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Global warming takes its toll on the world's highest mountain as Everest shrinks by 4ft
Belfast Telegraph ^ | 26 January 2005 | Michael McCarthy

Posted on 01/26/2005 8:23:02 AM PST by presidio9

It got bigger only recently, but now it may be shrinking. What on earth is happening to Mount Everest?

News reports from China yesterday said there was official concern that the top of the world's tallest mountain is getting lower ­ and melting glaciers caused by global warming may be to blame.

A scientific team is to be sent to the mountain ­ known in Chinese as Mount Qomolangma, or Goddess Mother of the World ­ to remeasure its height, according to the state-run newspaper China Daily .

But Everest was last measured in 1999, and found to be higher than previously thought. A team of scientists supported by National Geographic Magazine and Boston's Museum of Science was able for the first time to operate Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite equipment from the summit, and thus take the most precise and authoritative measurements ever. They came up with a revised elevation of 29,035ft, seven feet higher than the previously accepted figure. That had been set in 1954 by the Survey of India after picking the mean of 12 altitudes determined from 12 different survey stations around the mountain.

Now, however, the Chinese think the summit may have got lower and, according to China Daily , the State Bureau of Surveying and Mapping, working with the Chinese national women's mountaineering expedition, will use radar and GPS equipment to remeasure the peak.

The newspaper said a recent survey found the summit of Everest had dropped by more than four feet, because ofmelting glaciers resulting from global warming.

Nepalese Sherpas who often climb the peak have reported seeing widespread evidence of snowlines receding. And in 2002, a team of climbers sponsored by the United Nations Environment Programme found signs that the landscape of Mount Everest had changed significantly since Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay first conquered the peak in 1953.

The team found that the glacier that once came close to Hillary and Norgay's first camp had retreated three miles, and a series of ponds near Island Peak ­ so-called because it was then an island in a sea of ice ­ had merged into a long lake.

Roger Payne, the sports and development director at the International Mountaineering and Climbing Federation (UIAA), and one of the expedition's leaders, said it was clear that global warming was emerging as one of the biggest threats to mountain areas. "The evidence of climate change was all around us, from huge scars gouged in the landscapes by sudden, glacial floods to the lakes swollen by melting glaciers," he said.

He added that the observations of local people who lived on the lower slopes of the mountain were even more telling. The president of the Nepal Mountain Association told the expedition that he had seen significant changes over the past 20 years in the ice fields, and that these changes appeared to be accelerating.

The expedition found that climatic changes had caused problems for residents of the area. A massive flood caused by water melted from the glaciers had wiped out old wooden bridges, which had to be replaced with higher, stronger metal ones to reduce the possibility of damage from future floods.

Everest sits on the borders of Tibet (occupied by China) and Nepal. Its name in English comes from Sir George Everest, the Surveyor-General of India, who was the first to produce detailed maps of the subcontintent including the Himalayas, and first calculated the great peak's height in 1852.

Since Hillary and Norgay first made it to the top, more than 1,300 people have climbed Everest, from either the Nepalese or the Tibetan side. At least 175 climbers have died in the attempt.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarmingtheory; junkscience; mounteverest; wereallgonnadie
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Now only 29,031 feet tall...

1 posted on 01/26/2005 8:23:02 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

I shrink also when it is cold.


2 posted on 01/26/2005 8:25:20 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: presidio9

They have GOT to pass a law against erosion!


3 posted on 01/26/2005 8:25:32 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: presidio9
Support President Bush's Clear Skies Initiative today! The Earth hangs in the balance. All the snow melt from Mt. Everest will flood the herbaceous borders in YOUR BACK YARD if you don't....
4 posted on 01/26/2005 8:26:05 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Senator Boxer - For whom the bell curve tolls!)
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To: Piquaboy

It happens!

5 posted on 01/26/2005 8:27:34 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: presidio9

Just say 'NO' to entropy!


6 posted on 01/26/2005 8:28:39 AM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: presidio9

Bush's fault. So I guess the man can move mountains.


7 posted on 01/26/2005 8:28:47 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: presidio9

Proof that Ms Morford from San Francisco is NOT the dumbest person on the planet.


