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JOHNNY CARSON BREAKS SILENCE: KNOCKS FOX FOR TOO MUCH PATRIOTISM

Posted on 01/24/2005 1:36:15 AM PST by kcvl

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JOHNNY CARSON BREAKS SILENCE: KNOCKS FOX FOR TOO MUCH PATRIOTISM AT SUPER BOWL; THINKS BUSH IN ENRON COVER-UP

**Exclusive Details**

Don't look for Johnny Carson to make an appearance during NBC's 75TH Anniversary Special -- even though NBC head Bob Wright has made a personal plea.

"That ain't gonna happen," the retired Carson tells ESQUIRE magazine. "That ain't gonna happen."

The retired funnyman throws cold water on Wright's May Sweep dreams.

"He means well. I know NBC means well. But I am retired. I ain't going back on television. There's no need for me to go back. It's gonna be one of those self-congratulatory things. Look how good we are! I'm just not going to do it!"

Reporter Bill Zehme has been courting Carson for years and the relationship has paid off in spades: On May 8th, ESQUIRE rolls out an exhaustive exclusive interview with the press-shy Carson, running 10 pages.

Carson rips FOX for its Super Bowl red-white-and-blue coverage following 9/11: "When you look at the production -- give me a break!" Carson says. "Norman Mailer said something about patriotism being a nice thing, but just ease up a bit... It's nice to live in this country, but ease up!"

Carson takes on Bush: "Can you believe this Enron mess? I love how his good friend 'Kenny Boy' suddenly turned into 'Mr. Lay'... Give me a break! It will be a long time before we ever understand what's going on behind that story."

Carson has nightmare dreams that he still is host of the TONIGHT SHOW: "It's show time and I am going on -- and I've got nothing to say! I wake up in a sweat!"

He tells Zehme that the only time he wished he was back on the air and not retired was during the Monica Lewinsky mess.

"It's John. I regret it now," Carson said to Wright in a phone call. "I haven't seen such an abundance of material in my life!"

Developing...


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To: BigSkyFreeper


Darn right, and let that be a lesson for you:
ALWAYS read my erudite comments BEFORE posting
your own! :)


51 posted on 01/24/2005 2:41:56 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx

I've heard Rush Limbaugh say it's a really good movie, all about Howard Hughes, which is DiCaprio's character. I'm waiting for it to come out on DVD.


52 posted on 01/24/2005 2:42:16 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: onyx

I've got to get ready for work and will catch him on the radio. There are some web links you can listen too. WTNT for one. I'm sure he'll still be talking about his trip to DC and his interview with the Veep also. Gotta go.


53 posted on 01/24/2005 2:43:08 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: onyx

You help me form my sharp opinions. LOL :) *bows in your presence*


54 posted on 01/24/2005 2:43:09 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Carson never forgot hometown
By Jenny Welp Journal staff writer



Though Johnny Carson was known for slipping into his hometown of Norfolk, Neb., and leaving before many knew he was there, one does not have to look far to find proof of his generosity.

"Everything from art to education to health - every aspect I think he's touched tremendously," said Don Wisnieski, city council member. "It's not one thing. He's touched every aspect. Everybody in Norfolk has benefited from him in one way, shape or form."

The former host of "The Tonight Show" lived in Norfolk from age 8 until he graduated from high school. However, his connection to the community continued for a lifetime.
American Family Inn

Denny Reeves remembers Carson interviewing celebrities and then relating their comments back to his positive memories growing up in Norfolk. Carson came back to the community for several weeks in the early 1980s for the television special "Johnny Goes Home" about growing up in small-town America -- about Norfolk and the values he learned there.

"It was the best public relations anybody could get," Reeves said.

But Carson gave more to Norfolk than publicity. City Administrator Michael Nolan said it was conservative to estimate that the celebrity donated well over $5 million in the community over the years.

Since a merger in 1996 formed Faith Regional Health Services hospital, Carson donated about $1.5 million -- mostly to the cancer center in honor of his parents. Without that generosity, northeast Nebraska residents would have to drive two additional hours for radiation and medical oncology services, reported Bob Driewer, CEO of the hospital.

