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Seymour Hersh: 'We've Been Taken Over By A Cult'
Demcracy Now ^ | 1/26/05 | Amy Goodman

Posted on 01/26/2005 3:53:39 PM PST by gopwinsin04

As the Senate Judiciary Committee voted today on the nomination of Alberto Gonzales for Attorney General, we hear a speech by investigative reporter Seymour Hersh on torture from Guantanamo to Abu Gharib to Vietnam.

Hersh is the author of 'Chain of Command: The Road from 9/11 to Abu Gharib.' He spoke last month at the Wise Free Synagogue in New York.

'The amazing thing is that we have been taken over by a cult of eight or nine neo-conservatives that have somehow grapped the government.'

'Just how and why they did it so efficiently, we will have to wait for much later hsitorians and better documentation than we have now, but they managed to overcome the bureaucracy, Congress, the press, with the greatest of ease.'

'You do have to wonder what a Democracy is when is comes down to a few men in the Pentagon and a few men in the White House having their way.'

(Excerpt) Read more at democracynow.org ...


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The maroons are coming out of the woodwork now with the Gonzales nomination next week..
1 posted on 01/26/2005 3:53:39 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

Black Helicopter Alert.


2 posted on 01/26/2005 3:56:27 PM PST by Spok
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To: Spok

Hersh has finally left the reservation. Even the New Yorker probably cannot keep him on now..


3 posted on 01/26/2005 3:57:37 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: Spok

Someone better shut him up before he starts talking about the chem trails.


4 posted on 01/26/2005 3:57:43 PM PST by Brian328i (Skimmed Oil for Food money is used to kill innocent Iraqis, where's the "No Blood for Oil" outrage?)
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To: gopwinsin04

The link did not work for me.


5 posted on 01/26/2005 3:58:25 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: gopwinsin04
'Just how and why they did it so efficiently, we will have to wait for much later hsitorians and better documentation than we have now, but they managed to overcome the bureaucracy, Congress, the press, with the greatest of ease.'

Here's a clue. They made their case to the people, and the people found it compelling. Then we got a chance to listen to your tripe, Mr. Hersh, and we thought, "yuck!"

And so we voted for Bush again. It's pretty much that simple.

6 posted on 01/26/2005 3:58:58 PM PST by burrian
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To: gopwinsin04

Isn't it illegal to "grape" a government?


7 posted on 01/26/2005 3:59:34 PM PST by SycoDon
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To: Bahbah

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/26/1450204


8 posted on 01/26/2005 3:59:51 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
Taken over by a cult? Oh, shi'ite, you haven't seen the cult yet...what you are looking at is a basket of puppies compared to the cult of Islam...which is spawning all over the world as we speak.

Death to Planet Taliban!

9 posted on 01/26/2005 4:00:26 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: gopwinsin04

Canada beckons. Be gone, Seymour.


10 posted on 01/26/2005 4:00:38 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: burrian

Even the moonbat left will have to distance themselves from him now.


11 posted on 01/26/2005 4:01:10 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: Dark Skies

12 posted on 01/26/2005 4:01:59 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
Even the moonbat left will have to distance themselves from him now.

Amy Goodman is the queen of the moonbat left. She seems to think he's the bee's knees.

13 posted on 01/26/2005 4:04:41 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson (GOP newby)
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To: gopwinsin04
I'm with you...here comes the crusade!


14 posted on 01/26/2005 4:04:49 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: gopwinsin04
I wouldn't count on it. This is pretty much what the moonbat Left believes: that some strange cult has taken over. Hence the moonbattiness! ;)

No, Hersh, will just get a promotion within his cult for "telling it like it is!"

15 posted on 01/26/2005 4:05:11 PM PST by burrian
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To: gopwinsin04

The voices are coming from under the floorboards, Seymour. Remove, slowly, each floorboard, Seymour. One at a time...relax...take your meds....


16 posted on 01/26/2005 4:07:31 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Brilliant

Cy would move to Europe, he would find an enthralled audience over there..


17 posted on 01/26/2005 4:09:21 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

They are coming to take him away... the little men in white coats


18 posted on 01/26/2005 4:10:26 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
".... eight or nine neo-conservatives that have somehow grapped the government.'

