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All Muslims Are Not Terrorists, But All Terrorists Are Muslim
Jan. 25, 2005 | The UPS man

Posted on 01/25/2005 5:59:13 PM PST by The UPS man

1979) The Shah of Iran is deposed by Islamic fanatics. Months later Muslims stormed the US embassy and took hostages. Carter retaliates with a handful of troops against an entire country. Result...Burning choppers of Americans in the desert.

1982) US Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Muslims. Reagan sent in Marines. In '83 their barracks were blown up, Dems whined until Reagan withdrew.

1985) Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro was seized and a 69 year old American was shot and thrown overboard. Reagan tells the Dems to shut-up, Ollie North captures the terrorists for Italy and hands them over to the Italian government who promptly releases them.

1986) West Berlin discotheque bombed killing American soldiers. Reagan smashes Libya and the French Embassy. All while winning the Cold War.

1988) Pan AM 103, blown up by Muslims.

1990) Hussein invades Kuwait, George H.W. Bush went to war the way Libs like--with our UN allies. Still the Dems complained saying he didn't finish off Hussein. Interestingly, on our way to Baghdad under G.W. Bush the Dems insisted we stop outside the city. First bashing Bush 1 for stopping short of killing Hussein, then blasting Bush 2 for actually taking him out. Mind boggling.

1993) Feb, WTC bombed, Clinton did nothing. Oct, 18 US troops killed in Somalia, Clinton pulled out.

1995) 5 killed and 35 wounded by car bomb in Saudi. Clinton did nothing.

1996) Air Force complex bombed in Saudi. Clinton sat. Same year Saddam attacks Kurds. Clinton lobs a few bombs hundreds of miles away from any of Saddam's military.

1997) Iraq threatens to shoot down US planes. Clinton does nothing.

1998) Clinton threatens to bomb Iraq but UN said no. In the same year the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania are bombed by Muslims. Clinton did nothing.

1999) The only time Clinton goes to war. However he attacks the Serbians who were trying to fight off a Muslim invasion.

2000) USS Cole bombed by Muslims. Clinton, again, did nothing.

See a pattern here? Enter George W. Bush, 9/11/01, Muslims attack and murder over 3000 Americans. Bush later gives the "Axis of Evil" speech, citing Iran, Iraq, And North Korea. Dems whine about including North Korea in the "Axis". So we go into Iraq and the Dems change their tune to "Why aren't we in North Korea?"

No attacks to date on American soil since.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; islam; koranpersecution; muslims

1 posted on 01/25/2005 5:59:13 PM PST by The UPS man
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To: The UPS man

Your assessment is correct of course. However, Willy did authorize Operation Desert Fox: http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/desert_fox/

Just a historical note.


2 posted on 01/25/2005 6:02:23 PM PST by Rocky Mountain High
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To: The UPS man
Here are some more details for your list:

The sovereign territory of the US embassy in Beirut was bombed on April 18, 1983 by the Muslim group Islamic Jihad killing 17 Americans,

A suicidal Islamic terrorist drove a truckload of explosives into the US Marine Corps Headquarters at the Beirut airport on October 23, 1983 killing 239 US servicemen,

An Islamic jihadist warrior drove a truckload of explosives into the sovereign territory of the US embassy in Kuwait on December 12, 1983 killing six and injuring many more,

A Muslim suicide bomber from Islamic Jihad drove a truckload of explosives into the sovereign territory of the US embassy in East Beirut Lebanon on September 20, 1984 killing 14,

Four Arabic Islamic militants hijacked a Kuwaiti Airbus en route to Pakistan on December 4, 1984 and, after forcing the plane to land in Iran, shot and killed two US government officials,

Two Muslim members of Islamic Jihad hijacked a TWA flight en route to Rome on June 14, 1985 and, after forcing the plane to land in Beirut, brutally beat, then shot US Navy Diver Robert Stethem,

Four Islamic militants hijacked the Italian Cruise ship Achille Lauro on October 7, 1985 and, while the ship was off the coast of Syria, the Muslim gunmen shot, killed and dumped into the sea the 69 year old wheelchair bound American Leon Klinghoffer,

Anti West Islamic terrorists hijacked an Egyptian Boeing 737 flight en route to Cairo on November 23, 1985 and forced it to land in Malta where 57 of the 98 passengers and crew were killed in a gun battle with Egyptian troops,

