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Bush's Devil Hand Symbol Shocks European Viewers
Houston Chronicle ^ | 1/21/05 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/24/2005 3:11:14 AM PST by M 91 u2 K

'Hook 'em, 'horns' gesture lost in translation Associated Press

OSLO, Norway — President Bush's "Hook 'em, 'horns" salute got lost in translation in Norway, where shocked people interpreted his hand gesture during his inauguration as a salute to Satan.

That's what it means in the Nordics when you throw up the right hand with the index and pinky fingers raised, a gesture popular among heavy metal groups and their fans in the region.

"Shock greeting from Bush daughter," a headline in the Norwegian Internet newspaper Nettavisen said above a photograph of Bush's daughter Jenna, smiling and showing the sign.

For Texans, the gesture is a sign of love for the University of Texas Longhorns, whose fans are known to shout out "Hook 'em, 'horns!" at sporting events.

Bush, a former Texas governor, and his family made the sign to greet the Longhorn marching band as it passed during the inaugural parade through Washington during Thursday's festivities, Norway's largest newspaper, Verdens Gang, explained to its readers.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; devil; europe; eurotrash; euroweenies; hookemhorns; inauguration; satan; w2
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'Hook 'em, 'horns' gesture lost in translation

Seems with Euroweenies everything gets lost, such as their soveriegnty, their will to fight, their intelligence, and nearly everthing else.

1 posted on 01/24/2005 3:11:15 AM PST by M 91 u2 K
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To: M 91 u2 K

everthing=everything


2 posted on 01/24/2005 3:11:57 AM PST by M 91 u2 K
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To: M 91 u2 K

The Norweinies need to get out more.


3 posted on 01/24/2005 3:12:58 AM PST by exnavy
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To: M 91 u2 K

anyone got a pic?


4 posted on 01/24/2005 3:13:49 AM PST by Capitalism2003
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To: Capitalism2003
These are the scary and offensive gestures of our President and his family


5 posted on 01/24/2005 3:21:43 AM PST by M 91 u2 K
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To: M 91 u2 K

As a UT alumni, this is truly not only hysterically funny, but the epitome of Shakespeare's "Much ado about nothing".


6 posted on 01/24/2005 3:21:53 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Gee, I hope they get can over it--don't want Norway mad at us.


7 posted on 01/24/2005 3:21:57 AM PST by silent_jonny (LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF ALL THOSE THAT THREATEN IT)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Guess it's time for a few..."know what the hell were talk'in about" classes in Norway......


8 posted on 01/24/2005 3:23:08 AM PST by Route101
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To: Capitalism2003

Now you say that but, a couple of years ago I saw Ozzy Osbourne interviewed on British TV a clip was shown of a US TV preacher (dunno his name) complaining about exactly the same hand signal which the fans apparantly use at Ozzy concerts. I think he said something like,

"...and I saw forty thousand teenagers make the sign of the devil with their hands...", then he did the hand signal.

Maybe the concert was in Texas and they were all Longhorns fans?


9 posted on 01/24/2005 3:25:18 AM PST by Still in Denial
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To: Still in Denial

Oops, sorry, I replied to the wrong post


10 posted on 01/24/2005 3:26:45 AM PST by Still in Denial
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To: M 91 u2 K

I do believe it is a sign language attempt at "I love you".


11 posted on 01/24/2005 3:28:54 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: M 91 u2 K

12 posted on 01/24/2005 3:35:07 AM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: M 91 u2 K

So you guys assume that people in Norway would know the sign of the Texas University Longhorns?
I suppose everyone outside the US (or even Texas, dunno) can only assume that he is making a Satan's hand gesture for fun.


14 posted on 01/24/2005 3:36:41 AM PST by teezle
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To: M 91 u2 K

PS: Not that, when I would be a reporter, I would spend one phrase about in the newspaper...


15 posted on 01/24/2005 3:38:08 AM PST by teezle
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To: M 91 u2 K

terrifying...


16 posted on 01/24/2005 3:39:30 AM PST by Capitalism2003
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To: M 91 u2 K
The Gator chop in Norway = I will crush your head in a vice. T he Seminole war chant in Norway = ahhahhahahahahhhhhh = I just but my tongue
17 posted on 01/24/2005 3:42:57 AM PST by Defendingliberty (www.456th.com)
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To: M 91 u2 K

In 50 years, when this handsign isn't associated with the Texas Longhorns anymore, urban legends and conspiracy theories will florish around these pictures.


