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Gay-Affirmative Public School Teachers/Curricula May Influence Brain Maturation In Teens
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Posted on 01/26/2005 4:43:08 PM PST by scripter

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To: LauraleeBraswell; MoochPooch
Some people are born with homosexual tendencies. For others it is a choice.

No one is born with tendencies to commit homosexuality. Every 'gay gene' study that has 'found' a genetic link has been debunked. There is no way to tell a corpse was a 'homosexual'

'Homosexuality' more correctly known as Same-sex Attraction Disorder (SAD) is a mental disease. It is curable.

Everyone is born heterosexual, look at biology for a confirmation of this. Man fits together with woman perfectly and productively. No other arrangement works

51 posted on 01/27/2005 4:50:29 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Brian328i

""So, being gay isn't genetic, its indoctrination?""

It always has been...


52 posted on 01/27/2005 5:10:24 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: John O; Grampa Dave

Bump


53 posted on 01/27/2005 8:00:26 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: scripter; MeekOneGOP

Bump & Ping


54 posted on 01/27/2005 8:03:42 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Brian328i

There was a post a couple of weeks ago about a study that indicated that nearly fify percent (can't remember the exact figure) of all homosexuals admitted to having been sexually molested by an adult male before the age of fourteen and that the average age difference was eleven years. That pretty much says that in a large percent of the cases, homosexuality is learned.


55 posted on 01/27/2005 8:09:55 AM PST by Eva
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To: scripter; EdReform; little jeremiah

It is time that we start bringing up two valid points everytime the Gay Activists try to push their Homosexual agenda:

1. The gay life style kills more people everyday. It is the true quagmire of American and the world. The Gay lifestyle is far more dangerous to Americans than the Iraqi situation.

2. The cost of the gay life style is very high re medical treatment. It is a total waste of money until the infected ones die. During the wasteful/expensive Medical treatment time, they continue to have sex and infect others.
http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=Homosexuals%20should%20pay%20more%20insurance


Homosexuals Should Pay More Insurance

January 20, 2005









by Nathan Tabor






With the big flap over so-called “gay marriage” temporarily on the back burner — now that their fearless but feckless leader John Kerry has gone down in flames, and with the first government-sanctioned same-sex unions already ending nastily in divorce courts and bitter custody battles — this just might be an opportune moment to discuss some rarely mentioned health problems inherent within the allegedly avant garde homosexual lifestyle.

Some would say it is a known fact that most homosexuals, and especially gay men, are promiscuous. Their rhetoric is carefully crafted to give the impression they are in “committed, caring relationships” while research suggests that the vast majority of gays are neither celibate nor monogamous. (All heterosexuals are not celibate or monogamous either.)

Some may say, so what? Well, the corollary to this homosexual health hypothesis is another proven fact: most sexually active homosexuals simply don’t live a very long time. The heartier they party, it seems, the shorter the time that party lasts.

According to a article entitled “ The Longevity of Homosexuals” in the Omega Journal of Death and Dying, the median age of death from AIDS for homosexual men is 37, and the median age of death from other causes is 42. This does not compare favorably to the ever-increasing average lifespan of the rest of the heterosexual American population.

An analysis conducted at the end of 1997 by the Centers for Disease Control revealed that fully 60 percent of all AIDS cases in the United States are found among homosexual men. This is an amazingly high figure, especially when we consider that homosexuals — contrary to Kinsey's flawed study and fabricated “one-in-ten” myth — constitute only about 1 to 2 percent of our total population.

The conclusion is simple. Homosexual activists say they want equal rights and treatment. Fine. Let’s use their own arguments against them here. Let’s start by having them pay their fair share of the healthcare costs that accompany their lifestyle.

Long-term medical treatment for HIV and AIDS is usually protracted and tremendously expensive. Maybe that’s why gay activists are pushing so hard for spousal benefits for domestic partners of homosexuals — so somebody else, like the government or an employer, will pick up the tab.

