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President: Press Conference at 10 A.M. (LIVE THREAD)
Fox News | Jay777

Posted on 01/26/2005 6:21:16 AM PST by Jay777

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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

They eat a lot of fish


401 posted on 01/26/2005 9:05:33 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: OldFriend

Thanks.


402 posted on 01/26/2005 9:06:00 AM PST by mathluv
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To: JudyinCanada
Maybe the environmentalists have been right all along.

Too much mercury.

:)

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

403 posted on 01/26/2005 9:07:05 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Why is their life expectancy only 66?


404 posted on 01/26/2005 9:08:12 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: JudyinCanada; cyborg

http://www.mcuaaar.iog.wayne.edu/HBE/HBE.html


405 posted on 01/26/2005 9:10:01 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: OXENinFLA

Rush bringing up Jeff in this first hour.


406 posted on 01/26/2005 9:11:03 AM PST by mathluv
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Thanks. Seems to be lifestyle/poverty related, no?


407 posted on 01/26/2005 9:13:09 AM PST by JudyinCanada (Five-fingered Canadian)
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To: JudyinCanada

Judy, Did you get my post to you late on the "Day in the Life of President Bush" thread for the 24th?


408 posted on 01/26/2005 9:13:20 AM PST by Pippin (I know where my wand is now! Darks has it! He's gonna use it on TROLLS!!!!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

I suppose that Franklin Roosevelt really knew what was he was doing when he thought up this brilliant Ponzi scheme.
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It had been happening even before him! But yes he accelerated it. Here is some info on this, more can be accessed from the link on my tag line.

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I ran across a 2001 dissertation on the life of Forrester Blanchard Washington, a noted black social worker in the 20s, 30s and 40s and bitter opponent of dependency welfare. Washington had fought all his life for equal employment, education, equal wages and economic sufficiency. In 1933 He was appointed by President Roosevelt to a top position at FERA (Federal Emergency Relief Agency) and reported to Harry Hopkins (a future Soviet spy in the Roosevelt administration) (97).

His article [Washington's] was based in part on 1933 data from from a FERA [another Relief agency during the Great Depression] survey which showed although Negros constituted 9.4% of the population, they made up 18.4% of the citizens receiving relief, this trend had begun before the great depression. Washington explained that only the Federal government, which was responsible for this circumstance, could remedy it. The government had become a "subsidizer for southern and northern, rural and urban, employees of Negro labor during the off-season in the industry."

As Washington explained: In the South many plantation owners have deliberately placed the Negro on the relief rolls during the "lay-off season", when plowing, chopping and cotton-picking were over and in the North, as well as in the South, manufacturing concerns have forced him on the relief rolls by instituting a color bans, either in the open or under cover, when they think public opinion is opposed to the employment of Negro labor, while white men and women are out of work (Washington 1933, p. 178). (97)

Washington clearly saw:

"The danger of making the Negro, as a race, a chronic dependant." (97)

The dissertation concludes that:

"In his FERA position Washington began to have deeper appreciation for the controlling effects of the socio-economic structures and recognized that African Americans were becoming pawns in a system that was destructive of their social welfare and future." (97)

"He correctly perceived that empowerment of the African American people was not an agenda of the Roosevelt Administration."

"Moreover, he could not be parity to a political processes that were creating dependencies in African Americans and putting them in the position of being blamed for a fate over which they had no control."

"He made a moral decision to leave his position after about 7 months." (97)

A dissertation from the Miller Center at the University of Virginia published a lengthy legislative history of welfare confirming this (108):

"Because cotton remained the least mechanized agricultural product until the 1960s, the demand for plentiful and steady cheap labor was higher in the South than, for example, in the agriculture-rich West, and a system of paternalism, or clientelism, evolved after the abolition of slavery as the most inexpensive way to retain a steady and loyal labor supply."

"recipients are made to serve as maids or to do day yard work in white homes to keep their checks. During the cotton-picking season, no one is accepted on welfare because plantations need cheap labor to do cotton-picking behind the cotton-picking machines."

"The development of a national welfare system in the 1930s threatened to provide a substitute to, and thus undercut the value of, the benefits of paternalism to workers. For this reason, southern congressional representatives were vested with the responsibility of ensuring that social welfare programs were either limited or under local control. Local control was important for many reason, among them was that benefits could be made to function in tandem with the seasonal needs of agricultural In short, voting for expanded welfare with greater local control, southern representatives were able to supply key constituents with discretionary resources." (108)

So we find white farms and industrialists using welfare for economic advantage, so they could pay African Americans the absolute minimum for a shorter amount of time while making sure they wouldn't leave and find a better paying situation.

