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"Jihadists" living in Oregon, FBI says
The Seattle Times ^ | 1/26/05 | RUKMINI CALLIMACHI

Posted on 01/26/2005 6:26:25 AM PST by ppaul

PORTLAND — The FBI knows of "jihadists" who have trained in terrorist camps in Afghanistan and are now living in Oregon, the agency's Oregon chief said in an interview with The Associated Press yesterday.

"We don't have an imminent threat that we're aware of. But I will say this: We have people here in Oregon that have trained in jihadist camps in bad areas. In the bad neighborhoods of the world," said FBI Special Agent in Charge Robert Jordan.

Asked what he meant by "bad neighborhoods," he said Afghanistan, as well as several other countries he would not specify.

During the session with The AP, which lasted nearly two hours, Jordan discussed a wide range of themes — from his agents' participation in the Bush administration's war on terrorism to the upcoming opening of a Portland laboratory for forensic work on computers seized from suspects.

Jordan refused to say how many "jihadists" live in Oregon.

He said the FBI knows "they've trained overseas, taken oaths to kill Americans and engage in jihad," but the challenge is "to prove those things."

Jordan contrasted the known "jihadists" living in Oregon with the so-called "Portland Seven," a group of seven Portland-area people accused of plotting to wage war against U.S. troops in Afghanistan. One of them was killed in combat; the six others returned to Oregon, where they eventually pleaded guilty to all the charges against them.

Discussing his office's participation in the ongoing war on terrorism, Jordan said that last fall FBI agents in Oregon took part in an analysis of crop-dusting aircraft across the country.

U.S. officials had received intelligence that al-Qaida intended to use a crop duster to spray biological or chemical weapons on American targets, he said.

Beth Anne Steele, spokeswoman for the FBI's Portland office, said it was the second time since Sept. 11, 2001, that FBI agents had interviewed owners and pilots of crop-duster planes.

The purpose is not just to make an accounting of where the aircraft are, she said, but also to encourage people who use the planes to contact the FBI if a suspicious person inquires about buying such aircraft.

Jordan said demands on the FBI's agents in Oregon have increased since the terror attacks and since the launching of the Iraq war.

He said some of his agents have been assigned to the U.S. prison for terrorism suspects at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.

Some also have been assigned to duties in Iraq. Jordan said that his chief bomb technician volunteered to go to Iraq, where he helped defuse improvised explosive devices — called IEDs — placed along roads.

Jordan also spoke of a new regional laboratory that is being set up in southeast Portland to analyze seized computers. He said the lab will have a staff of at least 12, and will include officers from local law-enforcement agencies.



TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Oregon; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; fbi; holywar; homelandsecurity; islam; islamicjihad; jihad; jihadinamerica; jihadis; jihadists; moongod; oregon; portland; religionofpeace; rop; terror; terrorism; terrorists; waronterror
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"We don't have an imminent threat that we're aware of. But I will say this: We have people here in Oregon that have trained in jihadist camps in bad areas. In the bad neighborhoods of the world," said FBI Special Agent in Charge Robert Jordan.

Gimme a break.
"We don't have an imminent threat..."
So we just let 'em stay here in the US, right?
This is supposed to be a war?
On terror?


1 posted on 01/26/2005 6:26:25 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul

If they know who they are and they aren't dead already then someone isn't doing their job.


2 posted on 01/26/2005 6:29:02 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: ppaul

bttt


3 posted on 01/26/2005 6:29:36 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: ppaul
We don't have an imminent threat that we're aware of...

There's a rattlesnake in the house, but, so far, he hasn't tried to bite anyone.

4 posted on 01/26/2005 6:29:43 AM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: ppaul

Is this part of the story yesterdy about the local police refusing to help the FBI in investigating the jihadists.


5 posted on 01/26/2005 6:30:39 AM PST by marty60
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To: Dark Skies

They'd have to detain 3/4 of the downtown Portland populace. It's more of a logistics problem than anything else.


6 posted on 01/26/2005 6:32:04 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: ppaul; Grampa Dave

7 posted on 01/26/2005 6:32:56 AM PST by SAMWolf (It's a "Mr. Death". He's come about an expired birth certificate.)
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To: ppaul; quidnunc; Grampa Dave
Wasn't one of the "DC snipers" from Oregon?

Found these posts on FBI and Oregon from 2004 too:

An American Connection? (American convert to TROP™ perhaps involved in Madrid bombings.)