Carson also topped off a 1996 campaign for a business and industry training facility by donating $1 million to Northeast Community College. With a gift of that size, the first question is usually how big the donor wants the letters of his or her name on the building, said Dr. Bill Path, community college president. But Path said Carson declined the offer to name the Lifelong Learning Center in his honor.

"He said, 'What you can do is you can name one of the rooms inside the building after my favorite high school teacher," Path said. A room was named after Fay Gordon, the teacher who Carson took the time to visit on her 100th birthday, city residents said.

Carson's generosity touched the community for high profile projects like the high school theater and lesser known ones like repairing the senior center. Nolan said the senior center struggled for years because its roof design and duct work meant the water pipes froze every time there was severely cold weather. But then someone asked Carson to help, and he provided the money to take care of the problem.

"That's just the way he was," Nolan said. "I don't know of any occasion when anyone asked him to help out on a project that he didn't. He was generous to a fault."

For the Elkhorn Valley Museum and Research Center, Carson cleaned out his office and donated almost all of his memorabilia, said Betty Bohac, museum director. She said the exhibit features everything from awards to framed magazine covers to photos of him with celebrities.

Carson did not ask for recognition for his charity, but community members wanted to honor him in some way. The city changed the name of the road where his old house still stands to Johnny Carson Boulevard, and billboards at the main entrances to town say "H-e-e-e-r-e's Norfolk! Proud Hometown of Johnny Carson."

"Everything that he has done for this community has just been overwhelming," said Sue Kaspar-Beckman, city council member. "There is no way we could say thank you enough."


http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2005/01/24/news/local/7a0ae9acb479746886256f930019b375.txt


55 posted on 01/24/2005 2:45:09 AM PST by kcvl
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To: RandallFlagg

I wasn't replying specifically to you. Just posting back to all the people in the thread for their comments.


56 posted on 01/24/2005 2:46:31 AM PST by SpyGuy (Liberalism is slow societal suicide. And screw political correctness: Islam is the Religion of Death)
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To: kcvl

There is a very rare, as far as I know unavailable in video, of Carson's guest interview with JFK assassination researcher Jim Garrison. An audio file of parts of it is somewhere available on the net ( sniff around JFK Lancer)

A very solemn, strange episode. I need to dig up the excerpts and listen to it again.


57 posted on 01/24/2005 2:47:28 AM PST by wolficatZ (Never forget the grim battles our brave US soldiers and Allies fought in 1945 - 60 years ago)
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To: Barlowmaker
BFD that you didn't trust him.
Since when is "trust" a prerequisite for comedians?

IIRC, Johnny once hosted a show called
"Who Do You Trust?"
58 posted on 01/24/2005 2:48:03 AM PST by onyx
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The Aviator is playing in theaters now, too.


59 posted on 01/24/2005 2:49:09 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: All
****** My dad died of emphysema so I don't wish that on anyone. ****** ____________________________________________________

When I was 16, I watched my moms mom die a slow, agonizing death due to emphysema.....Damn sad part is.....I just watched my mom die the same sad death.......

Something is gonna kill ya....if you smoke....for you and your familys' sake.......I hope a bus hits you.....

defend your right to smoke all you want......it's a bitch when you want to breathe

and can't....

gasp

60 posted on 01/24/2005 2:49:49 AM PST by bobbyd (Damn, I've been tagged.....)
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To: weegee
Jay makes real good money off of his standup gigs. He still makes appearances.

Standup gigs? LMAO. Leno doesn't do standup gigs as a livelihood anymore. Leno slogged through the standup cesspool for 20 years in the whimsical dream that he'd one day get the Tonight Show job. The best gig in the world. The Tonight Show is a fulltime obligation with enough stress, demands and creative expression for any man.

I'll ping you when the Leno/Letterman/O'Brien road show gets underway.

61 posted on 01/24/2005 2:49:51 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: ValerieUSA

So, that picture of him would be around early or late 2004 do you think?


62 posted on 01/24/2005 2:50:18 AM PST by kcvl
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To: bobbyd

I know exactly what you mean. It was horrible!


63 posted on 01/24/2005 2:51:21 AM PST by kcvl
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To: onyx

Read it again. I refuse to put a sarcasm tag at the end of my comments.


64 posted on 01/24/2005 2:52:26 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: SpyGuy
I wasn't replying specifically to you. Just posting back to all the people in the thread for their comments.