8 posted on 01/26/2005 8:29:22 AM PST by Zathras
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To: presidio9

Good, I always wanted to climb Everest. This should make it easier.


9 posted on 01/26/2005 8:29:30 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Piquaboy

``I shrink also when it is cold.``

Ah yes., the dreaded scare turtle syndrom.


10 posted on 01/26/2005 8:29:34 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: presidio9
Yep.

Improvement in measurement techniques is the result of Global Warming.

I knew it all the time.

11 posted on 01/26/2005 8:30:06 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: presidio9
Now only 29,031 feet tall...

Erosion.

12 posted on 01/26/2005 8:30:16 AM PST by Lazamataz (I still choose to hyperventilate.)
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To: presidio9
I guess this is what happens to my laundry. I know it can't be my fault
13 posted on 01/26/2005 8:31:10 AM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: mlbford2

If I shrunk any more I would be a queen.


14 posted on 01/26/2005 8:31:41 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: presidio9

If the Chinese and Indians are concerned, they can join the Kyoto Protocol. Oh, wait a minute, those two countries are both exempt...


15 posted on 01/26/2005 8:32:07 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That and this... Mt Everest is rising due to a collision of rocks under the surface. It's bound to produce some sort of heat. Any one else thing that?


16 posted on 01/26/2005 8:32:11 AM PST by MacDorcha
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To: mlbford2
Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay first conquered the peak in 1953.

Obviously named after Hillary Rodham, who was born October 26, 1947.

17 posted on 01/26/2005 8:32:32 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Zathras
Proof that Ms Morford from San Francisco is NOT the dumbest person on the planet.

HEY!

Nobody can be the dumbest at everything.

18 posted on 01/26/2005 8:32:42 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: presidio9

It's the end of the world!


19 posted on 01/26/2005 8:32:53 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: Lazamataz
Maybe plate tectonics? Mountains grow, mountains shrink. It is geology!
20 posted on 01/26/2005 8:33:04 AM PST by mnehring (Fear leads to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to the DNC.)
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To: presidio9

This is total BS. Mountains are never measured to the top of the snowpack or ice, but to the highest point of rock.


21 posted on 01/26/2005 8:33:04 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: presidio9
The newspaper said a recent survey found the summit of Everest had dropped by more than four feet, because ofmelting glaciers resulting from global warming.

Say WHAT? Scandanavia is still RISING from the melting of the Ice Age glaciers thousands of years ago - a process called isostasy. Any melting of glaciers on Everest would reduce the weight on the mountain, which would be much more likely to case a minor regional rise.

Plus, the entire region is being uplifted anyway by tectonic processes.

This is just more global warming baloney, served Szechuan style.

22 posted on 01/26/2005 8:33:33 AM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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To: Piquaboy

There is only one problem with your theory Everest Shrinks when it's warm.


23 posted on 01/26/2005 8:35:14 AM PST by Keeley Finn
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To: presidio9

Halliburton must be sucking out all the oil underneath it....


24 posted on 01/26/2005 8:35:24 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: presidio9

Certainly a direct result of Bush's re-election and my old SUV.


25 posted on 01/26/2005 8:35:53 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: presidio9

This just in: "The sky and the mountains are falling and it's Bush's fault!" C. Little


26 posted on 01/26/2005 8:35:55 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: presidio9
Now, however, the Chinese think the summit may have got lower and, according to China Daily , the State Bureau of Surveying and Mapping, working with the Chinese national women's mountaineering expedition, will use radar and GPS equipment to remeasure the peak.

They think it may have "got lower." And if the expedition proves otherwise, I bet we never hear a retraction story.

27 posted on 01/26/2005 8:36:27 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: presidio9

Question:

What is the margin of error in measuring the highest mountain in the world?

+/- 4 ft.?


28 posted on 01/26/2005 8:36:28 AM PST by L98Fiero
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To: BigBobber; All

Ya, now that you mention it it does look shorter...


29 posted on 01/26/2005 8:36:42 AM PST by filly (John F. Kennedy: "we dare not temp them with weakness...")
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To: All
It's that rushing cold water. This isn't a case of global warming. It's mother nature displaying her special powers.

Why do they keep measuring...over and over and over. It seems like a hopeless obsession to me.

