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HILLARY SEEKS COMMON GROUND ON ABORTION [Presidential Campaign '08...]
Drudge Report ^ | Mon Jan 24 2005

Posted on 01/25/2005 7:50:14 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi

HILLARY MODIFIES ABORTION LANGUAGE


Proposing new political language about abortion rights for an increasingly skittish Democratic Party, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said Monday that friends and foes on the issue should come together on "common ground" to reduce the number of "unwanted pregnancies" and ultimately abortions, which she called a "sad, even tragic choice to many, many women."

Clinton, in a speech to about 1,000 abortion rights supporters at the state Capitol, firmly restated her support for Roe v. Wade.

But then she offered warm words to opponents of abortion and said that faith and organized religion were the "primary" reasons teenagers abstained from sexual relations.

The NEW YORK TIMES is set to splash the Hillary speech.

Developing...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortistsagenda; abotion; campaign; clinton; clintons; commonground; conservatism; democrats; hillary; hitlery; khillary; liberal; liberals; makeover; monicaonbill; presidential; rats; uncommonground
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1 posted on 01/25/2005 7:50:14 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Before you know it, by 2008, Hillary would be claiming to channel Ronnie Reagan.


2 posted on 01/25/2005 7:51:52 AM PST by Popman
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To: alessandrofiaschi

3 posted on 01/25/2005 7:52:23 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

She calls abortion a "sad, tragic choice," yet she supports it. What a contradiction! Typical liberal.


4 posted on 01/25/2005 7:52:34 AM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: Popman

That'll be interesting.


5 posted on 01/25/2005 7:53:22 AM PST by wk4bush2004
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To: Popman
Before you know it, by 2008, Hillary would be claiming to channel Ronnie Reagan.

She is running to the right because she knows she has the nomination sewn up. It is a game of deception to get that 5-10% of the middle.

6 posted on 01/25/2005 7:53:33 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Same as always. When your position is rejected by the voters, lie your @$$ off and pretend to be something else. Anyone who buys this claptrap ought to be forever barred from voting because they lack the intellectual capacity to make a rational decision.


7 posted on 01/25/2005 7:53:42 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: wk4bush2004

Anybody got a copy of Hillary holding up that "Bush Knew" newspaper headline ?


8 posted on 01/25/2005 7:54:14 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Popman

I thought that there was a common ground on abortion. Planned Parenthood kills all of the babies that they can. Pro-Life groups get to protest those killings. This has always seemed to satisfy the Hillary types. Why do they want to change now? Feeling pressure?


9 posted on 01/25/2005 7:54:47 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: MeekOneGOP; superskunk; Libertina; Alamo-Girl; an italian

PING!


10 posted on 01/25/2005 7:56:00 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Liberal Democrat practicing DISINFORMATION in hopes of fooling enough voters to win in 08.


11 posted on 01/25/2005 7:56:22 AM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Great photo. Reminds me of the restaurant scene in the Blues Brothers where Belushi catches the shrimp lobbed in the air by Ackroyd.


12 posted on 01/25/2005 7:56:45 AM PST by plain talk
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Every time a liberal says they want to find "common ground" they really mean they want us to agree with them on everything and forfeit our own convictions. Voila! Common ground.


13 posted on 01/25/2005 7:57:34 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Nobody on earth can twist words around like the Clintons. It is a real talent, and has put them where they are today. but how in h*** you can find "common ground" on this issue is beyond comprehension.
Our society will either allow the baby to be legally killed in the womb or not.


14 posted on 01/25/2005 7:58:34 AM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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To: wk4bush2004

two-forked tongue.


15 posted on 01/25/2005 7:58:40 AM PST by seppel
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To: alessandrofiaschi
Clinton, in a speech to about 1,000 abortion rights supporters at the state Capitol, firmly restated her support for Roe v. Wade.
16 posted on 01/25/2005 8:00:07 AM PST by Califelephant (What's freedom worth?)
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To: af_vet_1981
It is a game of deception to get that 5-10% of the middle.