Well, I only commented about Sam Kinison. I know nothing about Carson and even less about Leno.
I just don't want anyone to think I was getting into any arguments.


I still miss Sam.
65 posted on 01/24/2005 2:52:27 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save bucks and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: kcvl
Carson takes on Bush: "Can you believe this Enron mess? I love how his good friend 'Kenny Boy' suddenly turned into 'Mr. Lay'... Give me a break! It will be a long time before we ever understand what's going on behind that story."

I have remembered him saying this ever since he said it. I won't be too harsh in light of his death, but it is confounding that everyone was so quick to connect Bush to Lay, when the rise and beginning of the fall of Enron happened on Clinton's watch. When did Ken Lay stay at the White House? During the Clinton years. Who prosecuted the Enron principals? The Bush DOJ. But, by God, Bush gave him a nickname, so it's a Bush scandal.
66 posted on 01/24/2005 2:53:13 AM PST by Rastus
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To: kcvl

THAT is a worthwhile legacy. God bless Johnny Carson for being real.


67 posted on 01/24/2005 2:53:23 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: kcvl

December 2004 probably


68 posted on 01/24/2005 2:54:47 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: kcvl

Rarely will a democrat donate without fanfare.
I am still of the opinion that Johnny was NOT a lib
or even left of center. His midwest roots indicate
he's one of us, plus his viewing of Fox News Channel.

Add to that his close friendship with David Letterman,
who my daughter insists is a staunch Republican as told
to her by a mutual close friend of DL's.


69 posted on 01/24/2005 2:55:05 AM PST by onyx
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To: kcvl

Very, very late. The Aviator opened somewhere between Thanksgiving and Christmas.


70 posted on 01/24/2005 2:55:08 AM PST by Rastus
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To: leadpenny
There are some web links you can listen too. WTNT for one.

COOL. I didn't think he was carried on the internet.

71 posted on 01/24/2005 2:57:55 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: Rastus

Yep, ENRON is a Clinton stinkyfish. That's why there is little in-depth coverage of the scandal following the initial headline splash worldwide. Below the surface we find Clinton and cronies..... sshhhhhhhh


72 posted on 01/24/2005 2:59:53 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: BigSkyFreeper

If you can connect to Imus's radio show,
please FR mail the link to me. I am using
Hildy's laptop computer and it's a dial up
and awkward for me regardless.

PLUS, altho downloaded, I cannot log into/onto
the other site! Yikes. I am miserable about that.


73 posted on 01/24/2005 3:00:46 AM PST by onyx
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The Ciggie Gnatzies can kiss my ashtray. They don't smoke, neither do I, so leave me the hell alone. I will defend smokers rights to smoke til the day I die.


74 posted on 01/24/2005 3:01:54 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: onyx

Your wraparound is messed up. Every one of your posts looks like epic verse.


75 posted on 01/24/2005 3:03:17 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: BigSkyFreeper

This smoker thanks you.


76 posted on 01/24/2005 3:04:51 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save bucks and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Kiss your ashtray! LOL!
And ditto regarding tobacco use.


77 posted on 01/24/2005 3:05:05 AM PST by onyx
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To: kcvl

Anyone remember the "Johnny Carbon" skit by Firesign Theatre?

With the Ed McMahon dummy that sat on the couch and yelled "Hi Yo, Ha Ha Ha Ha" at random moments?

There's a ton of Firesign material out on the Internet, but Johnny Carbon seems lost to comedic history. I can't find mention of him anywhere.


78 posted on 01/24/2005 3:05:59 AM PST by angkor
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To: Barlowmaker

It's not messed up, that's what word wrap does when you turn
the feature off.


79 posted on 01/24/2005 3:07:06 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: Barlowmaker


Which they are.


80 posted on 01/24/2005 3:07:49 AM PST by onyx
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To: BigSkyFreeper

We're all Chaucer!


81 posted on 01/24/2005 3:07:51 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker
Your wraparound is messed up. Every one of your posts looks like epic verse.

It adds pizazz. At a glance, I don't know if onyx is talking about Johnny Carson, or about returning home to Ithaca.
82 posted on 01/24/2005 3:08:19 AM PST by Rastus
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To: Rastus


LOL!