18 posted on 01/24/2005 3:43:38 AM PST by floridarolf
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To: DB

No, in ASL this is about as far from "love" as "seat" is from "sh*t".

Even further, in fact, because that is the ASL for sh*t in some regions.


19 posted on 01/24/2005 3:45:37 AM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Amazing how our press and "leading" classes can be humiliating for us Europeans at times. But who cares of what they're hurted by anyway?? America'd better ignore them. Rest assured that ordinary guys here just love the "hook'em horns" and all that blunt next-door guy style of that good Dubya of yours! These haughty rabbits are just disgusting. Sad to think what we were and what we are now.

Have fun, squash all tyrants and let them weasels look for new ways to conceal envy!! God bless


20 posted on 01/24/2005 3:45:46 AM PST by fabrizio (W 04 - a huge "Dubya rocks, YEE-HAW " from Italy !!)
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To: Still in Denial
"...and I saw forty thousand teenagers make the sign of the devil with their hands...", then he did the hand signal.

And I did the same thing during Ozzy (and other) concerts during the '80s.
It's rather more akin to halloween than a profession of belief in anything.

21 posted on 01/24/2005 3:47:03 AM PST by humblegunner (And who knows what else?)
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To: M 91 u2 K
That's the "Rock On" symbol.

I wonder if they are fans of Megas XLR...

22 posted on 01/24/2005 3:48:04 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: floridarolf

I'd wager that the Longhorns will be around long after the last European metal-head goes to Valhalla.


23 posted on 01/24/2005 3:50:10 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Nataku X

I thought it was sign for "bull".


24 posted on 01/24/2005 3:52:12 AM PST by DB (©)
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Alex Jones is having a field day with this at infowars.com

Illuminati Devil Hand Signals Prevalent Throughout Inauguration

The first image Represents the horned god of witchcraft. Pan or Cernunnos. Note the thumb under the fingers and given by the right hand. The next image is a sign of recognition between those in the Occult. When pointed at someone it is meant to place a curse. Note the thumb over the fingers and given by the left hand.

25 posted on 01/24/2005 3:56:20 AM PST by M 91 u2 K
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To: M 91 u2 K

They may not know Aggie hand signs, but the women are beautiful over there in Norwegia.


26 posted on 01/24/2005 3:59:23 AM PST by spodefly (Yo, homey ... Is that my briefcase?)
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To: DB

No, bull would use a different hand shape & movement & location. Sometimes that sign is used in the context of BS (most), other times in the context of S. Either way it's a bad word & not a sign a deaf person of good repute would use...


27 posted on 01/24/2005 4:00:30 AM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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To: M 91 u2 K

What do the Europeans care about religion?


28 posted on 01/24/2005 4:00:31 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: DB

Actually, that IS the sign of the Devil in sign language, but it is a regionalism first and foremost in the hearts and minds of the Bush clan, I'm sure.


29 posted on 01/24/2005 4:06:42 AM PST by MortMan (Be careful what you wish for... You might get it!)
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To: M 91 u2 K
Did they have any comment on First Mom Barbarta giving the Corp Band the 'Gig 'Em'?

Doesn't 'Hook em Horns' symbol mean 'Hang Loose' in Hawaii?

30 posted on 01/24/2005 4:10:40 AM PST by mathluv
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To: floridarolf

Hahah,,it may not take many years. heck in a few weeks some of our homegrown loonies will declare Bush is part of a satanic cult.


31 posted on 01/24/2005 4:12:18 AM PST by cajungirl (my peeps are freeps)
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To: Nataku X

Isn't BS with the back of the hand facing outward?


32 posted on 01/24/2005 4:13:42 AM PST by MortMan (Be careful what you wish for... You might get it!)
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To: MortMan

No. You do point it to the target of the intended sign, though, such as your friend, or your TV, or whatever. But that is true for almost all signs in that category...


33 posted on 01/24/2005 4:17:16 AM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Your descriptions are good to know. We should pass this on the Condi Rice so she can give some curses to Boxer.