Seven Islamic terrorists conducted simultaneous attacks on the ticket counters at Rome's Leonardo da Vinci airport and Vienna's Schwechat Airport on December 27, 1985 killing 18 and seriously wounding 110 Western tourists,

Islamic militants planted and exploded a bomb on board a TWA flight en route to Athens on April 2, 1986 killing four Western tourists, including a infant, who were swept out of the gaping hole in the damaged fuselage,

Libyan funded Islamic terrorists exploded a bomb at the La Belle discotheque in West Berlin on April 5, 1986 killing 1 US serviceman and seriously wounding about 50 US military personnel,

Four Arabic speaking Islamic gunmen stormed their way on board a Pan Am 747 flight en route to New York during a stopover at Karachi on September 5, 1986 killing 21 passengers,

Two Arabic speaking Islamic gunmen entered a synagogue in Istanbul on September 6, 1986 and opened fire with submachine guns and hand grenades killing 21 of the congregation,

A navy vessel of the Islamic State of Iran with 26 Islamic militants aboard was captured by US forces on September 21, 1987 after it was discovered laying mines in the Persian Gulf, in international waters used by US ships as an anchorage,

The Islamic State of Iran launched numerous unprovoked speedboat attacks against international and US shipping interests from oil platforms in the Persian Gulf before the US Navy destroyed the platform bases from which the attacks were launched on October 19, 1987,

Eight Arabic speaking Islamic militants hijacked a Kuwaiti 747 flight en route to Kuwait on April 5, 1988 killing two passengers before the Algerian government gave the hijackers free passage out of the country,

The Islamic State of Iran launched a naval attack against US ships in the Persian Gulf on April 18, 1988 destroying one US Cobra gunship before losing one missile patrol boat, three large armed speedboats and two frigates in the United States' ongoing battle to prevent Iran from laying mines in International waters to harass international Persian Gulf shipping,

The Islamic State of Iran launched yet another naval attack against US ships in the Persian Gulf on July 3, 1988 during which the USS Ship Vincennes, battling Iranian gunships in International waters, spotted an unidentified aircraft approaching from a known military airfield and shot the aircraft down, mistaking a commercial Iranian Airbus for an attacking Iranian F-14,

Muslim terrorists, sponsored by the Islamic State of Libya, bombed a Pan Am 747 flight over Lockerbie Scotland on December 21, 1988 killing all 259 Western passengers on board and 11 others on the ground,

The Islamic State of Libya scrambled two MiG 23s armed with missiles to attack two US F-14s on patrol over international waters on January 4, 1989; the MiGs were shot down by the US planes after the Libyan pilots pursued them with clear, hostile intent,

Muslim Cleric Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, leader of the Islamic State of Iran, declared a fatwa on February 14,1989 calling for the death of author Salman Rushdie for writing a work of fiction entitled "The Satanic Verses",

A chemical plant, located in the town of Rabta in the Islamic Nation of Libya, known to produce chemical weapons, was "burned down" on March 14, 1990 in an elaborate hoax, designed to divert attention from Libya's resumed production of poison gas,

On April 10, 1990 British Customs officials seized precision steel tubes designed for a large gun capable of firing nuclear and chemical weapons which were bound for the Arab nation of Iraq,

Muslim militants, sponsored by the Islamic State of Libya, captured and held 47 hostages (including the country's prime minister) in the Caribbean nation of Trinidad and Tobago on July 27, 1990 in a failed coup attempt to establish an Islamic state on the Caribbean island,

The Arab nation of Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 2, 1990 and soon announced Kuwait had been annexed to Iraq and no longer existed, then refused to allow 10,000 Westerners to leave either Iraq or Kuwait,

Following a United Nations resolution passed on November 29, 1990, requiring the Arab nation of Iraq to withdraw from Kuwait by January 15, 1991, the United States led a United Nations coalition on January 17, 1991 attacking Iraq,

The United States declared the battle with the Arab nation of Iraq to be over on February 27, 1991 after freeing Kuwait, but without deposing Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein or capturing the capital Baghdad,

The United Nations passed the first of many resolutions on April 3, 1991 requiring the Arab nation of Iraq to destroy it's weapons of mass destruction in order to comply with the permanent cease fire agreement; then was required to pass a resolution to impose the Northern and Southern No Fly Zones when Saddam Hussein attacked the Kurds in the North and the Shiites in the south,