Posted by quidnunc

On News/Activism 05/06/2004 5:11:33 PM PDT · 17 replies · 35+ views

Newsweek ^ | May 6, 2004 | Michael Isikoff Law-enforcement officials detain an Oregon man they say may be linked to Europe’s 9/11 FBI agents today detained a Portland, Ore., lawyer after receiving evidence from Spanish authorities that the man’s fingerprints allegedly were found on bomb-related evidence associated with the March 11 railway attack in Madrid that killed 191 people and wounded 2,000 people, Newsweek has learned. The arrest of the lawyer was described by federal law-enforcement authorities as a major investigative breakthrough that for the first time suggests links between an individual inside the United States and the Madrid bombing — the worst act of terrorist violence since...

Oregon Man Arrested in Spain Bombings Probe

Posted by Grampa Dave
On News/Activism 05/06/2004 4:25:03 PM PDT · 474 replies · 244+ views

Fox News ^ | Thursday, May 06, 2004 | Fox News Staff

WASHINGTON — FBI agents arrested a Portland, Ore., man Thursday as part of the investigation into the deadly train bombings in Spain, federal officials said.

Brandon Bieri Mayfield, a U.S. citizen, was taken into custody on a material witness warrant, said a senior law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity. The arrest, first reported in Newsweek, is the first known in the United States with connections to the March 11 bombings in Madrid.

8 posted on 01/26/2005 6:38:47 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: ppaul

Contrary to the ACLU all laws have not been suspended and roundups of all suspicious individuals are not occuring.

When the Commies were a big problem internationally FBI surveillance and infiltration of their organizations was so extensive that the American Party was kept afloat by the dues paid by the infiltrators.

Hopefully, something similiar is happening here and when it is time to act agents will be well aware of what is about to be tried. Getting informants into the groups is the main goal now so that contacts can be tracked. This means leaving most of them at large while no illegal activities are carried out.


9 posted on 01/26/2005 6:38:50 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: SAMWolf

Good Morning Sam, and thanks for posting my favorite graphic art re Portland's pro Islamo politics.


10 posted on 01/26/2005 6:39:22 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: ppaul

Didn't Portland gov't. just announce a couple weeks ago that they were pulling all support for the FBI's Joint Terror Task Force? Seems they were convinced there was no reason to conduct anti-terror ops in the Beaver State...


11 posted on 01/26/2005 6:39:34 AM PST by KitJ
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To: ppaul

BTTT


12 posted on 01/26/2005 6:42:33 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ppaul; oregon; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; ...

Oregon Ping

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Oregon Ping List.

13 posted on 01/26/2005 6:46:57 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: marty60
Is this part of the story yesterdy about the local police refusing to help the FBI in investigating the jihadists?

I don't know. However, I recall the Portland Police not wanting to provide assistance when the Feds nabbed these fine human beings charged with assisting al-Qaeda two years ago in Portland:


Top row, left to right: Patrice Lumumba Ford,
October Martinique Lewis and Jeffrey Leon
Battle. Bottom row, left to right: Muhammad
Ibrahim Bilal, Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal, and Habis
Abdulla Al-Saoub.

14 posted on 01/26/2005 6:53:55 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul

I wonder what they consider to be an 'imminent threat'? These jihadists have proven to us they intend to remain hidden until they strike. They're way to concerned about 'offending' people. And if that's the case, they've learned nothing form the 19 murderers, who posed as regular Americans, some for quite a while, until they were given the green light to murder. Men told to lie and do whatever necessary, even if it was opposed to their religious beliefs, to look 'regular' and blend in. Let's hope the FBI are doing something behind the scenes.


15 posted on 01/26/2005 6:57:01 AM PST by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune - and I won't have to.)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Yup. Jihadists should not be living..


16 posted on 01/26/2005 7:02:43 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Bikers4Bush

Actually they are better off under surveillance than dead. Their phone calls and emails and banking activities could prove valuable.


17 posted on 01/26/2005 7:04:08 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: ppaul

I think I'm talking about what #11 is pointing out.


18 posted on 01/26/2005 7:04:53 AM PST by marty60
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To: Bikers4Bush
If they know who they are and they aren't dead already then someone isn't doing their job.

Wait. We are going to fight the terrorists "over there."
Not here on our own streets!
If they're already here - leave 'em alone, right?

19 posted on 01/26/2005 7:06:43 AM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul

Isn't diversity wonderful? Let's continue to keep the borders wide open so more of them can come here and kill us. I hate to say it folks, I see big trouble in the future if we don't shut the borders down and Bush will pay a hugh political price for refusing to do so.


20 posted on 01/26/2005 7:09:26 AM PST by JarheadFromFlorida
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