Even Jesus said He wasn't good.
All our good deeds are like filthy rags anyway. It's a moot point.
Yeah, like never.
So there is no such thing as good or bad? Things that please God are not good? They are neutral? Things that displease God, sin, are not bad? They are neutral?
The good deeds thing you refer to basically refers to pride by the people who do good things. Good deeds won't get you into heaven.
PS, I'd love to get that chapter and verse about what Jesus said. Thanks
He said that out of irony...
Context Please! Jesus never said he was not Good. He ask " Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God" (see Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18, and Luke 18:19). This is not a denial of His Goodness, but a question to the man to see if the man understood who Jesus was?
It all relates to another passage of scripture:
When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elijah; and others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Christ asks who others say He is. The response the disciples gave was John the Baptist, Elijah, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets. But it was Peter who could correctly answer the question.
Actually, He said, "Why do you call me good."
He was pointing out that He was G-d and using the words of the one who asked Him the question to do it.
He did not say that. He asked someone else "Why do you call me good?" That is not the same thing.
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
In the above verse and the one in Mark you will notice that it is in two parts.
Jesus did not say He wasn't good. He asked the man why he called Him good? Then He made the statement that only God is good.
Basically what Jesus was saying to the man was if you call me good you are calling me God which Jesus was and is.
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
. The other quote you give is from the old testament book of Isaiah and it is not Jesus or God talking but Isaiah in prayer to God confessing his and the peoples sins and seeking forgiveness for himself and the nation.
It starts in Isa 63:17 and ends in Isa 64:12.
All our good deeds are like filthy rags anyway. It's a moot point
Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
My best friend of over thirty years and an older brother are agnostics. We have had a good many interesting conversations about God and the Bible but never have we lost our respect or love for one another.
I have never been the one to bring it up.
I think that one of the biggest mistakes well meaning Christians make is being over zealous.
Everything our Lord and Savior offers is free and subject to the will of those who would accept or reject it. The total price was paid By Jesus.It is not our job to save people or to judge them. We are to be ready to give an answer for the hope that is in us.
Our greatest witness is in the life we live and the love we have for our fellow man.
It is the Holy Spirit's job to call and convict.
I hope that you are not offended by my reply. MRN.