United Nations inspectors reported to the UN Security Council on July 30, 1991 they had discovered four times the amount of chemical and biological weapons the Arab nation of Iraq had previously acknowledged having as part of the UN cease fire agreement,

United Nations inspectors were held against their will in a parking lot by Arab Iraqi soldiers after discovering documents on September 24, 1991 that provided details of the Arab nation of Iraq's secret nuclear weapons program in violation of the cease fire agreement,

The Islamic Sudanese government, with the support and encouragement of the Islamic State of Iran, drove 400,000 Christians and non Muslims from it's capital Khartoum on February 21, 1992 into the surrounding desert without food, water, or shelter to a virtual death sentence; while the local Sudanese Muslims agreed to offer assistance, only if the refugees first converted to Islam,

Islamic fundamentalists, hoping to kill at least 250,000 Americans, bombed the World Trade Center in New York on February 26, 1993 killing 6 and seriously injuring more than a thousand,

Islamic militants on October 4, 1993 attacked and killed 12 US Marines and seriously wounded another 74 US marines who were implementing an United Nations mandated humanitarian relief mission to prevent starvation in Mogadishu Somalia,

Four Muslim militants from the Algerian Armed Islamic Group kidnapped a French Airbus flight en route to Paris on December 24, 1994 killing three and injuring many others,

Islamic militants exploded a bomb on a commuter train in Paris on July 25, 1995 killing 4 and injuring more than 80 Westerners,

Islamic militants exploded a bomb in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia on November 13, 1996 killing five Americans and injuring 60 others,

Islamic militants ambushed, shot and killed 18 Western tourists outside their hotel in Cairo on April 4, 1996,

Saudi Muslim militants with the support of the Islamic State of Iran exploded a massive truck bomb on June 25, 1996 in Saudi Arabia killing 19 US servicemen and seriously injuring several hundred others on the perimeter of the Khobar Towers military complex near the city of Az-Zahran,

Islamic militants in Afghanistan, with the support and funding of the Islamic States of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, seized control of Kabul on September 27, 1996 and established an Islamic State under the rule of a repressive regime known as the Taliban,

An Islamic militant opened fire on the observation deck of the Empire State Building in New York on February 23, 1997 killing 1 tourist and seriously wounding six other Western tourists,

Islamic militants launched a bomb attack on a tourist bus in Cairo on September 18, 1997 killing 10 Western tourists,

Muslim militants from the Algerian Armed Islamic Group massacred 85 people on September 23, 1997 on the outskirts of Algiers following an almost identical massacre the previous month,

Six Islamic militants opened fire on non Muslim Western tourists in Luxor Egypt on November 17, 1997 killing 60 of the Western tourists and 10 Egyptians,

Muslim militants from the Algerian Armed Islamic Group launched a series of massacres in Algeria aimed at the non Muslim European population in which over 250 people were killed in successive attacks on December 23rd, 24th, 25th, 27th and 31st, 1997,

The Islamic Nation of Iran test fired a medium range missile purchased from North Korea on July 23, 1998,

Iraq's leader Saddam Hussein announced the Arab nation of Iraq was ceasing all cooperation with UN weapons inspectors,

Islamic militants under the direction of Osama bin Laden simultaneously exploded two bombs on August 7, 1998 destroying the sovereign territories of the US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania killing 270 embassy employees and staff members,

The United States Navy fired Tomahawk missiles from warships in the Persian Gulf to destroy a chemical factory in Sudan, suspected of manufacturing nerve gas, and an Islamic military training camp run by Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan,

Islamic militants kidnapped 16 non Muslim Western tourists in Yemen on December 28, 1998 killing 4 British and Australian citizens,

A suspected suicidal Muslim pilot was believed to have purposely crashed an Egypt Air Flight into the sea shortly after takeoff from New York on October 31, 1999 killing all 217 on board,

An Islamic militant, Ahmed Ressam, driving an automobile loaded with explosives and carrying a detailed map of Los Angeles airport, to be used in a terror attack known as the Millennium Plot, was stopped on December 14, 1999 at the US border with Canada by Customs; Ressam was captured after he attempted to flee on foot,

