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JOHNNY CARSON BREAKS SILENCE: KNOCKS FOX FOR TOO MUCH PATRIOTISM

Posted on 01/24/2005 1:36:15 AM PST by kcvl

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX MON APRIL 29 2002 13:08:27 ET XXXXX

JOHNNY CARSON BREAKS SILENCE: KNOCKS FOX FOR TOO MUCH PATRIOTISM AT SUPER BOWL; THINKS BUSH IN ENRON COVER-UP

**Exclusive Details**

Don't look for Johnny Carson to make an appearance during NBC's 75TH Anniversary Special -- even though NBC head Bob Wright has made a personal plea.

"That ain't gonna happen," the retired Carson tells ESQUIRE magazine. "That ain't gonna happen."

The retired funnyman throws cold water on Wright's May Sweep dreams.

"He means well. I know NBC means well. But I am retired. I ain't going back on television. There's no need for me to go back. It's gonna be one of those self-congratulatory things. Look how good we are! I'm just not going to do it!"

Reporter Bill Zehme has been courting Carson for years and the relationship has paid off in spades: On May 8th, ESQUIRE rolls out an exhaustive exclusive interview with the press-shy Carson, running 10 pages.

Carson rips FOX for its Super Bowl red-white-and-blue coverage following 9/11: "When you look at the production -- give me a break!" Carson says. "Norman Mailer said something about patriotism being a nice thing, but just ease up a bit... It's nice to live in this country, but ease up!"

Carson takes on Bush: "Can you believe this Enron mess? I love how his good friend 'Kenny Boy' suddenly turned into 'Mr. Lay'... Give me a break! It will be a long time before we ever understand what's going on behind that story."

Carson has nightmare dreams that he still is host of the TONIGHT SHOW: "It's show time and I am going on -- and I've got nothing to say! I wake up in a sweat!"

He tells Zehme that the only time he wished he was back on the air and not retired was during the Monica Lewinsky mess.

"It's John. I regret it now," Carson said to Wright in a phone call. "I haven't seen such an abundance of material in my life!"

Developing...


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To: onyx

My grandfather suffered from emphysema for years and years. He died in 1984 from a heart attack at the age of 63.


101 posted on 01/24/2005 3:28:45 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: BigSkyFreeper


Right. A related heart attack.
Too much strain on the heart.

BTW, it's 22 here right now and I love it.


102 posted on 01/24/2005 3:31:27 AM PST by onyx
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Hey.....I love to smoke.....By the grace of god I haven't smoked today.....

.....kiss my ashtray....damn, did you think of that all by yourself?

103 posted on 01/24/2005 3:31:44 AM PST by bobbyd (Damn, I've been tagged.....)
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To: bobbyd
kiss my ashtray....damn, did you think of that all by yourself?

Of course.

104 posted on 01/24/2005 3:32:49 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: monkapotamus
It's true. I have heard that Jay Leno spends his weekends doing stand-up, and actually lives off of that money, while putting his Tonight Show pay in the bank. He's a workaholic and takes very little vacation time.

He DOES NOT spend his weekends doing standup. I checked several sites to check my understanding and Here's one that uncovers FOUR days he is appearing from now until March 18.

105 posted on 01/24/2005 3:33:55 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: onyx

22 sounds balmy to me. :) Supposed to be in the upper 40's here today. Looking forward to it. Might scrape off the ice and slush on the front walk today.


106 posted on 01/24/2005 3:34:10 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: onyx

Thank you for your
Admonition because it is
stupid on it's face but in this
meter it must be inspired


107 posted on 01/24/2005 3:35:08 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: BigSkyFreeper
don't slip and bust your ash!

Take Care

108 posted on 01/24/2005 3:36:41 AM PST by bobbyd (Damn, I've been tagged.....)
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To: BigSkyFreeper


Same here: High "could" get into 50's.
I am really surprised to find I like the cold air.


109 posted on 01/24/2005 3:36:52 AM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: kcvl

The Aviator just came out about 6 weeks ago.


110 posted on 01/24/2005 3:37:47 AM PST by silent_jonny (LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF ALL THOSE THAT THREATEN IT)
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To: onyx

You get used to the cold weather once you spend some time in it. :)


111 posted on 01/24/2005 3:39:18 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: kcvl

Rest In Peace Johnny. You are an irreplacable American treasure.


112 posted on 01/24/2005 3:40:10 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker
The keyword on that link you provided is "available" tickets. The fact remains that Jay Leno does make "good money" off of his standup appearances (a correct point by "weegee" which you ignorantly mocked) and he does live off of his standup income.