“Risky” behavior is called risky for a reason. It means that by doing it, you put your life in danger. It’s really a lot like gambling for high stakes. The more you play, the more you stand to lose. For indulging in this risky behavior, you rightfully SHOULD pay more for both life and health insurance.

This isn’t a religious or even a moral values argument. This is strictly a common sense fiscal argument. You play risky, you pay more. That’s only fair. In fact, if these types of policies aren’t implemented, then health-conscious people are the ones being discriminated against.

You can’t blame the insurance companies for charging more. After all, their likelihood of having to pay out large sums of money on behalf of their gay clients is significantly greater.

Drinking and smoking, for example, are all directly related to dozens of diseases and medical conditions. So insurance companies habitually charge higher premiums. But non-smokers, non-drinkers and those who exercise get better rates than those who don’t practice such healthy lifestyle choices.

What about skydivers, hang gliders, and racecar drivers — do they pay the same life insurance premiums as those who watch birds or collect stamps? Not hardly.

The same logic should be applied to practicing homosexuals. When actuaries and insurance underwriters finally figure out this formula, we may see some instantaneous lifestyle changes.

After all, their risky homosexual behavior is a lifestyle choice, not a destiny. If the proven threat to their health won’t do the trick, maybe the cost to their pocketbooks will.

Nathan Tabor

Copyright © 2005 by Nathan Tabor


56 posted on 01/27/2005 8:15:59 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Grampa Dave; SweetCaroline; little jeremiah; scripter; John O

Perhaps the biggest 'cost' of the homosexual life style is the damage done to the souls of the children being indoctrinated.

I agree with your points.


57 posted on 01/27/2005 8:29:24 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...

Pinging you all to this article - post #56 - an excellent piece about homosexuals, longevity, AIDS, and the cost of insurance. Not a bit of 'morality' or 'religion' in it.

Just numbers, that anyone will see and agree with. Unless, of course, they're likely to contract AIDS by their behavior.

Let me and DirtyHarryY2K know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


58 posted on 01/27/2005 8:37:01 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes are what make the world go round.)
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Hi madg


59 posted on 01/27/2005 8:44:02 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: OXENinFLA

Ping


60 posted on 01/27/2005 8:54:54 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: scripter

WOW! What an eye opener! My kids are 15 - 22 years old. They didn't read these!
Unbelievable!!


61 posted on 01/27/2005 9:01:04 AM PST by It's me
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To: Emmett McCarthy; LauraleeBraswell
Some people are also born with TENDENCIES to drink to excess. Some choose to stay drunk as much as possible.

Excellent point!

62 posted on 01/27/2005 9:03:37 AM PST by It's me
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To: John O
Men have more testosterone but also have some Estrogen.
Women have more Estrogen but also have some testosterone.
Men and women have different hormone levels respective to their sex.


I agree that homosexuality is curable. For some homosexual individuals there must be some sort of chemical/hormonal imbalance.

Now, you can of course be perfectly balanced and be a homosexual. I am not disputing that for many individuals it is a CHOICE.

But for some there has to be some sort of imbalance.

I'm going to make an analogy. Some people have the Medical disorder known as Depression. They cannot help being depressed. Depression is caused by a variety of factors, mainly an imbalance with chemicals and hormones.
Of course your environment also may exacerbate it.
Doctors didn't say, "So and so is born with depression, it's natural so it's okay." They said "This is a disorder, it's not usual or normal and we're going to target the hormones and chemicals off balance with drugs and therapy."

Just because someone is born someway, doesn't make it right or excusable.

It's not politically correct to say that homosexuality is curable. I know of no ongoing research.
63 posted on 01/27/2005 9:23:27 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: EdReform
Hi madg

Hi mad gay?

Where?

64 posted on 01/27/2005 9:23:52 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks; scripter

Just a little humor! He's not back. I'll bet he still monitors these threads for GLSEN.


65 posted on 01/27/2005 9:28:45 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Brian328i

It succeeds through reinforcement.