Egyptian Muslims killed 24 Coptic Christians on January 2, 2000 in the village of Al-Kosheh south of Cairo,

Islamic militants attacked non Muslims and Christians in the Nigerian city of Kaduna, on February 21, 2000 as part of the Muslim population's imposition of sharia law; Kaduna was to become the site of more Islamic violence in 2002 when militant Islamists killed over 100 non Muslims and seriously wounded hundreds more in protests sparked by a newspaper report of a beauty pageant,

Arab supported Muslim militants from the Islamic group Abu Sayyaf took 21 non Muslim Western tourists as hostages on April 23, 2000 in the Southern Philippines,

Arab inspired Islamic militants began the second intifada after Israeli politician Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount in Jerusalem on September 28, 2000 resulting in the deaths of over one thousand Israelis and Palestinians,

Islamic militants in Yemen exploded a small boat alongside the USS Cole on October 12, 2000 killing 17 US Navy crewmen and crippling the navy destroyer,

Muslim militants from the Arab supported Islamic Abu Sayyaf group exploded five bombs in Manila on December 31, 2000 killing 14,

Muslim militants from the Algerian Armed Islamic Group slaughtered 27 people, mostly women and children, on February 10, 2001 in Algeria,

Islamic militants shot and killed one of the first Kuwaiti woman journalists and the editor and owner of the magazine Al Majales in her car on March 20, 2001,

The Muslim leaders of the Islamic State of Afghanistan, the Taliban, issued a Nazi like decree on May 22, 2001 requiring all non Muslims to wear an identifying badge,

Eight Islamic militants with ties to Osama bin Laden were arrested in Yemen on June 19, 2001 when their plot to bomb the sovereign territory of the US embassy in Sana was discovered,

Nineteen Islamic militants, 15 of whom were Saudis, hijacked 4 American commercial airliners on September 11, 2001 and crashed two of them into the World Trade Center Towers in New York, one into the Pentagon in Washington DC and one, planned to be crashed into either the White House or Congress, into an empty field in Pennsylvania. Over 3100 Americans were killed,

The first of 5 deaths and 18 infections from a well coordinated Anthrax attack on the United States, initiated through the US mails using letters containing anti American Islamic messages, occurred on October 5, 2001,

An Islamic suicide bomber attempted to explode a shoe bomb aboard an American Airlines flight en route to Miami on December 22, 2001.

3 posted on 01/25/2005 6:10:55 PM PST by BullDog108 (Know Your Enemy! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
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To: The UPS man

Telephone call for Timothy McVeigh.


4 posted on 01/25/2005 6:13:46 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: BullDog108

Would all those Demoncrats who voted for Kerry trust their lives to a moozlin? I doubt that. Dumbocrats talk a good deal but say nothing.


5 posted on 01/25/2005 6:16:20 PM PST by zoosha
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To: BikerNYC
Telephone call for Timothy McVeigh.

Not to mention the 200+ suicide belt attacks of the Hindu Tamil Tigers.

Or the bombing of Air India flight 182 which killed 329 people, committed by Sikhs.

6 posted on 01/25/2005 6:19:14 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: BullDog108; The UPS man
Yeah, but other than these things it's still the "Religion of Peace," Right?

Allah FUBAR!

7 posted on 01/25/2005 6:21:57 PM PST by skimbell
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To: The UPS man

There are plenty of non-muslim terrorist groups.


8 posted on 01/25/2005 6:23:54 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: BikerNYC

McVeigh? Didn't you get the double secret, hush-hush memo that said he once talked to a muslim? And, and if we only knew what they knew, we would see that in reality he WAS A MUSLIM....


9 posted on 01/25/2005 6:24:58 PM PST by Drango (To Serve Man.....IT'S A COOKBOOK!)
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To: The UPS man
If you are going to paraphrase someone else's work, please give proper credit.
10 posted on 01/25/2005 6:25:55 PM PST by wmichgrad ("We must find a way to help the liberals!" Sean Hannity November 9, 2004)
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To: BikerNYC; The UPS man

I was just about to say the same thing. Somehow I don't recall Ted Kaczynski and Tim McVeigh being Muslim. While I'd agree that our biggest threat nowadays are from Muslim terrorists, saying that all terrorists were and are Muslims just weakens your case because it's much easier to dismiss what you're saying.