"He DOES NOT spend his weekends doing standup. I checked several sites to check my understanding and Here's one that uncovers FOUR days he is appearing from now until March 18."

113 posted on 01/24/2005 3:53:52 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: West Coast Conservative

Johnny was a class act. Of all the comics doing late night over the years, Johnny never failed to have me ROFLMAO.
Rest in Peace Mr. Carson. Your humor was priceless.


114 posted on 01/24/2005 3:54:23 AM PST by Mustng959 (In loving memory of those that gave their all to preserve our Freedoms!)
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To: monkapotamus

Show me his complete standup show schedule and I'll admit I'm wrong.


115 posted on 01/24/2005 3:57:51 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker

It is true that Leno has not touched his Tonight Show money. He has about a hundred gigs, corporate conventions etc. each year that pay an average 100,000. That is what he lives on.


116 posted on 01/24/2005 4:34:00 AM PST by jimbergin
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To: onyx

It seems to me that it's a safe assumption to make that folks in the entertainment biz are liberals. But that doesn't factor in for me, unless they take it to the point of agenda. I never got that sense from Johnny. Now, Cher, Streisand, Ronstad, et al.....I'm sick to death of hearing their politics....and their singing.


117 posted on 01/24/2005 4:59:13 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: kcvl

What is so fascinating about Tanzania? I never realized it as a frequent vacation trip......


118 posted on 01/24/2005 5:09:26 AM PST by benice
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To: kcvl

If there are comments here you don't like, take your own advice and don't read them.


119 posted on 01/24/2005 5:24:12 AM PST by clyde asbury
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To: Barlowmaker; Route101
Johnny Carson was a loose cannon.......

A rabble rousing malcontent. I never trusted him, I'm glad you didn't either.

Same with my barber. The guy is all over the political map. Not sure he should be trusted with a set of clippers.

120 posted on 01/24/2005 5:38:31 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Barlowmaker

I suspected you were being sarcastic, btw, which I now see you've addressed exhaustively in later posts.


121 posted on 01/24/2005 5:46:21 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Barlowmaker

Leno does between 100-150 corporate standup gigs a year. Apparently at about $100,000 a pop.

That's 10 to 15 million a year.

Which is why he's able to bank his Tonight Show salary and live off of his standup money.

And yes, he admits he's a workaholic.

Greg


122 posted on 01/24/2005 6:46:47 AM PST by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: Simmy2.5

Agreed, that is why I quit watching Leno, and Letterman, and SNL all hang their politics on their sleaves.


123 posted on 01/24/2005 6:53:14 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: onyx; kcvl

That looks like prednisone.


124 posted on 01/24/2005 6:57:26 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: kcvl

I heard Carl Reiner talking about it yesterday; evidently the son was leaning on a car, taking pictures of the ocean and the car slid into the canyon. Or something close to that; I had always heard he was taking pictures while driving on the Pacific Coast Highway and ran off the edge because he was taking pictures while he was driving.


125 posted on 01/24/2005 7:09:25 AM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: Howlin

I don't think so...
not when compared to the bloat
and distortion of Jerry Lewis's face
a year ago when he was on that medicine.

I think Carson's face looks good and only
see a small pot belly...lol... which I
was sort of happy to see, as I feared he
might have grown thin and gaunt.

He was 79 years old and it's apparent
he thoroughly enjoyed his retirement.
We should all be that fortunate. :)


126 posted on 01/24/2005 7:17:02 AM PST by onyx ("First you look to God, then to Fox News" -- Denny Crane, Republican...lol.)
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To: kcvl

I know this is evil of me to say at such a time as this but that man sure trashed Bush this election.



23 posted on 01/23/2005 2:38:38 PM CST by BellStar ( I am going to the Inauguration after all!)


127 posted on 01/24/2005 7:18:06 AM PST by BellStar ( I went to the Inauguration after all!)
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To: djf

Due to circumstances beyond my control, I was exposed to the TV and news all weekend. From the coverage, you would have thought Carson's death was the most important happening of the whole weekend (besides the blizzard). I am saddened by his death, but I don't think that the Second Coming would get as much attention.


128 posted on 01/24/2005 7:20:06 AM PST by technochick99 (Self defense is a BASIC human right.)
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To: SeaBiscuit; kcvl
Drugdge either has bad taste of bad timing as Johnny Carson just passed away.

I'm sorry kcvl, but it is you who are displaying bad taste in this instance. The Drudge story is from two years ago. Today is not the day to bring it up again.

Let's show some character and allow the dead to rest in peace, regardless of whether or not his views differed from our own.

