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Iranian Alert - January 25, 2005 - U.S. INTELLIGENCE OBTAINS IRANIAN NUKE PLANS
Regime Change Iran ^ | 1.25.2005 | DoctorZin

Posted on 01/24/2005 11:08:04 PM PST by DoctorZIn

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U.S. INTELLIGENCE OBTAINS IRANIAN NUKE PLANS


WASHINGTON [MENL] -- The U.S. intelligence community has obtained plans for what was described as an Iranian project to develop a nuclear warhead.

Officials said the plans were obtained by the CIA in November from an unidentified source. They said the source relayed more than 1,000 pages of technical drawings and documents of an Iranian nuclear missile warhead design.

In November, 2004, officials said, the CIA had sought to confirm the authenticity of the Iranian documents. The Iranian documents -- first reported by the Washington Post on Nov. 19 -- were said to outline a design for a nuclear warhead of the enhanced Shihab-3 intermediate-range ballistic missile. Officials said a warhead capable of containing a nuclear bomb appeared have been developed for the launch of the Shihab-3 in October 2004.

Iran has acknowledged that information from its nuclear program has been leaked to opposition sources and Western intelligence agencies. Since last August, Teheran has reported arrests of unidentified scientists and technicians in Iran's nuclear program.





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1 posted on 01/24/2005 11:08:06 PM PST by DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 01/24/2005 11:10:14 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

Well now....do we have them nailed now?

Maybe that is why Jack Straw is meeting with Condi Rice...I think I saw that somewhere.


3 posted on 01/24/2005 11:13:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

UK backs the Mullahs for sure!


4 posted on 01/24/2005 11:15:47 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: DoctorZIn
How about this? We have our weapons experts design a seriously flawed warhead. A warhead that would detonate at the most unexpected time! Then we have someone pass the plans on to Iran as though providing it was the result of a serious security breach. Then just sit back and wait for the world's seismic stations to report the success of our plan. Another approach would be to simply nuke on of their military facilities and then claim it was an 'accident' resulting from their pursuit of nuclear weapons. There would be no one left to say the explosion was anything other than an unfortunate accident.
5 posted on 01/24/2005 11:17:38 PM PST by jwpjr
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To: DoctorZIn; All

DAMNNNN alright US intellgence rack them

I want to know what Iranians are up to


6 posted on 01/24/2005 11:17:53 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: All

Iran's National Pride

Mens' daily news
Jan 24th, 05

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1327850/posts


7 posted on 01/24/2005 11:20:17 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: DoctorZIn

Very nice on the blog!


8 posted on 01/24/2005 11:20:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Do yo find it more helpful?


9 posted on 01/24/2005 11:22:36 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

Brevity is a virtue, finding info on Free Republic in a given area is getting to be a real problem.

Your efforts should help when checking on news relative to Iran.


10 posted on 01/24/2005 11:31:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: jwpjr

If this is for real, lets make sure it is. The Iranians can be doing the same thing as you are suggesting.

Slipping the Iranians a faulty design plan would be possible, but it wouldn't be such a great idea if they figured out the flaw and made it work. It would be better to ship them a completed nuclear warhead from "Pakistan"
that would detonate when they attemped to launch it, or detonated when it was put in their "secret" location.


11 posted on 01/25/2005 12:20:18 AM PST by Nuzcruizer
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To: All

Papers on the campus board of the university of Tehran asking the students to sign the referrundum petition and protest the regime!

12 posted on 01/25/2005 12:31:21 AM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: DoctorZIn

The Mossad chief yesterday warned that soon Iran will reach a no return point:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1106537797955

Iran's nuclear program is close to the "point of no return," at which they will no longer need outside or international help to enrich uranium for use in atomic weapons, Mossad Chief Meir Dagan told the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee Monday.

The international community is not using all of its capabilities to curb the Iranian program, Dagan stressed.

Dagan assessed United States Vice President Dick Cheney comment last week, which mentioned the possibility of Israeli action against Iran in order to provoke European countries to take action, as an attempt at provoking the international community to take action against Iran before it is too late.

Cheney, in an MSNBC interview on the day US President George W. Bush was inaugurated for a second term, said Iran was at the top of the American administration's list of world trouble spots.

Cheney said that the Administration is concerned by Iran's combination of pursuing "a fairly robust nuclear program" and a history of sponsoring terrorism.

"If, in fact, the Israelis became convinced the Iranians had significant nuclear capability, given the fact that Iran has a stated policy that their objective is the destruction of Israel, the Israelis might well decide to act first, and let the rest of the world worry about cleaning up the diplomatic mess afterwards," Cheney said.

Concern has been increasing recently over the threat of Iran becoming a nuclear power, as the country has continued to develop technologies and resources for the manufacture of atomic weapons, despite international pressures to halt its nuclear program.

On Monday Vice Premier Shimon Peres said he was convinced that Iran is single-handedly the world's most serious security threat.

