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Venezuela's Chavez seeks armed conflict with the USA
Vcrisis ^ | 24.01.05 | Aleksander Boyd

Posted on 01/25/2005 9:11:38 AM PST by alekboyd

I got to see a bit of the presidential spiel yesterday and I noticed that Chavez has lost composure; his normal coherent-self wasn’t there; the rhythm and pitch of his voice have abandoned him; he's absolutely convinced that the hour of his rendezvous with history has finally arrived in the form of an open conflict; be it with Colombia or the USA.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; chavez; colombia; confrontation; farc; latinamerica; rice; terrorism; venezuela; war

1 posted on 01/25/2005 9:11:39 AM PST by alekboyd
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To: alekboyd

So many Communists, so little time...


2 posted on 01/25/2005 9:15:19 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (Pray for the Lord's hand in the Iraqi elections (& I ain't talkin bout the dead terrorist pedophile))
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To: alekboyd

Don't worry about a thing -- Jimmy Carter says Chavez is a good guy.


3 posted on 01/25/2005 9:15:57 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: 68skylark

Rerun of "The Mouse That Roared"


4 posted on 01/25/2005 9:17:14 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: alekboyd

Here's to a Ceaucescu ending to the ongoing troubles in Venezuela.


5 posted on 01/25/2005 9:17:44 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: ApesForEvolution
Being a protege' Uncle Fidel, no wonder he's paranoid.
6 posted on 01/25/2005 9:18:02 AM PST by Puckster
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To: alekboyd
Venezuela's Chavez seeks armed conflict with the USA

Perhaps he has some Confederate regiments down there ...

7 posted on 01/25/2005 9:19:19 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: alekboyd

Too bad someone can't take him out !


8 posted on 01/25/2005 9:20:21 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: 68skylark
Great!!! So who vouches for that peanut-brained poor excuse for a man?
9 posted on 01/25/2005 9:26:12 AM PST by wmileo
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To: alekboyd

Ahh, I can see it now...Miller Lite beer commercial, part two between Miss Venezuela and Miss Colombia.

Sign me up.


10 posted on 01/25/2005 9:26:51 AM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: CORedneck
"Too bad someone can't take him out !"

Someone could, but it would be better if they were Venezuelan.
11 posted on 01/25/2005 9:27:23 AM PST by monday
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To: CORedneck
Too bad someone can't take him out !

Somebody will. I suspect ol' Hugo's boys are prolly trying to figure out how best to do it. Even they can tell he's a train wreck waiting to happen.

12 posted on 01/25/2005 9:28:00 AM PST by r9etb
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To: 68skylark

Yeah, Jimmy Carter was there to make sure Chavez stole the election, the last election Venezuela will have while Chavez breaths Venezuelan air.


13 posted on 01/25/2005 9:28:04 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Honoring Saint Jude's assistance every day.)
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To: alekboyd

Thanks for posting, and a belated welcome to FR..I've bookmarked your site, and will check in when Ican..buit if you post more on FR, kindly ping me. One question, if I may. I'd say that I've gotten most of my information on what's happening in Venezuela from the "Americas" column in the Wall Street Jurnal by Mary Anastasia O'Grady...I assume you're familar with her commentary. I'd be interested in your take on her observations...thanks


14 posted on 01/25/2005 9:30:01 AM PST by ken5050
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To: wmileo
So who vouches for that peanut-brained poor excuse for a man?

You know, that's a really good question. I'm not sure. Maybe we could get Castro to do that.

15 posted on 01/25/2005 9:33:54 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: Betis70
Ahh, I can see it now...Miller Lite beer commercial, part two between Miss Venezuela and Miss Colombia.


16 posted on 01/25/2005 9:35:40 AM PST by r9etb
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To: alekboyd

He's going to wind up in a cell next to Noriega.


17 posted on 01/25/2005 9:38:05 AM PST by pierrem15
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To: ken5050

I have been monitoring international media, on a daily basis, for the last 2 and a half years. Mary O'Grady's latest re the inclusion of Hugo Chavez in the list of terrorism sponsors is the closest approximation to reality that I have read from a foreigner. Her insight is simply superb, I guess that's why she's so despised by NYT lovers...


18 posted on 01/25/2005 9:38:40 AM PST by alekboyd
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To: alekboyd

One thing I don't quite understand...doesn't Colombia have its hands full with FARC? Why would they take this kind of 'bait' from Chavez? I haven't kept as a close a watch on the goings-on down there as I normally have, but it does sound like Hugo is going off his rocker.


19 posted on 01/25/2005 9:43:46 AM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: Betis70; Kitten Festival

chavez is afraid of Condi. She's no Powell. His playing footsy with the chicoms, al queda, and russia in our back yard sealed his fate.


20 posted on 01/25/2005 9:51:21 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: FormerACLUmember

Do not forget Jack Kemp. He was also in Chavez's corner.