83 posted on 01/24/2005 3:09:25 AM PST by onyx
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I couldn't care less who smokes as long as it's not my family. If people want to die sucking on air, go for it. They all think it won't happen to them. The family is left to suction the gunk out of their throats while their lungs are filling up and drowning them.


84 posted on 01/24/2005 3:09:30 AM PST by kcvl
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To: weegee

Big friggin deal ..I dont think that makes him a Lib by any means.He always came off as a regular guy and a good American.RIP Johnny ..Thanx for all the laughs..


85 posted on 01/24/2005 3:09:42 AM PST by hineybona
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To: Rastus

JohnRob is working on a hieroglyphic format.


86 posted on 01/24/2005 3:10:49 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: dwilli

Just who do you consider funny?

Steinfield show


87 posted on 01/24/2005 3:11:40 AM PST by garylmoore (God Bless you W, you have prevailed.)
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To: RandallFlagg

My grandmother hasn't smoked in 40 years, she defends smokers rights to smoke. I've got an uncle on my dad's side of the family that hasn't smoked in 25 years and he defends smokers rights to smoke. My folks and I both smoked for years (I smoked for over fifteen years) and nothing annoys me more than a Cig Gnatzie.


88 posted on 01/24/2005 3:12:05 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: Barlowmaker

Jerkoff


89 posted on 01/24/2005 3:13:26 AM PST by hineybona
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To: hineybona

What is your problem? It's okay for you to call people names just not anyone else express an opinion about Carson?!


90 posted on 01/24/2005 3:16:02 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Barlowmaker

If he gets it up and running, let me know and I'll get tealc to ping his Stargate: SG-1 list.

By the way, my last post got me thinking: what if there was a modern version of the Odyssey set in America, with the guy starting out in Troy, MI and working his way home to Ithaca, NY? Probably a bad idea, and it probably has already been done.

Anyway, that's some early morning rambling for ya.


91 posted on 01/24/2005 3:16:28 AM PST by Rastus
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To: hineybona
Jerkoff

Sarcasm blind!

92 posted on 01/24/2005 3:17:09 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: Barlowmaker
It's true. I have heard that Jay Leno spends his weekends doing stand-up, and actually lives off of that money, while putting his Tonight Show pay in the bank. He's a workaholic and takes very little vacation time.

"Standup gigs? LMAO. Leno doesn't do standup gigs as a livelihood anymore. Leno slogged through the standup cesspool for 20 years in the whimsical dream that he'd one day get the Tonight Show job. The best gig in the world. The Tonight Show is a fulltime obligation with enough stress, demands and creative expression for any man."

93 posted on 01/24/2005 3:19:45 AM PST by monkapotamus
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To: hineybona; Route101
Freeper "Route 101" owes me for all this abuse and unfair treatment I'm suffering on his/her behalf.

Hey! I'm finally a victim! I'm on the road to being one of the cool kids.

94 posted on 01/24/2005 3:21:32 AM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: BigSkyFreeper; kcvl

I had a father-in-law who suffered from emphysema,
but I think he died of a heart attack, which was,
of course, brought on by the emphysema. I recall
that he was hooked to oxygen for the last two years of his life.


95 posted on 01/24/2005 3:21:39 AM PST by onyx
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To: All


"Jesus Christ Superstar."

"What my neighbor said when his wife rented a Molly Shannon movie."
96 posted on 01/24/2005 3:22:45 AM PST by Rastus
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To: monkapotamus

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97 posted on 01/24/2005 3:22:56 AM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl

I dont think it very classy to be attacking the guy while his body isn't even cold yet . The 2 comments sited are #1 no big deal #2 not a real indication of the man's patriotism .


98 posted on 01/24/2005 3:26:34 AM PST by hineybona
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To: Barlowmaker
You have been summarily spanked so many times
that I am all but certain you enjoy 'em.
99 posted on 01/24/2005 3:27:15 AM PST by onyx
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To: hineybona
Did you read the entire thread. It is more than just one article. No one is attacking him, BTW. Mind your own business and if you don't like it, don't read it. Others have a right to say what they think of Carson without your permission.

I see you are still following the thread. You are either interested or are following people around complaining.

100 posted on 01/24/2005 3:28:39 AM PST by kcvl
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