"Iran is the main problem of the Middle East. I do not think that the matter of Iran needs to be turned into an Israeli problem – it is a matter of concern to the whole world," Peres said in an interview with Israel Radio.

"It is the United States which must decide, not us. If we go it alone, we will end up alone," Peres added.

National Security Council chief Maj. Gen. (res.) Giora Eiland said that Teheran has stepped its activities supporting terrorist organizations operating against Israel, speaking to Israel Radio.

"The Iranians have established within the Hizbollah a separate wing, whose job is to recruit people, including Israeli Arabs but chiefly Palestinians, and they are paid great amounts of money. As long as this continues, it will be very difficult to stop [terrorist] activity."

Meanwhile, Iran has accused Israel of orchestrating the tough US stance against its nuclear program, responding to Cheney's assertion that Iran is a top security priority for the United States.

"Iran has always said that Tel Aviv decides US policies and that the Zionist lobby is so powerful in the United States. Therefore we were not surprised by such remarks," Hamid Reza Asefi, spokesman for the Foreign Ministry in Teheran, said Sunday.

President Bush also has said the United States does not rule out the option of military action against Iran.

In January Iran agreed to give UN inspectors of the International Atomic Energy Agency access to a huge military site allegedly linked to a secret nuclear weapons program.

Iran has been the main focus of the IAEA since mid-2002, after revelations of two secret nuclear facilities - a uranium enrichment plant at Natanz and a heavy water production plant near Arak.

That led to a subsequent IAEA investigation of what turned out to be nearly two decades of covert nuclear activities, including suspicious 'dual use' experiments that can be linked to weapons programs.


---Probably the Mossad and the CIA are working together on the issue. I really hope they are.


13 posted on 01/25/2005 12:39:06 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

I do believe the regime has a dangerous nuke project but I never trust the dates Media, diplomats and ...etc give every time.

One say, they will get to the point of no return in October 2003.
The other say, they will get to that point in 2009.

Dates are not important any more. All of us know that no one can give a knife to some one who is not trusted.

The Mullahs can not be trusted!


14 posted on 01/25/2005 12:42:45 AM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

I agree.
Its all probably just talking around for the media so it will invent its own stories while the real attack will be surprising and secret when no one is expecting it.

And Israel is very good in surprises.


15 posted on 01/25/2005 12:45:55 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: F14 Pilot

"UK backs the Mullahs for sure!"


That's right dipstick, we are all converting to Islam, then we're going to come over there and sort you Yanks out with our new best friends the Iranians.

And you are top of the list mate.


16 posted on 01/25/2005 1:11:24 AM PST by Still in Denial ("How fortunate for leaders that men do not think" - Adolf Hitler)
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To: DoctorZIn

bump


17 posted on 01/25/2005 1:49:39 AM PST by Khashayar (We are the champions, No time to lose us!)
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To: DoctorZIn

Bump!


18 posted on 01/25/2005 3:41:40 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got 4 years (8!) to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: Still in Denial

Your 'handle' fits you.
The UK has not stopped doing business as usual with the regime.
You are in denial.

The day they stop, is the day they no longer back the mullahs.


19 posted on 01/25/2005 5:16:56 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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It is a great link on Iran

http://www.worldisround.com/articles/73022/index.html


20 posted on 01/25/2005 3:24:52 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Do you think Briton is in danger of growing a conscious? Few centuries of repent might convince me but there definitely is something out of character going on with BP. Likely the US.
Mullahs had passed that point of no return almost 26 years ago. When they brought their 1300-year-old tribal Arab mindset to 20th century Persia and couldn’t sell Iranian people on that genetic and mental regression even with force. The evolution Dictates their extinction since fundamentalist Islam cannot evolve period. The nuke point of no return is one of seventy million + reasons that they must be eradicated.


21 posted on 01/25/2005 4:52:56 PM PST by Reza2004
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; F14 Pilot; nuconvert; IAF ThunderPilot; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; ...
Straw summoned to be instructed as to how the cow will eat the cabbage.

All right, Jack, here is the plan with which you shall get.

You are to stop all this "negotiating" with the lying fascists in Iran--am I going too fast for you?


22 posted on 01/25/2005 5:50:51 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

ROFL!!!!


23 posted on 01/25/2005 8:17:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: DoctorZIn; McGavin999; freedom44; nuconvert; sionnsar; AdmSmith; dixiechick2000; onyx; Pro-Bush; ...

Web blogger Hanif Mazrouei, one of more than 20 journalists detained since a new crackdown on pro-reform Iranian media was launched in September, shows the blindfold he was made to wear for most of the 66 days he was kept in solitary confinement, during an interview with The Associated Press, in Tehran, Iran, Tuesday, Jan. 11, 2005. My interrogator punched me in the head and stomach and kicked me in the back many times to force me confess to having illegal sex and endangered national security through my writings, Mazrouei said. (AP Photo/Vahid Salemi)

24 posted on 01/25/2005 8:25:42 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well now....do we have them nailed now?"""