30 posted on 01/26/2005 8:37:14 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: presidio9

It's about time!!! Everest has been on it's high horse long enough!!!


31 posted on 01/26/2005 8:37:22 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Sacajaweau

It's like people with OCD that check lockes except these people check mountains.


32 posted on 01/26/2005 8:38:44 AM PST by Keeley Finn
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To: Rummyfan

I feel fine!


33 posted on 01/26/2005 8:38:59 AM PST by Ingtar (Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
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To: Keeley Finn

What goes down must come up. In most cases.


34 posted on 01/26/2005 8:39:12 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: farmfriend
PING!
Click the Graphic J

35 posted on 01/26/2005 8:39:49 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: L98Fiero

BTW, the peak of MT Everest NEVER gets 4ft of snow in a year...


36 posted on 01/26/2005 8:39:59 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: farmfriend

ping


37 posted on 01/26/2005 8:40:54 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: MacDorcha
That's certainly a possibility. The check is the surface at the bottom of the mountain, intermediate points going up the mountain and the peak.

These GPS dudes are cool. One of my buddies got left in a Tower. They forgot about him and drove away. He said "Can you hear me now?" till sundown then climbed down and went home.

GPS appears to still have problems with elevations....from everything I read.

38 posted on 01/26/2005 8:42:37 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Ingtar

Oh man, now I'm going to have REM running through my head all day!


39 posted on 01/26/2005 8:43:57 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: presidio9
A team of scientists supported by National Geographic Magazine and Boston's Museum of Science was able for the first time to operate Global Positioning System (GPS) satellite equipment from the summit, and thus take the most precise and authoritative measurements ever. They came up with a revised elevation of 29,035ft, seven feet higher than the previously accepted figure. That had been set in 1954 by the Survey of India after picking the mean of 12 altitudes determined from 12 different survey stations around the mountain.

Since GPS became available for use by the general public, many previous elevations have been found to be either under or over the actual height. I have to question the "seven feet higher" measurement in 1999.

40 posted on 01/26/2005 8:45:17 AM PST by Arrowhead1952
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To: BIGLOOK
Just say 'NO' to entropy!

Ah ha! So Boyle is to blame!

41 posted on 01/26/2005 8:46:49 AM PST by cowboyway (My Hero's have always been cowboys.)
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To: DTogo
They think it may have "got lower." And if the expedition proves otherwise, I bet we never hear a retraction story.

Untrue.

Since this story is "Everest Shrinks Because Global Warming Melting the Peak", there will be a story "Everest Grows Because Global Warming Raises Seas, Pushing Everest Higher."

ALL things are caused by Global Warming.

42 posted on 01/26/2005 8:47:47 AM PST by Lazamataz (I still choose to hyperventilate.)
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To: presidio9

43 posted on 01/26/2005 8:47:54 AM PST by ProudVet77 (Survivor of the great blizzard of aught five)
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To: Lazamataz

Just wondering: Does it EVER get above freezing at the peak of Everest?


44 posted on 01/26/2005 8:49:11 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Lazamataz

And everything (bad) is Bush's fault. Thanks for reminding me!


45 posted on 01/26/2005 8:50:14 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: presidio9
Just wondering: Does it EVER get above freezing at the peak of Everest?

Stop asking sensible questions, or our environmental agenda might be foiled.

46 posted on 01/26/2005 8:50:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (I still choose to hyperventilate.)
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To: DTogo
And everything (bad) is Bush's fault. Thanks for reminding me!

The votes for the highest mountain in the world were fixed by Diebold machines in Ohio. It was a fraud!

47 posted on 01/26/2005 8:51:48 AM PST by Lazamataz (I still choose to hyperventilate.)
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To: presidio9
That's not a picture of Everest...that's actually Lhotse. (which bumps up to Everest)

Here's a picture of both.
Everest is on the left.(with the jetstream blowing snow)


48 posted on 01/26/2005 8:53:35 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: mnehrling

BINGO ,, Plate Tectonics


49 posted on 01/26/2005 8:54:55 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: mnehrling

Could be the result from the earthquake that happened last mouth that caused the tsunami , it depends when the measurement was taken.


50 posted on 01/26/2005 8:56:51 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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