34 posted on 01/24/2005 4:17:21 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: MortMan

Sorry I meant to clarify--YES, you see it with the back of the hand a lot, but that doesn't really matter since almost all signs will change the location of the hands depending on the context and subject.


35 posted on 01/24/2005 4:19:08 AM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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Hahah,,it may not take many years. heck in a few weeks some of our homegrown loonies will declare Bush is part of a satanic cult.

So basically Bush is a Satan worshiping Christian Crusader???

36 posted on 01/24/2005 4:23:49 AM PST by M 91 u2 K
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Bush's Devil Hand Symbol Shocks European Viewers

And now, with their unfortunate headline, The Houston Chronicle ensures that some Americans will believe the president was giving a Satanic symbol as well.

37 posted on 01/24/2005 4:24:18 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Satan and the main figure in Christianity are the same for these people.


38 posted on 01/24/2005 4:25:10 AM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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To: M 91 u2 K

I have no doubt some whacko will allege that,,hey, we have whackos in this country who allege all kinds of thing. They will say he is posing as a Christian to advance his satanic cult activities.


39 posted on 01/24/2005 4:28:10 AM PST by cajungirl (my peeps are freeps)
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To: Nataku X

I don't think I've ever seen BS with the hand palm-outward, honestly. I never formally studied sign language, but 5 years at RIT (Rochester Institute of Technology), three on deaf-hearing floors in the dorms (sorry - "residence halls") gave me a pretty good feel for a portion of the language.

Thanks for the clarification.


40 posted on 01/24/2005 4:44:19 AM PST by MortMan (Be careful what you wish for... You might get it!)
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To: spodefly
They may not know Aggie hand signs, but the women are beautiful over there in Norwegia.

Actually, I've seen some mighty fine women in Texas, where they do know the Horns' hand gesture.

Best of all, Texan gals are far less likely to be socialist or think like Euroweenies.

41 posted on 01/24/2005 4:45:23 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Some people are so stupid. Everyone, I mean everyone, totally missed what Bush and his family where doing with their toes.


42 posted on 01/24/2005 4:47:58 AM PST by isthisnickcool (What do they do in the mosque on days when the guys in the front row have gas?)
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To: M 91 u2 K
I know it is asking too much, but you would think that people would realize that hand gestures mean different things around the world. For instance, in Greece waving your hand palm forward is a nasty gesture. Just as words can have two completely different meanings in different cultures, so can hand gestures.

If a reporter really desired to do an interesting article, then this would be a great topic. But I guess I'm asking too much.

43 posted on 01/24/2005 5:14:14 AM PST by fini
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To: floridarolf; M 91 u2 K
In 50 years, when this handsign isn't associated with the Texas Longhorns anymore,...

Ha! In fifty years, UT will have about 250,000 students/semester and will have its own air force. The devil himself will perish before the University of Texas is no longer associated with Longhorns!

44 posted on 01/24/2005 5:21:43 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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So you guys assume that people in Norway would know the sign of the Texas University Longhorns?

No, but why do the people in Norway (and Europe) assume that President Bush knows their hand signals? Is multiculturalism a one-way street? Haven't we learned that things need to be considered in the context of the locale in which they occur?

45 posted on 01/24/2005 5:22:22 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: M 91 u2 K

Alex Jones is as squirrely as they come...and wouldn't you just know that he lives somewhere here in Texas. Or at least used to. He's not someone I give very much credibility.


46 posted on 01/24/2005 5:22:56 AM PST by Maria S
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To: MortMan

5 years at RIT. You're a masochist.


47 posted on 01/24/2005 5:23:43 AM PST by Nataku X (You've heard, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Mohammad"?)
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To: mathluv

Dude. Hang loose is thumb and pinky extended. Dude.


48 posted on 01/24/2005 5:24:16 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Defendingliberty

"The Gator chop in Norway = I will crush your head in a vice. T he Seminole war chant in Norway = ahhahhahahahahhhhhh = I just but my tongue"


I wonder what they'd say about the Aggies' hand signal? But then again...who gives a flying flip?


49 posted on 01/24/2005 5:24:27 AM PST by Maria S
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To: M 91 u2 K

Europeans are so backward and unsophisticated.


50 posted on 01/24/2005 5:27:59 AM PST by rabidralph (Congratulations, Pres. Bush and VP Cheney!)
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