Why should I believe this? It sounds like the stuff they put out before going into Iraq - - and now Bush and Condi both admit the intelligence was wrong and there were no WMDs in Iraq.

25 posted on 01/25/2005 8:28:47 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

So you bought the line put out by the Leftists and media that the only reason we went into Iraq was because Saddam had stockpikes of WMD.s????


26 posted on 01/25/2005 8:32:54 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Revel; Velveeta; Dolphy; Viking2002; ...

ping


27 posted on 01/25/2005 8:37:47 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So you bought the line put out by the Leftists and media that the only reason we went into Iraq was because Saddam had stockpikes of WMD.s????""""

That's not my point. This article says US intelligence has found a nuke program in Iran. Well, we heard the same thing about Iraq before we went in. Why should I believe this intelligence is any more accurate than our Iraq intelligence was? And if you're saying it doesn't matter whether there are nukes in Iran (or Iraq) - that there are other reasons to go into Iran -- then why post this article about nukes, in the first place?

28 posted on 01/25/2005 8:58:08 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: F14 Pilot

Thanks for the ping F13 Pilot.


29 posted on 01/25/2005 9:07:24 PM PST by Cindy
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To: churchillbuff

So you don't believe they have a nuclear program?


30 posted on 01/25/2005 9:07:46 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Cindy; F14 Pilot

Typo...F14 PILOT.

Thank you for that ping.


31 posted on 01/25/2005 9:09:46 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Calpernia

and thanks Calpernia.


32 posted on 01/25/2005 9:11:56 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy

lol... it is okay, at least you could write F12+1 pilot
;-)


33 posted on 01/25/2005 9:46:39 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So you don't believe they have a nuclear program?"""

Frankly, I don't know. The only sources that have said they do have a program for potential military purposes are the sources that said Saddam had one. Even Bush now admits those sources were wrong on Iraq, so they don't have a lot of credibility with me.

34 posted on 01/25/2005 10:11:21 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


35 posted on 01/25/2005 10:53:33 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: churchillbuff

The Mullahs regime can not be trusted to have Nuclear energy in hand and the mullahs are ba$ta^d.


36 posted on 01/25/2005 11:02:52 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: PhilDragoo


37 posted on 01/26/2005 1:43:27 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: DoctorZIn
This thread is now closed.

Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

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38 posted on 01/26/2005 3:22:13 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: churchillbuff

You're kidding, right?


39 posted on 01/26/2005 3:31:16 AM PST by hershey
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To: F14 Pilot

Bump!


40 posted on 01/26/2005 4:01:31 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got 4 years (8!) to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: DoctorZIn
Officials said a warhead capable of containing a nuclear bomb appeared have been developed for the launch of the Shihab-3 in October 2004.

Could you clarify this statement a bit, please?

Does this mean that Iran completed development of a nuclear warhead in October 2004, or that they're presently developing a warhead for a missile that was test-flown in October, 2004?

41 posted on 01/26/2005 5:00:07 AM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: churchillbuff; hchutch
Why should I believe this intelligence is any more accurate than our Iraq intelligence was?

Because the Iranians are devoting an inordinate amount of their resources to developing long-range ballistic missiles--which, because of relatively large CEPs, are militarily worthless unless they have nuclear warheads.

In essence, the nuclear warhead is the missing piece of the Iranian IRBM weapons system.

42 posted on 01/26/2005 5:03:59 AM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: hershey; churchillbuff

That poster is the Neville Chamberlain of Free Republic. And seems proud of it.


43 posted on 01/26/2005 5:25:59 AM PST by Peach
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To: PhilDragoo

You choose a perfect photo of Condi to use.

Well done......LOL


44 posted on 01/26/2005 6:07:35 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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To: Calpernia; Alabama MOM; lacylu; SevenofNine; WestCoastGal

Ping/Bump to Cal.


45 posted on 01/26/2005 6:09:39 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (The enemy within, will be found in the "Communist Manifesto 1963", you are living it today.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

>>>>Brevity is a virtue, finding info on Free Republic in a given area is getting to be a real problem.

Farmfriend posted a thread last night that organized who all the major ping list holders were.

Did you get to see this? It is very helpful in organizing FR information.


46 posted on 01/26/2005 6:14:45 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.


47 posted on 01/26/2005 6:28:53 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: iconoclast
bump!

48 posted on 01/26/2005 8:04:49 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: hershey
You're kidding, right?"""

Why don't you ask the president? He's the one who said the intelligence was bad on Iraq.

49 posted on 01/26/2005 8:21:49 AM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Why don't you ask the president? He's the one who said the intelligence was bad on Iraq.

Why don't you supply a quote for that remark?

50 posted on 01/26/2005 9:33:06 AM PST by Peach
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