Yes, and she has four years to get the scripted act down to a tee.

I wonder how many RINO's will support her.

17 posted on 01/25/2005 8:00:17 AM PST by Popman
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Just let the voters HEAR one of her "Screeching Speeches"....YIKES!! She sounds like a fishmonger's wife.


18 posted on 01/25/2005 8:00:27 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

I am still really ticked off that Hillary's mom didn't abort her. But if Hitlery wants common ground, she can rectify by sacrificing herself in place of a child.


19 posted on 01/25/2005 8:00:45 AM PST by worldclass
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To: af_vet_1981

"It is a game of deception to get that 5-10% of the middle."

Problem is she is going to get it.


20 posted on 01/25/2005 8:00:50 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 votes and the world changes.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I think that the expression "common ground" is very outrogeous. Sen. Clinton hates life, she is only a beldam.


21 posted on 01/25/2005 8:01:40 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: GadareneDemoniac

That's what makes them so dangerous. The sheeple love it when a leader smoothes over these difficulties for them so they can get back to Oprah and the things that matter. I'm convinced many of the people just want government to comfort them and fool them into thinking everything's OK. Clinton's are pro's at it.


22 posted on 01/25/2005 8:01:54 AM PST by plain talk
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To: alessandrofiaschi
We feel murder is a terrible thing so we need to come to a middle ground with those who are against it.

We've always found it difficult to curb the actions of murderers, so instead, we propose decreasing the number of potential victims. Doesn't that sound wonderful.

This way everyone is happy! The murderers can continue to do their thing and we can show how the overall numbers of murders committed have gone down, thus keeping the anti-murder folks happy as well.

Hillary, you are out of your mind, and hopefully, soon, you will be out of a job as well.

Best Regards

Sergio
23 posted on 01/25/2005 8:02:29 AM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: wk4bush2004
>She calls abortion a "sad, tragic choice," yet she supports it. What a contradiction!

Adam and Eve made
a sad, tragic choice. But God
let them make the choice.

24 posted on 01/25/2005 8:03:02 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: alessandrofiaschi; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; ...
HILLARY SEEKS COMMON GROUND ON ABORTION
[Presidential Campaign '08...]


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


25 posted on 01/25/2005 8:04:13 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: theFIRMbss
But Hitlery is not God.
26 posted on 01/25/2005 8:04:28 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh! We won't be fooled again, no, no, no


27 posted on 01/25/2005 8:04:40 AM PST by Gaetano
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To: All

Senator Clinton Speaks of 'Common Ground' on Abortion

By PATRICK D. HEALY

ALBANY, Jan. 24 - Proposing new political language about abortion rights for the Democratic Party, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said today that friends and foes on the issue should come together on "common ground" to reduce the number of "unwanted pregnancies" and ultimately abortions, which she called a "sad, even tragic choice to many, many women."

Mrs. Clinton, in a speech to about 1,000 abortion rights supporters at the state Capitol, firmly restated her support for the Supreme Court ruling that legalized abortion nationwide, Roe v. Wade. But then she quickly shifted gears, offering warm words to opponents of abortion - particularly members of religious groups - asserting that there was "common ground" to be found after three decades of emotional and political warfare over abortion.

Mrs. Clinton is widely seen as a possible candidate for the party's presidential nomination in 2008, and her remarks signaled that she could be recalibrating her strong identification with the abortion-rights movement as the Democratic Party engages in its own re-examination of its handling of the issue in the wake of Senator John Kerry's loss in the 2004 presidential race.

Ms. Clinton has been a visible and very public defender of abortion rights, appearing at a huge rally in Washington last spring and denouncing what she called Republican efforts to demonize the abortion rights movement.

While she acknowledged in her address today that Americans have "deeply held differences" over abortion rights, Mrs. Clinton told the annual conference of the Family Planning Advocates of New York State, "I for one respect those who believe with all their heart and conscience that there are no circumstances under which abortion should be available."