11 posted on 01/25/2005 6:28:12 PM PST by Ex-Dem (AFL-CIO - Where organized labor becomes organized crime.)
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To: Rocky Mountain High

Shouldn't it be Operation Desert Faux?


12 posted on 01/25/2005 6:28:25 PM PST by agincourt1415 (Abolish the United Nations)
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To: Strategerist
Probably also news to the IRA that they are Muslim, and not Catholic.
13 posted on 01/25/2005 6:29:16 PM PST by jude24 ("To go against conscience is neither right nor safe." - Martin Luther)
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To: The UPS man

Not all, but 99% of the ones who have attacked the USA. Otherwise, there's the IRA in Ireland, etc.


14 posted on 01/25/2005 6:31:26 PM PST by cyborg
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To: The UPS man
All Muslims Are Not Terrorists, But All Terrorists Are Muslim

Close, but no cigar. IRA, the Basque movement, Sikhs, too many to mention. Close, but no cigar, and I'm kind of surprised this (non labeled) vanity hasn't been yanked.

FMCDH(BITS)

15 posted on 01/25/2005 6:44:03 PM PST by nothingnew (Kerry is gone...perhaps to Lake Woebegone)
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To: nothingnew
It's not a vanity. He ripped off Ann!

How 9/11 Happened

Ann Coulter
April 1, 2004

We don't need a "commission" to find out how 9-11 happened. The truth is in the timeline:

PRESIDENT CARTER, DEMOCRAT

In 1979, President Jimmy Carter allowed the Shah of Iran to be deposed by a mob of Islamic fanatics. A few months later, Muslims stormed the U.S. Embassy in Iran and took American Embassy staff hostage.

Carter retaliated by canceling Iranian visas. He eventually ordered a disastrous and humiliating rescue attempt, crashing helicopters in the desert.

PRESIDENT REAGAN, REPUBLICAN

The day of Reagan's inauguration, the hostages were released.

In 1982, the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Muslim extremists.

President Reagan sent U.S. Marines to Beirut.

In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut were blown up by Muslim extremists.

Reagan said the U.S. would not surrender, but Democrats threw a hissy fit, introducing a resolution demanding that our troops be withdrawn. Reagan caved in to Democrat caterwauling in an election year and withdrew our troops – bombing Syrian-controlled areas on the way out. Democrats complained about that, too.

In 1985, an Italian cruise ship, the Achille Lauro, was seized and a 69-year-old American was shot and thrown overboard by Muslim extremists.

Reagan ordered a heart-stopping mission to capture the hijackers after "the allies" promised them safe passage. In a daring operation, American fighter pilots captured the hijackers and turned them over to the Italians – who then released them to safe harbor in Iraq.

On April 5, 1986, a West Berlin discotheque frequented by U.S. servicemen was bombed by Muslim extremists from the Libyan Embassy in East Berlin, killing an American.

Ten days later, Reagan bombed Libya, despite our dear ally France refusing the use of their airspace. Americans bombed Gadhafi's residence, killing his daughter, and dropped a bomb on the French Embassy "by mistake."

Reagan also stoked a long, bloody war between heinous regimes in Iran and Iraq. All this was while winning a final victory over Soviet totalitarianism.

PRESIDENT BUSH I, MODERATE REPUBLICAN

In December 1988, a passenger jet, Pan Am Flight 103, was bombed over Lockerbie, Scotland, by Muslim extremists.

President-elect George Bush claimed he would continue Reagan's policy of retaliating against terrorism, but did not. Without Reagan to gin her up, even Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher went wobbly, saying there would be no revenge for the bombing.

In 1990, Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait.

In early 1991, Bush went to war with Iraq. A majority of Democrats opposed the war, and later complained that Bush didn't "finish off the job" with Saddam.

PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, DEMOCRAT

In February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered.

Clinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: "The youth ... realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat."

In November 1995, five Americans were killed and 30 wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

Months later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam's forces.

In November 1997, Iraq refused to allow U.N. weapons inspections to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a U.S. U-2 spy plane.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

In February 1998, Clinton threatened to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the United Nations said no.

On Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

On Aug. 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury.

Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory.

On Dec. 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day.

Clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against Iraq, described by the New York Times as "by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991."