'Just how and why they did it so efficiently, we will have to wait for much later hsitorians....

Grapping Hsitorians?, Would this make them Grapists? O! the horror

On another note, would someone tell Mr. Hersh that we live in a Republic and not a democracy. Thank you

19 posted on 01/26/2005 4:10:28 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: gopwinsin04

I had the feeling that Hersch was a member of a "cult."

I read his "interview." It sounds like a panicked rant with cult-like logically feeble connect-the-dot conclusions.


20 posted on 01/26/2005 4:10:58 PM PST by Shermy
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To: burrian; Fedora

"Just how and why they did it so efficiently, we will have to wait for much later hsitorians and better documentation than we have now, but they managed to overcome the bureaucracy, Congress, the press, with the greatest of ease.'"

I had thought Hersch saw himself as overcoming the bureaucracy. His comment is telling, suggesting his information from whatever faction in the govt. is weak.

His Vietnamization of his argument is near Kerry-esque.


21 posted on 01/26/2005 4:13:10 PM PST by Shermy
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To: gopwinsin04

Dear Seymour: When you get a majority of the electorate on your side, then you can run the government. It's not a cult, it's the government the U.S. public voted for.


22 posted on 01/26/2005 4:15:47 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: gopwinsin04

Thank you very much for the link. He sounds like a raving lunatic.


23 posted on 01/26/2005 4:19:14 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Dark Skies

Let us not be hasty negative reactions on this "cult" deal. Cults are protected by the ACLU. Some cults sanction human sacrifice. As an "investigative reporter", I'll bet Seymour would love to infiltrate a secret cult meeting...


24 posted on 01/26/2005 4:20:14 PM PST by womcg (was in the hospital longer than Kerry was in-country)
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To: popdonnelly

How can anyone consider him an objective reporter after stuff like this.

I mean anyone who goes into maniacal rantburg like this should not be trusted to produce articles for the mainstream press.

If you think about it, if the Iranians believed what he wrote last week, that could start a devasting war.

Shouldn't he be locked for national security or something?


25 posted on 01/26/2005 4:20:38 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: gopwinsin04

Gonzales is anti 2nd amendment and pro abortion...heck you'd think the anti America
of our founders...would be happy to confrim him...

sheesh...


26 posted on 01/26/2005 4:21:45 PM PST by joesnuffy (Truth is truth, even if no one believes it..and a lie, is a lie, even if everyone believes it.)
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To: gopwinsin04
>'The amazing thing is that we have been taken over by a cult of eight or nine neo-conservatives that have somehow grapped the government

You just know the Left
must be aching to embrace
the Icke theory

that the Bush family
is infused with lizard blood
down from outer space!






27 posted on 01/26/2005 4:22:19 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: gopwinsin04
Hersh is as biased as a stiff erection and a self appointed hitman for the left.

His principle purpose in life is to dig up crap to fling at the Bush administration or any conservative in power.

28 posted on 01/26/2005 4:23:05 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: gopwinsin04
If I ever get the chance, I'm going to Krazy Glue Seymour's tongue to his forehead.


29 posted on 01/26/2005 4:32:48 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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To: Shermy

"His Vietnamization of his argument is near Kerry-esque."

Did Hersh mention that he reported in Vietnam? :-)


30 posted on 01/26/2005 4:38:22 PM PST by Fedora
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To: theFIRMbss
Here is the thing about aliens...they aren't alien. Check "nephilim" in the Book of Enoch, and Michael Heiser on Amazon, and remember...this is what is behind the left and Islam...


31 posted on 01/26/2005 4:40:28 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Shermy; Congressman Billybob; Howlin; neverdem
"Just how and why they did it so efficiently, we will have to wait for much later historians and better documentation than we have now, but they managed to overcome the bureaucracy, Congress, the press, with the greatest of ease.'"


So the majority of Americans (those who twice voted for Bush! and for republicans in Congress since Newt's Reformation in 1994) DID manage to overcome the bureaucracy, the PRESS, and the (lying democrats in) Congress.