21 posted on 01/25/2005 9:55:23 AM PST by smiley
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To: Grendel9

There's over three hundred million people in Latin America.

The majority of them are illiterate cannon fodder easily controlled by the Marxists who run the show in most of the place.

That's a lot of mice.


22 posted on 01/25/2005 10:07:13 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (RLK was right.)
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To: alekboyd
BRING IT.
23 posted on 01/25/2005 10:12:44 AM PST by Righter-than-Rush
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To: alekboyd
"Hugo Chavez does not merit martyrdom but a cell in an ADX prison, a la John Gotti."

Chavez is not a brave man, but I don't think he is leaving office alive.

24 posted on 01/25/2005 10:16:49 AM PST by marron
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To: NormsRevenge

Roger that, Marine!


25 posted on 01/25/2005 10:20:13 AM PST by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: 68skylark

And .. so does Chris Dodd and some other idiot senator who chastized Dr. Rice for suggesting Chavez was anything other than a steller person.


26 posted on 01/25/2005 11:00:40 AM PST by The Final Harvest (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: alekboyd

Mary Anastasia O'Grady (Wall Street Journal) is, IMHO, the best analyst we have on Latin America. She's the only one who seems to take Chavez seriously, too.

BTW, were you aware that Zapatero had planned to visit Chavez on his tour through LatAm this week(where he is visiting Lula, Kirchner and Lagos)? ZP wanted to finalize a contract for VZ to buy a military ship and 20 patrol boats for the VZ navy. Colombia lodged a formal objection, so in theory he is not going to VZ. However, nowhere did I read that Spain has cancelled the contract, so I'd say VZ is definitely arming itself.


27 posted on 01/25/2005 11:12:54 AM PST by livius
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To: Kitten Festival

As mentioned..FYI..regards..


28 posted on 01/25/2005 11:21:22 AM PST by ken5050
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To: ken5050

He's an old pal, does good work, don't you think? - thanks Ken.


29 posted on 01/25/2005 11:56:20 AM PST by Kitten Festival (The Thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: Kitten Festival

Yes..I am very impressed..and also a tad worried for him..


30 posted on 01/25/2005 12:43:49 PM PST by ken5050
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To: livius
How about the 100.000 Kalashnikov rifles and MIGs bought to Russia?
31 posted on 01/25/2005 1:07:49 PM PST by alekboyd
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To: Betis70
doesn't Colombia have its hands full with FARC?

There have been some articles posted recently which suggest a FARC - Venezuela connection.

It's quite possible that Chavez has been assisting the rebels, and knows that soon he will answer for his treachery.

33 posted on 01/25/2005 1:26:44 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: alekboyd

Ugo Chavez should start a war with the United States. When our military guns the commie s.o.b. down, there will fewer and less effective Senate investigations if it happens while UGO is "defending" the presidential palace. Arrivaderci, UGO!!!!!!


34 posted on 01/25/2005 1:32:27 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Freebird Forever

>>There have been some articles posted recently which suggest a FARC - Venezuela connection.

Interesting, I had not heard that. I need to start combing through LA newspapers and articles on the region again.


35 posted on 01/25/2005 1:33:11 PM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: Betis70
I need to start combing through LA newspapers and articles on the region again.

Do a FR keyword search for "Colombia".

You'll get a number of them.

36 posted on 01/25/2005 1:47:53 PM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Grendel9
Rerun of "The Mouse That Roared"

Wrong analogy. The folks in the Mouse That Roared were harmelss, looking to lose a war with us so that they could get foreign aid from the generous Americans (we always give aid to the countries we beat in wars, don't you know?). Unfortunately for them they somehow managed to win their war with us. Not a likely outcome with old Hugo, nor is he harmless in any way shape or form. He would kill and eat the people of the Duchy of Grand Fenwick, starting with the Duchess.

The image that comes to mind for me from literature is from C S Forester's Horatio Hornblower books, specifically the character of El Supremo from Beat to Quarters. The mad dictator, sending his peasent army off to die by the thousands, while crucifying any who dare questions any of his insane ravings. Sounds like Hugo to me.

Of course, instead of Captain Horatio Hornblower in the Lydia, we'll have Capt. James Symonds and CVN76, the USS Ronald Reagan and it's battle group. Don't think Hugo's Migs will fare too well in that little fracas.

37 posted on 01/25/2005 2:16:24 PM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: Phsstpok
specifically the character of El Supremo from Beat to Quarters

Yes!!! I knew Chavez reminded me of someone. You've hit it right on the head (pity we can't do the same with Hugo).

38 posted on 01/25/2005 3:25:07 PM PST by livius
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To: Grendel9

WoooHooo! Free oil next week!!


39 posted on 01/25/2005 5:44:23 PM PST by America's Resolve (awarforeurabia.blogspot.com - Watching the war for Europe)
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