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The WMD's we DID find (Vanity/Request for Help)
Hannity Board ^ | 1/24/2005 | Bob Hyneman

Posted on 01/24/2005 11:01:51 AM PST by Bob Hyneman

I don't want to do ALL the leg work here. Can you folks help me make a list of the WMD's, precursors and related programs we DID find?



1.) Well there was this,2933,123680,00.html

Quote: Duelfer also told Fox News that about 10 or 12 sarin and mustard gas shells have been found in various locations in Iraq.


2.) and this Quote:

Kay said his team had, however, found "dozens of WMD-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during the inspections that began in late 2002."

"We have not yet found stocks of weapons," Kay told Congress, according to a declassified version of his remarks, released by the CIA after his closed-door briefings.


3.) and this,2763,1120720,00.html

Quote: Mustard gas found by Iraq weapon hunters

Paul Harris in New York Sunday January 11, 2004 The Observer

Dozens of mortar rounds believed to be armed with mustard gas have been discovered buried in Iraq, Danish troops said yesterday.

If confirmed, the find will be the first discovery of chemical munitions in Iraq by coalition forces scouring the country for the weapons of mass destruction used as justification for the US-led invasion.

'All the instruments showed indications of the same type of chemical compound, namely blister gas,' the Danish Army said in a statement on its website. Final test results will be announced within two days. . .

The Danish team has found only 36 mortar rounds buried in desert about 45 miles from Al Amarah, a southern town. But it added that up to a 100 more could still be hidden at the location. The rounds were in plastic bags and some were leaking. It seems they had been buried for at least 10 years.


4.) and this

Quote: Beginning in May 2004, ISG recovered a series of chemical weapons from Coalition military units and other sources. A total of 53 munitions have been recovered,

the Duelfer Report


5.) Inspectors also found uranium laced R-60 missiles in iraq


6.) and this Quote:

May 04: 155mm Chemical Munitions Used as an Improvised Explosive Device Military units recovered a 155mm artillery round near Baghdad International Airport. Analysis of the residue at the bottom of the round by ISG fi eld labs returned positive indications for sulfur mustard CW agent.

the Duelfer Report


7.) and this Quote: 16 May 2004: 152mm Binary Chemical Improvised Explosive Device A military unit near Baghdad Airport reported a sus- pect IED along the main road between the airport and the Green Zone (see figure 2). The munitions were remotely detonated and the remaining liquid tested positive in ISG fi eld labs for the nerve agent Sarin and a key Sarin degradation product.

the Duelfer report


8.) and this

Quote: An Iraqi source turned over to Polish Forces two 122mm rockets obtained at the Khamisiyah Depot—a former CW storage site declared by Iraq to have housed 122mm filled rockets (see Figure 6). Details about the provenance of these rounds remain unclear but the source Sarin/Cyclosarin believes the missiles were housed in a bunker struck during the Gulf war and subsequently hidden in canals and lakes in the area. Analysis of the liquid residue revealed the nerve agents Sarin (GB) and Cyclosarin (GF) as well as a number of impurities and known degradation products of GB and GF.

the Duelfer Report


9.) and this Quote:

25 June 2004: 17 Additional 122mm SAKR-18 Artillery Rockets. July 2004: 22 Additional 122mm SAKR-18 Artillery Rockets

An additional 17 rockets from the same cache described above (d) were identifi ed at the Khamisi- yah Depot by the same source. (See figure . Six- teen were returned to ISG for analysis and one was exploded onsite because it retained an intact rocket motor that posed safety concerns. Most of the rounds had been severed, exposed to heat, or were partially destroyed. Four intact rounds were separated for testing and returned a preliminary positive result for G-series nerve agent.