Despite those times when the press TRIED to lead us in a different direction?

So, he's admitting the press IS deliberately against conservatives in general, and Bush in particular!

And, by the way, he's absolutely REJECTING the majority of Americans who recognized the democrats lies for what they are.

32 posted on 01/26/2005 4:42:11 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Dark Skies
>Here is the thing about aliens...they aren't alien. Check "nephilim" in the Book of Enoch, and Michael Heiser on Amazon, and remember...this is what is behind the left and Islam...

Now, be honest. You
drank from the Cup of Scully
didn't you? Oh yeah . . .






33 posted on 01/26/2005 4:48:17 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

Cup of Skully....hmmmm...I am in that line but she's gonna slap me cause I ain't puckering up for nuttin'...


34 posted on 01/26/2005 4:50:58 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: gopwinsin04

tell Hersh to mention it at the next Bohemian Grove.


35 posted on 01/26/2005 4:51:18 PM PST by isom35
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To: JustDoItAlways

I agree. If Hersh really had information about secret operations in Iran, shouldn't he have kept it quiet?


36 posted on 01/26/2005 4:54:35 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: gopwinsin04
Hersh is the author of 'Chain of Command: The Road from 9/11 to Abu Gharib.' He spoke last month at the Wise Free Synagogue in New York.

Looks like he found his niche.

37 posted on 01/26/2005 4:57:11 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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'The amazing thing is that we have been taken over by a cult of eight or nine neo-conservatives that have somehow grapped the government.'

Ah Seymour, you should have read my longtime tag line. - Tom

38 posted on 01/26/2005 4:58:16 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: gopwinsin04

Great graphic ~ Bump!


39 posted on 01/26/2005 5:00:21 PM PST by blackie
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.........that have somehow grapped the government.......

"grabbed"?

For a bunch of supposed important journalists they sure don't know how to spell.

40 posted on 01/26/2005 5:00:26 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: gopwinsin04

Does anyone want to bet me that Hersh looks under his bed at night for the bogeyman? This guy doesn't just wear a tinfoil hat, folks...he wears the whole tinfoil suit!


41 posted on 01/26/2005 5:02:10 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: gopwinsin04

Ah hell - the title led me to beleive that Hersh finally realized the Democrat Party has been taken over by the Cult of Moonbats.


42 posted on 01/26/2005 5:04:23 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: DoctorMichael
>".........that have somehow grapped the government......."
>>"grabbed"?

I think -- I'm not sure --
the porn world has a word: "gapped"
Don't know what it means . . .

43 posted on 01/26/2005 5:12:23 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Did you read the whole article at the link? Sey Hersh sounds like he's losing it.


44 posted on 01/26/2005 5:57:19 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

45 posted on 01/26/2005 5:59:19 PM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Shermy
After reading the interview, it's apparent that the vaunted Seymour Hersh is:

a. Incoherent.

b. Still living in My Lai, so to speak.

c. An out-and-out racist, who hates whitey.

A curious creature preserved in formaldehyde, straight out of the seventies...

46 posted on 01/26/2005 6:29:17 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: gopwinsin04
Hersh has finally left the reservation. Even the New Yorker probably cannot keep him on now..

That is EXACTLY what popped into my mind.

They're being driven so crazy (by righteousness and goodness, no less) that their masks of "moderation and reason" are dropping and their real selves are being exposed.

Surprise surprise (not), they are really what we've always perceived. Moonbats.

47 posted on 01/26/2005 6:30:55 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: JustDoItAlways
I mean anyone who goes into maniacal rantburg like this should not be trusted to produce articles for the mainstream press.

The Brits have their Robert Fiske.

And we have Seymour Hersh.

48 posted on 01/26/2005 6:31:28 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: gopwinsin04

Personally I would rather have about a Dozen Jack Bauer types from the TV show "24" getting information out of these Terrorist suspects and preventing problems rather than waitng for the next shoe to drop like our Democrat friends would.


49 posted on 01/26/2005 6:32:18 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: okie01

Headline:
Hersh jumps shark with neo-con conspiracy.


50 posted on 01/26/2005 6:35:25 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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