In addition to her description of abortion as a "tragic choice" for many," Mrs. Clinton said that faith and organized religion were the "primary" reasons that teenagers abstain from sexual relations, and reminded the audience that during the 1990's, she promoted "teen celibacy" as a way to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies.

"The fact is, the best way to reduce the number of abortions is to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies in the first place," Mrs. Clinton said.

Mrs. Clinton also called today for the Bush administration, religious groups, supporters and opponents of abortion rights and others to look beyond the abortion rights divide and form a broad alliance on other issues that she suggested as less incendiary: sex-education programs for teenagers that included abstinence education, emergency contraception for women who have recently had unprotected intercourse, and family planning.

The speech was also notable for a stream of statistics and data that, Mrs. Clinton's aides said afterward, were included to underscore her view that the reduction of "unwanted pregnancies" could be a unifying issue for supporters and opponents of abortion rights.

At one point, for instance, she drew gasps from some in the audience by mentioning that 7 percent of American women who do not use contraception account for 53 percent of all unintended pregnancies.

Several women in the audience reacted positively to Mrs. Clinton, whose remarks were interrupted by applause several times and ended with a standing ovation. But they also said her language and themes seemed politically calculated to deal with the abortion "freak-out" among Democrats, as one audience member put it, and reach out to independent and conservative voters in hopes of broadening her base of support for a possible 2008 presidential run.

28 posted on 01/25/2005 8:05:54 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Un-freakin'-believable!! This creature will say anything and do anything to try to consolidate her power base. Let's just hope and pray that there are more of us and less of the brainwashed sheeple come the next election. Can you imagine this harpy in debates spewing her twisted invectives, trying to remember her lies so she can cover new ones? She has lied for so long that I don't think she could tell the truth if she indeed knew what the truth was.


29 posted on 01/25/2005 8:06:14 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: FreePaul
I believe this has a lot more to do with positioning herself for a vote on SC nominee's when they come up during the next four years.

She knows that Bush will nominate a pro life judge to replace Scalia, when he moves up. Hillary cannot come across as too liberal and continue to pose as a moderate democrat.

She is positioning herself in the middle as to look consistent to mute the pro life position during her run for the presidency by voting for a pro life SC judge and confirming Scalia

30 posted on 01/25/2005 8:08:28 AM PST by Popman
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To: Polyxene
I bet that her allegements are suggested by Al Sherpton.
31 posted on 01/25/2005 8:09:26 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi
Common ground?....is still dirt

When good has ANY part of evil...good is diminished and evil takes ground

Then of course evil comes back for the 'next compromise' and the next and the next
until you can no longer tell the difference between good and evil...

That is the reality of Hillary's common ground imo....

Though the funny part is her saying that "organized religion" and faith cause abstinence..

I wonder how she would she and Bill's sitting in the front row of their Little Rock Baptist church....with
Bill singing in the choir on tv every Sunday..and all their public commitment to church going
during their tenure in the White House and how that seems to conflict with Bill's parade of bimbos and her alleged liaisons with Vince Foster...and others...not all of them men...

Won't even get into rape allegations and a sizable group of women victims all ignored by Hillary and the femanazis who love her and who boldly claim their anti mutual rape and pro women's support programs.....

Of course Hillary's version of the common ground of faith,organized religion, and abortion was summed up nicely by a woman who appeared on the 700 Club a few years back.

This woman claimed she was able to literally walk past security unchecked and into the Clinton's inauguration event...and then walk right up to Hillary and tell her give her the message the woman claimed God wanted her to convey to the 1st lady... "God does not want us to kill babies"...

This woman reported that Hillary's face contorted and she literally 'hissed' back..."god wants us to kill babies"...(Hillary probably meant 'her' god)

Like the meaning of the word "is"...the god she worships and the faith in him she talks about
may not be the same God Christians are supposed to worship and have no other God before.