Duelfer report


10) and this

Quote: “One of the reported incidents occurred near Karbala where there appeared to be a very large “agricultural supply” area of 55-gallon drums of pesticide. In addition, there was also a camouflaged bunker complex full of these drums that some people entered with unpleasant results. More than a dozen soldiers, a Knight-Ridder reporter, a CNN cameraman, and two Iraqi POWs came down with symptoms consistent with exposure to nerve agent. A full day of tests on the drums resulted in one positive for nerve agent, and then one resulted in a negative. Later, an Army Fox NBC [nuclear, biological, chemical] Recon Vehicle confirmed the existence of Sarin. An officer from the 63d Chemical Company thought there might well be chemical weapons at the site.

But later ISG tests resulted in a proclamation of negative, end of story, nothing to see here, etc., and the earlier findings and injuries dissolved into non-existence. Left unexplained is the small matter of the obvious pains taken to disguise the cache of ostensibly legitimate pesticides. One wonders about the advantage an agricultural commodities business gains by securing drums of pesticide in camouflaged bunkers six feet underground. The “agricultural site” was also co-located with a military ammunition dump, evidently nothing more than a coincidence in the eyes of the ISG.


11.) and this



Polish Army Says Iraq Shells Had Deadly Cyclosarin Fri Jul 2, 2004 01:26 PM ET

By Wojciech Moskwa

WARSAW (Reuters) - Artillery shells found by Polish troops in Iraq definitely contained the deadly nerve agent cyclosarin, the Polish army said on Friday.

The threat of weapons of mass destruction possessed by Saddam Hussein's now toppled regime was the main justification used by Washington to go to war against Iraq last year, but U.S.-led forces have only found small amounts of banned weapons.

Poland said its soldiers found 17 Grad rockets and two mortar shells in late June and said U.S. experts had carried out tests on the weapons.

"Tests conducted showed that there was cyclosarin in the rocket heads," General Marek Dukaczewski, the head of army intelligence, told a news conference.

But the U.S. military said only two of the rockets had tested positive for sarin gas, and another 16 of the rockets found by the Poles had contained no chemical agents. The reason for the discrepancy in numbers was unclear.


12.) And let's not forget this:

Those are photos of some of the the chemical munitions Saddam had neither disclosed to the UN nor destroyed. IN this case (obviously) these worn out mustard gas shells are (obviously) no longer a threat.


13.) and this these are photos of Saddam'sURANIUM ENRICHMENT CENTRIFUGE.

It was found by Inspector David Kay on the SECOND DAY of his post war inspections. Under direct orders from Qusay the scientist in charge hid the stuff by digging a deep hole under the rose bush in the private garden behind his house. Blix never found it and never would have.


14.) the there ws this: Iraq also maintained more than a hundred bioweapons reference strains

David kay found these within his first week or so. they had been stored in the refrigerator of the private home of an iraqi weapons scientist. Blix never found it and never would have.

Both of these photos come to us courtesy of David Kay. Who also testified about them before Congress.

That Saddam's scientists admitted (after the war but not before) to working on a variety of bioweapons including - Brucella - Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF), - ricin and - aflatoxin.


15.) Oh yeah, let's not forget Kay also testified to finding Quote: " A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research."

The labs were hidden in prisons, mosques even in a secret room of a nuclear research facility. Blix never found them and never would have.


16.) and then

Once Saddam was arrested iraqi scientists admitted that they had been working on a rail gun. A rail gun of their design has two possible purposes - flinging pumpkins really really far - a firing mechanism for a nuclear weapon. From David Kay's ACTUAL statement to congress:

Quote: "With regard to Iraq's nuclear program, the testimony we have obtained from Iraqi scientists and senior government officials should clear up any doubts about whether Saddam still wanted to obtain nuclear weapons. They have told ISG that Saddam Husayn remained firmly committed to acquiring nuclear weapons. These officials assert that Saddam would have resumed nuclear weapons development at some future point. Some indicated a resumption after Iraq was free of sanctions."

Hans Blix never got them to fess up and never would have


17.) and also The of course there is the radioactive cesium(DIRTY BOMB MATERIAL) that marines found BURIED UNDER A 30 FOOT PILE OF GRAVE at a WEAPONS PLANT in Iraq.