66 posted on 01/27/2005 9:30:24 AM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: EdReform

Is that the reason GLSEN has been able to "stay off the radar" of the automated news clipping services?

By avoiding the words "GLSEN", "GSA", or other trip wire words, it becomes difficult to meta tag search their activities.


67 posted on 01/27/2005 9:35:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Men have more testosterone but also have some Estrogen.
Women have more Estrogen but also have some testosterone.
Men and women have different hormone levels respective to their sex.

BS! If this were true then “these people” would have developed intersex disorder. You don’t know what the hell you are talking about. Can you tell me what “hormone” imbalances cause other paraphilic disorders? What causes sexual attraction to children, animals or relatives, does your “theory” support the causes for these paraphilias? NO? Thought so.

68 posted on 01/27/2005 9:39:30 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: LauraleeBraswell
For some homosexual individuals there must be some sort of chemical/hormonal imbalance.

Whoops, meant to quote you here.

69 posted on 01/27/2005 9:43:14 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Men have more testosterone but also have some Estrogen.
Women have more Estrogen but also have some testosterone.
Men and women have different hormone levels respective to their sex.

True. Testosterone levels have been linked to sexual desire. BUT NOT TO THE OBJECT OF THAT DESIRE!

Other than that, hormone levels have nothing to do with SAD. You can't tell a corpse had SAD by testing the hormeone levels

For some homosexual individuals there must be some sort of chemical/hormonal imbalance.

Never once has one been found. There is no hormonal/chemical imbalance that's been shown to cause the practice of homosexual behavior

I am not disputing that for many individuals it is a CHOICE.

But for some there has to be some sort of imbalance.

Now you're finally getting closer. It is an imbalance but it is a mental imbalance. SAD is primarily caused by mental trauma brought on by three things. 1) Being sexually (or in some cases merely physically or mentally) abused. 2) Having an absent or insufficient relationship with one's father. 3) Relentless teasing by one's peers during the formative years.

For every 'homosexual' it is a chosen behavior. With the exception of such diseases as Turets syndrome all behavior is chosen

I'm going to make an analogy. (depression)

Just because someone is born someway, doesn't make it right or excusable.

Correct. Just as an alcoholic has no right to remain drunk. However in both these cases there is at least a gentic predisposition to the behavior (both caused by chemical imbalances). In SAD there is NO GENETIC PREDISPOSITION

A better analogy is someone who is deathly afraid of dogs because they were once bitten. They choose to avoid all dogs and choose to remain afraid of dogs even though this phobia is overcomable.

It's not politically correct to say that homosexuality is curable.

But it is true. And if it is true who cares what the leftist 'politically correct' police think.

I know of no ongoing research.

Check out NARTH's website. They have a ton of ongoing research into the curing of SAD.

NARTH

70 posted on 01/27/2005 10:18:48 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: longtermmemmory

Is that the reason GLSEN has been able to "stay off the radar" of the automated news clipping services?


It's an educated guess. You'll remember that madg was the staunchest supporter of GLSEN.

And of course GLSEN has been working to soften their image over the years - by changing their name from the Gay Lesbian Straight Teachers Network to the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network ( education network sounds warm and fuzzy ), and by developing innocent sounding programs such as the 'No Name Calling Week.'

Remember that Kevin Jennings is a master at framing issues:

"Safety
A speech by a homosexual activist in 1995 revealed that he had used "safety" to delude Gov. Weld and the state legislature into adopting the homosexual agenda for the schools of Massachusetts. The speech was titled Winning the Culture War and was given by Kevin Jennings, Executive Director of the "Gay and Lesbian and Straight Teachers’ Network," at the "Human Rights Campaign Fund Leadership Conference" on March 5, 1995.