The only time Clinton decided to go to war with anyone in the vicinity of Muslim fanatics was in 1999 – when Clinton attacked Serbians who were fighting Islamic fanatics.

In October 2000, our warship, the USS Cole, was attacked by Muslim extremists.

Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing.

PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSH, REPUBLICAN

Bush came into office telling his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, he was "tired of swatting flies" – he wanted to eliminate al-Qaida.

On Sept. 11, 2001, when Bush had been in office for barely seven months, 3,000 Americans were murdered in a savage terrorist attack on U.S. soil by Muslim extremists.

Since then, Bush has won two wars against countries that harbored Muslim fanatics, captured Saddam Hussein, immobilized Osama bin Laden, destroyed al-Qaida's base, and begun to create the only functioning democracy in the Middle East other than Israel. Democrats opposed it all – except their phony support for war with Afghanistan, which they immediately complained about and said would be a Vietnam quagmire. And now they claim to be outraged that in the months before 9-11, Bush did not do everything Democrats opposed doing after 9-11.

What a surprise.
16 posted on 01/25/2005 6:49:23 PM PST by wmichgrad ("We must find a way to help the liberals!" Sean Hannity November 9, 2004)
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To: agincourt1415

If you were one of the pilots flying through concentrated AA and SAM fire, it was probably real enough.


17 posted on 01/25/2005 6:55:20 PM PST by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Dog Gone
There are plenty of non-muslim terrorist groups.

Plenty? I can think of only four. Granted, my knowledge is probably limited, but I can't think there are more than a dozen, many of which are small and inconsequential.

More importantly, how many of these non-muslim terrorist groups have attacked the United States? How many have dedicated themselves to destroying us?

18 posted on 01/25/2005 7:17:04 PM PST by pillbox_girl
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To: pillbox_girl

I'm gonna regret this. I've been a student of the Mid-East, Arab politics, and Islam, for decades. I take a backseat to nobody in my distrust, dislike, and desire to totally defeat and crush our enemies in the Islamic world. But as a historian, I gotta say that Islam does not hold a monopoly on terrorism. In fact, the first hotel bombing directed at Americans I recall was in Sagion -not a hotbed of Arab unrest. Ireland has produced at least four terrorist groups, and Spain has two? Columbian narcoterrorist count in my book, as do those from Puerto Rico. The HUKs killed Americans with great pleasure, and the Shining Path were known for brutality. Bader-Meinhof, the Red Army Faction, and the Italian Red Brigade loved killing Americans. The worst attack on Lod airport was by Japanese terrorist, and Entebee was a joint action by Bader-Meinhof and Palestinians. Most of these groups had help from the Soviets, who woulda loved to destroy us. Wheew.
But given all that, I agree that the Islamic threat is larger, more prolonged, and most dangerous.


19 posted on 01/25/2005 7:55:23 PM PST by womcg (was in the hospital longer than Kerry was in-country)
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To: womcg
Ok. So it was more than half a dozen, but I still don't see more than a dozen, some of which are not active today, and other who are mre interested in killing non-Americans. And some that you list have dubious merits as terrorists. Drug cartels use terror tactics, but I don't know if they exactly count as true terror groups the way you include them. I suspect if the drug cartels could get their way cheaper through bribery and corruption, they would. I doubt you could say the same for islamic terrorists.

For many, too, you could claim that one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.

And that's the big issue here, because Muslim terrorists can not be said to be fighting for freedom by any stretch of the words. They are fighting for slavery.

20 posted on 01/25/2005 11:38:47 PM PST by pillbox_girl
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To: pillbox_girl
I consider Communism as a very real form of slavery. Nor did I ever, after witnessing VC atrocities, consider them as "freedom fighters". IMO, the "one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter" shibboleth is, in many cases, used to establish moral equivalence. Columbian narcoterrorist use terror and violence to reach political objectives.
Having said all that, I agree on what makes Islamic terrorist, and Islam itself, so very dangerous to us. They have a mindless, medieval, theocratic hatred for us. Their history, religion, and culture are based on violence, domination, and a dangerous mix of xenaphobia and arrogance.I some ways, they are the most dangerous enemy we have faced. An Islamic "moderate" wants us slaves, an Islamic fanatic wants us dead.
21 posted on 01/26/2005 4:49:59 AM PST by womcg (was in the hospital longer than Kerry was in-country)
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