiled and in a Position to do TV for Children-did as I pleased.


47 posted on 01/23/2005 5:24:50 PM PST by fatima (Go Eagles Go.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I'm sure the gay activist and feminists are much more fanatical about their beliefs than churchgoers, but I'm sure the Boston Globe won't call them "rigid".


48 posted on 01/23/2005 5:28:29 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Churchgoers More Rigid? This got me confused with the other thread about Viagra being good for your heart!

viagra never came to my mind. I was thinking more along the lines of Aaron's rod.

49 posted on 01/23/2005 5:49:49 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Unam Sanctam

"Churchgoers More Rigid"

This title make me suspect:
a. The journalist who wrote it is gay
b. He is taking a bitch-swipe at middle America


50 posted on 01/23/2005 5:49:59 PM PST by rbg81
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