All of Hillary's communictions must be first parsed in Clintonese

imo

32 posted on 01/25/2005 8:10:22 AM PST by joesnuffy (If America isn't a Christian nation from whom do we derive our God given rights?)
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To: seppel
two-forked tongue.

Wrong orifice, I think. More like a two-barrel A$$..
33 posted on 01/25/2005 8:17:14 AM PST by Give Piece A Chance
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Ay, thik wold Hillary -- a sarcy, power-mad trollop, that she be!


34 posted on 01/25/2005 8:23:55 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: theFIRMbss

Were Adam and Eve happy with their choice? Was God happy with them? Were they able to stay and live in the Garden Of Eden?


35 posted on 01/25/2005 8:31:51 AM PST by Texagirl4W (Father, bless the person reading this in whatever it is that You know they are needing this day!)
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To: Polyxene

Just wait until the next abortion-related vote makes its way to the Senate floor. She can "say" anything she wishes, but, her votes will and do speak much louder.


36 posted on 01/25/2005 8:32:27 AM PST by katieanna (I Know That My Redeemer Liveth!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Thanks for the ping!


37 posted on 01/25/2005 8:35:04 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: katieanna

We can only hope that the sheeple are listening and will hear what she really says!


38 posted on 01/25/2005 8:35:59 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Polyxene

39 posted on 01/25/2005 8:41:07 AM PST by petercooper (Liberalism = Idealism; Conservatism = Realism)
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To: Polyxene
The only common ground there can be is: Killing babies is morally wrong.

It is not a mother's right to kill her baby. It is a mother's duty and obligation (responsibility)to do everything to protect the baby.

And you can't have it both way: You can't say I wouldn't do it but it's okay if you do it. That statement is an analogy for any crime.

40 posted on 01/25/2005 8:44:14 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

The problem here is that Hillary's position isn't black and white. But then again, neither is the position of most Americans.

Most Americans will agree that abortion is wrong. But most Americans don't want it abolished. For most Americans the position is something like, "Yes abortion is wrong. But sometimes it's the best thing in a bad situation." So Hillary's rejection of both the chillingly materialist NARAL language and the right to life position is where most Americans actually are.


41 posted on 01/25/2005 8:54:13 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sacajaweau

Most people's values are pragmatism based, not moral absolute based. Most people's values are based on "never close your options" or "sometimes you have to just plain do whatever it takes". That is why there has been no legislative progress whatsoever towards ending abortion despite numerous GOP presidents.

The American people accept that the Right to Life position is the moral one but the NARAL position is the practical and pragmatic one.


42 posted on 01/25/2005 8:58:23 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: Sam the Sham

Hillary is in step with the mainstream...


43 posted on 01/25/2005 9:01:43 AM PST by seppel
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To: seppel

Yes, Hillary is completely in step with the mainstream here, because the mainstream does not think in absolutes.

Most people answer right vs wrong questions by asking "What if it happenned to you or someone you cared about ?"


44 posted on 01/25/2005 9:17:06 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: alessandrofiaschi

BOXER/HILLARY FOR '08!!!


45 posted on 01/25/2005 9:29:34 AM PST by Republicus2001
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To: alessandrofiaschi

First immigration, now abortion. She is running hard, trying to reach "the center."


46 posted on 01/25/2005 9:31:03 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news (there is no c in Amtrak and no truth in MSM news))
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Hillary lies like a rug.


47 posted on 01/25/2005 9:31:24 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Whew! ROTFLMAO!


48 posted on 01/25/2005 9:45:20 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

No change is permanent. If it can change once, it can change again.


49 posted on 01/25/2005 9:50:37 AM PST by freepy smurf (Yes, Santa Claus. There is a Virginia.)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

We'll see her in 2008. Hopefully, we'll see her delivering a concession speech in 2008, but we will see her.

http://orsa.blogspot.com/2005/01/unannounced-candidate.html


50 posted on 01/25/2005 9:59:27 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Senator Boxer - For whom the bell curve tolls!)
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