129 posted on 01/24/2005 7:27:48 AM PST by TigerTale ("I don't care. I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me.")
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To: djf
"When a person dies, it's time to respectfully (try) to remember the good things about them."

Amen to that.

I remember my fellow-Nebraskan as a guy who made me laugh.

And as a guy who skewered politicians from both parties -- when they earned it.

Rest in Peace, Johnny.

130 posted on 01/24/2005 7:49:35 AM PST by chs68
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To: kcvl

Johnny Carson served in the US Navy during WW 2.

He never struck me as a lefty although he made fun of both sides during election time.

Carson had the unique ability to keep his politics to himself, something that today's "Entertainers" would do well to learn.

He was a good egg. Apparently he had real trouble just being himself when the cameras weren't on him. He lost a son to a car accident some years back. I wish him peace.


131 posted on 01/24/2005 8:05:04 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Senator, we can have this discussion in any way that you would like.")
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To: TigerTale; kcvl

Drudge has is posted TODAY at his site, too.

Sheesh

Stop bashing kcvl for posting it.


132 posted on 01/24/2005 9:51:12 AM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper; kcvl
Drudge has is posted TODAY at his site, too.

My mistake.

I still think today is not the day to re-hash this. Others obviously disagree.

133 posted on 01/24/2005 10:20:29 AM PST by TigerTale ("I don't care. I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me.")
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To: kcvl

It's playing at every house in Nashville right now.


134 posted on 01/24/2005 10:39:40 AM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: kcvl

I don't care what Johnny said in the past, he's stll a great man and doesn't deserve to be trashed like this.


135 posted on 01/24/2005 10:42:10 AM PST by John Lenin (You have to be a lunatic yourself to appeal to the RAT base)
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To: onyx

The Reagans were friends of many Hollywood lefties, they could see past their politics.


136 posted on 01/24/2005 10:43:29 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Howlin; kcvl

Ed McM. was also talking about it last night, maybe it was the LKL show.

Yes, the son had parked on a cliff overlooking the ocean, so he could take some photos.

Ed's son also died in his 30s, he was saying, from cancer, and the very first person to call him was Johnny.

I remember when Johnny's son died in '91 -- at the end of the Tonight show after that, they showed a photo of the setting sun over the Pacific, probably one of his photos.

It was said that Johnny never got over his son's death (who would?), and that had something to do with his retiring, the next year. It must have been very difficult to go on after that, making jokes every night.


137 posted on 01/24/2005 1:17:45 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: kcvl

I don't think Johnny boy will have much more to say, unless it's from the other side of eternity, wherever he is.


138 posted on 01/24/2005 1:19:39 PM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: kcvl

I saw on fox that the photo in question was taken on Jan 2, when he went to that movie.


139 posted on 01/24/2005 1:21:09 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: TigerTale
Let's show some character

Let's do; all of us; stop preaching. It's on Drudge, too.

140 posted on 01/24/2005 1:23:01 PM PST by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- and a Bush Republican!!!!)
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To: dfwgator
The Reagans were friends of many Hollywood lefties, they could see past their politics.

Not to forget that RR was a dem until 1961 or so. He had many long-standing friendships from decades before that.

I also think people were more likely to ignore political persuasion back then. We seem much more divided today.

141 posted on 01/24/2005 1:24:26 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Howlin
It's on Drudge, too.

Already acknowledged in post 133.

142 posted on 01/24/2005 1:51:35 PM PST by TigerTale ("I don't care. I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me.")
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To: kcvl

>> Carson takes on Bush: "Can you believe this Enron mess? I love how his good friend 'Kenny Boy' suddenly turned into 'Mr. Lay'.

I had no idea Johnny was so dumb when it came to political matters (unless he was misquoted).


143 posted on 01/24/2005 2:09:16 PM PST by PhilipFreneau (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. -- Psalms 14: 1, 53:1)
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To: PhilipFreneau

Carson ripped into George Bush a couple of years ago in an interview with Playboy or some other mag.


144 posted on 01/25/2005 4:51:18 AM PST by Route101
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Johnny Carson was an atheist. He was a devout believer in the king of skeptics: James Randi. Mr. Carson believed in NOTHING. He even willed half a million dollars to The James Randi Foundation. Johnny was a pretty quirky guy. It is said he suffered from mental issues. His “medication” of choice was years, and years and years of heavy cocaine use, not to mention other heavy duty drugs he “played” around with. Johnny was one strange dude!

PS

I hate Jay Leno, but I don’t think he’s a mess like Johnny was.


145 posted on 10/07/2007 4:35:09 AM PDT by CynicsRule
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