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ACADEMY AWARDS ABOUT TO "JUMP THE SHARK"?
Network America ^ | 25 Jan 2005 | Jim Condit, Jr.

Posted on 01/25/2005 11:45:29 AM PST by Robert Drobot

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To: finnigan2

It was a very memorable performance that has entered pop culture legend.


121 posted on 01/25/2005 2:51:46 PM PST by Borges
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To: Robert Drobot
I think the article incorrectly defines the phrase, "jump the shark." AFAIK, the phrase isn't just a generic way to indicate that a show has peaked, but an indication that the show has already begun its downward slide and the producers/writers are trying increasingly desperate and pathetic measures to rejuvinate it.

The Happy Days scene was done after the show had peaked, and was trying to hold out a little longer, IIRC.

122 posted on 01/25/2005 2:52:22 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: Strategerist

Bump to that analysis!


123 posted on 01/25/2005 2:52:40 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Strategerist
And frankly there's a point where religion is going to get in the way of objective analysis. People have reached the point where anyone who doesn't worship Passion of the Christ are essentially being labled by definition Atheists, etc.

While I could care less who Oscar nominates not having watched in 20 years, especially since what they think constituted a good picture is usually some liberal message shoved down the audiences throat, not a picture that stands up to time and is watched year after year like most of the original Oscar movies.

I do not think that people here would object so much if it was not such blatant hypocrisy this year. There was no other movie that even came close to being the type of ageless film, and art that Oscars are suppose to represent. If there was I think that most would understand that there is no way that Hollywood would pick "The Passion" over anything that came close.

The Passion was art (whether Christian or not) in a sea of boring, dull canned themes that have been done to death and from the pictures this article talks about, the only one that will stand the test of time for audiences.

Be honest, what other film this year was there that was shot so beautifully (or vividly depending on the view), or captured the audience the way this film did or will stand the test of time and will still have an audience 30 to 40 years from now. You can be an atheist and still see that there is no other picture this year that accomplished this.

124 posted on 01/25/2005 2:56:00 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Mark in the Old South

There must be something wrong with me because I was completely bored by "Ran". And I watch a lot of foreign movies.


125 posted on 01/25/2005 2:56:24 PM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: Military family member
If people want to vote for a best picture, then vote for one of the People's choice nominees.

Not this year. From what I read it was a preselected group( of liberals of course) that were the "people" this year.

126 posted on 01/25/2005 2:58:10 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron

If you look at Best Picture winners from the last 20 years or so...most of them are pretty conservative.


127 posted on 01/25/2005 2:59:03 PM PST by Borges
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To: kellynla
"I think I'll purchase the DVD of "The Passion" on February 27."

GREAT idea. I will do the same.

128 posted on 01/25/2005 3:02:10 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Borges
I was on an other award thread last summer and the discussion came up about the old Oscar winners and how they have stood the test of time compared to todays Oscar winners whom many of I have never even heard of.

One year in particular came up, I am not sure, but I think we were amazed that some movie Like the "Wizard of OZ"(I am not sure this was the movie or not) did not get an Oscar, and then people began throwing up all the timeless movies that year alone created. It was amazing.

129 posted on 01/25/2005 3:08:24 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron
'The Wizard of Oz' lost to 'Gone with the Wind'. And you can't forget such memorable 'old time' Best Picture winners like Gentleman's Agreement, Around the World in 80 Days and Marty. /sarcasm

All the film that won in the last 20 years have generally stood the test of time. Well maybe not Out of Africa. But the others have.
130 posted on 01/25/2005 3:11:30 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
All the film that won in the last 20 years have generally stood the test of time.

I wish we had a list, because out of the winners of the Oscars they put up on the other thread, I had not seen or would never see again most of them. I love to go to the movies, but I want to be entertained not preached at, so I will go to the Sci-fi or action or fantasy film before the your a racist, your a homophobe, injustice movie or human interest movie any day.

Probably does not make me the best film critic but the ones I go to tend to make more money than the depressing ones. LOL! You might have noticed I left out Chick flicks, but when you are the only girl in a large family of boys there is rarely an opportunity and most have some liberal theme shoved in somewhere that just make me mad when I do go.

131 posted on 01/25/2005 3:27:25 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron
Not true, not true, not true. Anyone could go to the web site and vote. I did. My son did.

Where did you hear or read that?

132 posted on 01/25/2005 3:34:48 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: Lady Heron
A movie, just like a novel or a poem, reflects the view of the person who made it. It's just like any other form of speech.

Here are the best picture winners from the last 20 years:

1984 Amadeus
1985 Out of Africa
1986 Platoon
1987 The Last Emperor
1988 Rain Man
1989 Driving Miss Daisy
1990 Dance With Wolves
1991 The Silence of the Lambs
1992 Unforgiven
1993 Schinder's List
1994 Forrest Gump
1995 Braveheart
1996 The English Patient
1997 Titanic
1998 Shakespeare in Love
1999 American Beauty
2000 Gladiator
2001 A Beautiful Mind
2002 Chicago
2003 LOTR: ROTK
133 posted on 01/25/2005 3:37:00 PM PST by Borges
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To: Miss Behave

Passion is already out on DVD. I rented it a few weeks ago.


134 posted on 01/25/2005 3:40:44 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: HitmanNY
Super Bowl commercials are memorable not as a marketing ploy but because of the Super Bowl itself. The Super Bowls have been consistently the most watched event of any given year. Viewership is up so the cost of running commercials is up. With the higher costs and known audience, advertisers put more into these spots than they would spots for any other show.

Furthermore, studies show these ads have tremendous impact. The current mayor of my home town announced his his candidacy during the half-time of the super bowl. It took him from a unknown to defeating the incombant in the primary by almost 3 to 1 in only three months. He went on to destroy the other candidate in the general election. Cost him a ton of money, but he didn't have to spend any more.

135 posted on 01/25/2005 3:48:09 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: Military family member

I also found it on Amazon


136 posted on 01/25/2005 3:50:57 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: mhking

The Oscars jumped the shark the year that Titanic won best picture, mainly for showing the movie actresses and Celine Dion all wearing that heart of the ocean necklace.


137 posted on 01/25/2005 3:52:28 PM PST by rintense
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To: Borges

No I call 2001 daring, bold and innovative and I saw that picture when it came out as a kid. But that picture was also mainstream and not an Art House flick.
Remember what the late great Harry Cohn of Columbia said about movie critics, "They can tell you how to do it, but they can't F'ing doing it themselves"
Most critics look for something that is not there, Perfection, these people don't look for entertainment, which is what most people want out of a movie.


138 posted on 01/25/2005 3:57:50 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Military family member
"Passion is already out on DVD. I rented it a few weeks ago."

Yes, thanks. My post (and kellynla's prior to mine,) was that I was going to purchase the DVD of "The Passion" on the day of "The Oscars."

Voting my feelings about "The Oscars" with my pocketbook.

139 posted on 01/25/2005 4:00:22 PM PST by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Argus
Master and Commander was nominated for Best Pic last year. Deserved to win, but didn't.

I loved that pic, and I am still holding out hope for a sequel, but I question if the lackluster Box Office it did will warrant it, it's a shame.

140 posted on 01/25/2005 4:02:11 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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