Cesium would have been legal for Saddam to import under sanctions because it can be used to calibrate chemotherapy machines. Of course Saddam had stockpiled a VERY large quantity of the stuff He also - chose to buy it on the black market, - smuggle it into the country - hide it from inspectors - store it at a WEAPONS PLANT - and buried it under a 30 ft pile of gravel.

Does this sound like calibrating chemo machines to you?

Blix never found it and . . . well maybe


I could go on (an on and on) as time allows but the simple fact is Saddam was hiding a lot of bad stuff.

I am hoping that someone out there has other links like those above.

Not enough to take over the US. Not enough to make or break a single battle in a ground war but certainly a threat in the hands of terrorists, like the 9,000 plus Saddam sponsored.

TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bias; iraq; mustard; sarin; wmds

1 posted on 01/24/2005 11:01:51 AM PST by Bob Hyneman
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To: Bob Hyneman

Saddam WAS the WMD.

Mass graves of his own people, $25,000 to the families of homicide bombers, general destabilization of the region ... Saddam was all you needed for mass destruction ...

2 posted on 01/24/2005 11:04:27 AM PST by JennysCool (Rest in Peace, Great Carsoni!)
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To: Bob Hyneman

I figure Saddam was the biggest WMD we found.

3 posted on 01/24/2005 11:04:46 AM PST by texaschick
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To: Bob Hyneman
Additional perspective here.
4 posted on 01/24/2005 11:04:58 AM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: Bob Hyneman
Yep,.......Saddam's three (3) Mystery Ships got away.....all,.... THREE CARGO SHIPS!


5 posted on 01/24/2005 11:08:38 AM PST by maestro
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To: Bob Hyneman

#1 on this list is all the goodies from Libya.

Would we have gotten this stuff without the Iraq war?

6 posted on 01/24/2005 11:55:17 AM PST by Boundless
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To: JennysCool

Not to mention his late, lamented (or is that DE-mented) sons, Uday and Qusay.

Or were they only "precursors" to the main WMD?

7 posted on 01/24/2005 11:57:31 AM PST by ssaftler (This space for rent. Inquiries to
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To: Bob Hyneman

Seems like WND had an article with a nice laundry list, but everything you have may be included in that? Seems like there was an inordinate amount of pre-cursors to chemical weapons that could also have been used as pesticides. Didn't see that in your list.

8 posted on 01/24/2005 12:05:02 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Bob Hyneman
WMD's ?
USA Today
Fox News
Washington Post
San Diego Union Tribune

Al Qaeda Ties? Notice the airliner (Sept 11, 2001), and train cars, (Madrid 3/11/04), in the Salman Pac terrorist training facility outside Baghdad in this 2000 satellite photo. Click the image to get high resolution.

Al Qaeda Training Site Near Bagdad, Click for high resolution detailed image, 220K

I Keep this on my homepage.
9 posted on 01/24/2005 12:18:49 PM PST by DocRock
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To: My2Cents

Wow, this is great. Just the type of information I need for an ongoing argument elsewhere. Thank you!

10 posted on 01/24/2005 12:22:11 PM PST by swmobuffalo (the only good terrorist is a dead one)
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To: Bob Hyneman

April 26, 2004 - Jordanian authorities said Monday they have broken up an alleged al Qaeda plot that would have unleashed a deadly cloud of chemicals in the heart of Jordan's capital, Amman.


In a series of raids, the Jordanians said, they seized 20 tons of chemicals and numerous explosives.


Other news stories at the time said the 20 tons (40,000 pounds) of chemicals were mostly Sarin and VX nerve agent. These chemical weapons were brought to Jordan by al Qaeda from Syria. But Syria doesn't have the technology to make VX. Iraq had a history of making VX, though.

There were other news stories at the time with more details than the CNN story. But the media didn't seem very interested and never followed up on where these terrorists managed to find 40,000 pounds of chemical weapons. I guess they thought these guys ran down to the local "chemical weapons-R-Us" store and got them there.

11 posted on 01/24/2005 2:14:25 PM PST by cc2k
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