The African American family also suffered during the dark days of slavery, where families were broken up and marriage was outlawed. Sometimes to keep slaves in order owners would threaten to sell a family member. But the family ties still stood strong; after the civil war it was reported:

African Americans also traveled in search of family members separated from them during slavery. One man walked 600 miles from Georgia to North Carolina to find his family. To locate relatives, people placed advertisements in newspapers. The Freedmen's Bureau helped many families reunite. A Union officer wrote in 1865, "Men are taking their wives and children, families which had been for a long time broken up are united and oh! such happiness." Freedom allowed African Americans to strengthen their family ties. Former slaves could marry legally. They could raise families without fearing that their children might be sold. Many families adopted children of dead relatives and friends to keep family ties strong. (94)

Isn't it an amazing thing that despite every effort by the southern racists to separate and destroy the black family, using physical force, they were unable to accomplish in hundreds of years what the scourge of welfare has done in a few decades?


409 posted on 01/26/2005 9:21:21 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/blackconservatism.htm)
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To: YaYa123

He's on now and as usual is great.


410 posted on 01/26/2005 9:24:15 AM PST by keysguy (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU)
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To: JudyinCanada; cyborg; nopardons; arasina; scross7; Tax-chick; Dead Corpse
Those are definitely possible contributory factors, though by no means, the only things that are responsible for this situation.

A lot of these maladies can be chalked up to personal lifestyle and shortsighted health care decisions on the part of people, especially men.

My father's side of the family has an extensive history of diabetes, which wouldn't ordinarily pose much of a problem-if the condition were managed properly-but which has become lethal-in certain instances-because of poor choices related to personal health.

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

411 posted on 01/26/2005 9:26:58 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: filly; Grampa Dave; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; devolve
The one good question pointed out that the Democrats have said the
economy is on the verge of collapse, but SS is just fine. "How do you
work with people who are apparently out of touch with reality?"

Excellent! And worth repeating here. Thanks!


412 posted on 01/26/2005 9:56:03 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: silent_jonny

>>After the conference, ABC (Jennings) and CBS (Rather) immediately went into "deathtoll mode", reminding everyone how terrible things are in Iraq and how there's no chance for peaceful elections. The horror, the horror ...<<

There is a reason I dumped TV in the last century... My heart thanks me.


413 posted on 01/26/2005 10:01:48 AM PST by RobRoy (I like you. You remind me of myself when I was young and stupid.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
In my case, it's two "total tools", unfortunately. One, who is covetously eying the Oval Office.

I'm sure Michael Moore covetously eyes the Desperate Housewives, too. Their chances are about equal.

414 posted on 01/26/2005 10:01:57 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Women need abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Touche.

:)

415 posted on 01/26/2005 10:28:01 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: traviskicks
Thank you for the fascinating history.

I appreciate it.

-good times, G.J.P.(Jr.)

416 posted on 01/26/2005 10:28:45 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: OldFriend
"Dr. Rice was correct. National security is the top priority of every American president."

National Security is the top responsibility of every American president.

Because that responsibility was looked at lightly during the clinton administration, not only by the President but also by the cabinet he appointed, the MSM, many in the House and Senate, we were attacked on our own ground September 11, 2001. Being attacked was not new for during the period of 1993-2000 there aprox 20 attempts of terrorism against America with 8 successful hits

The strange part of all this - for me - not only are we fighting the terrorist we are also fighting for survival with our own Congress elected to also see all measures are taken to protect the United States of America. They take an oath to do that very thing.

417 posted on 01/26/2005 10:43:26 AM PST by malia
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To: malia
Ironic, isn't it?
418 posted on 01/26/2005 11:35:06 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("Your influence counts...USE IT!" (Bob Grant)
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To: Mo1

I'm still here! Thank you all for your kind words of support.


419 posted on 01/26/2005 12:49:45 PM PST by Jeff Gannon (Listen to my radio show "Jeff Gannon's Washington" on www.RIGHTALK.com)
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To: Jeff Gannon

Oh, well done! I was just reading the rest of the thread, since I had to be gone for a few hours. I must compliment you on making a very astute point, which in case you didn't know it, was also carried by the networks!


420 posted on 01/26/2005 1:54:09 PM PST by Miss Marple
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