"If the Radical Right can succeed in portraying us as preying on children, we will lose. Their language ­ ‘promoting homosexuality’ is one example ­ is laced with subtle and not-so-subtle innuendo that we are ‘after their kids.’ We must learn from the abortion struggle, where the clever claiming of the term ‘pro-life’ allowed those who opposed abortion on demand to frame the issue to their advantage, to make sure that we do not allow ourselves to be painted into a corner before the debate even begins.

"In Massachusetts the effective reframing of this issue was the key to the success of the Governor’s Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth. We immediately seized upon the opponent’s calling card ­ safety ­ and explained how homophobia represents a threat to students’ safety by creating a climate where violence, name-calling, health problems, and suicide are common. Titling our report "Making Schools Safe for Gay and Lesbian Youth," we automatically threw our opponents onto the defensive and stole their best line of attack. This framing short-circuited their arguments and left them back-pedaling from day one.

"Finding the effective frame for your community is the key to victory. It must be linked to universal values that everyone in the community has in common.

"In Massachusetts, no one could speak up against our frame and say, ‘Why, yes, I do think students should kill themselves’: this allowed us to set the terms for the debate.

"In Massachusetts, we made creating an environment where youth could speak out our number one priority. We know that, confronted with real-live stories of youth who had suffered from homophobia, our opponents would have to attack people who had been victimized once, which put them in a bully position from which it would be hard to emerge looking good. More importantly, we made sure these youth met with elected officials so that, the next time these officials had to vote on something, there would be a specific face and story attached to the issue. We wanted them to have an actual kid in mind when they had to cast their votes. We won the vote in the Senate 33-7 as a result..."



By avoiding the words "GLSEN", "GSA", or other trip wire words, it becomes difficult to meta tag search their activities.


Check your FReepmail in a few minutes.

71 posted on 01/27/2005 10:22:05 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

To hold the rational that homosexuality is always a choice, you also have to believe that heterosexuals are born with the same choice and propensity towards either sex. You believe that we are born ambisexual and that our environment is responsible for cultivating our feminine or masculine traits. Equally our environment is responsible for our attractions to either sex.

The Feminist movement tried to brainwash us into thinking that it was nuture and not nature that accounted for our gender characteristics and dispositions. That girls grew up to be housewives because we gave them dolls to play with. You've probably heard the news Professor Summers. He presented a theory (actually a fact) that there may be (are) some innate gender differences that account for the lack of women in Science.

Men and women are innately different.

I don’t refute that for many homosexuals it IS a choice. I also don’t refute that by creating an environment that embraces homosexuality we create homosexuals. Look at the man-hating culture that has been promoted for the past 30 years. Then look at the numbers, there are far more Lesbians than Gay men.
I mentioned Estrogen and Testosterone for the purpose of providing a general example of the varying levels of hormones respective to one's sex.

I believe that homosexuality is a chemical and hormonal imbalance and can be cured.

I also have a friend Nathan who is gay. I’ve known Nathan since I was 5 and I swear to you that from the time we were younger he was always feminine. He never fit in with “the boys” preferring girls instead. Nathan didn’t come out until after high school (but we all knew he was gay).
Some people are just born GAY. Not all, not every gay individual, but I promise you that some people are just GAY.


72 posted on 01/27/2005 10:32:19 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: John O


Please see my next post. That's funny, because Nathan didn't have a father present in his life.

But I have another story

I have another story-

My mother’s friend has a son (we’ll call him Josh although this is not his read name). From the time Josh was 3, he liked to dress up in women’s clothes. His father and mother used to joke that he was “gay”, but thought he would outgrow it.
It clearly bothered his parents, but they dismissed it rationalizing that he was a child and children tend to play at all sorts of things. While they gently nudged him towards sports, Josh preferred girl playmates and girl games.
They stopped joking about Josh being gay once he went through puberty. It was clear that he was GAY. And now Josh is in his 20s, and he is GAY.


73 posted on 01/27/2005 10:34:17 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: John O


Thankyou for the NARTH website, I'm reading it now!

please see post 72 also.


74 posted on 01/27/2005 10:39:45 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
By the way- We both agree that HOMOSEXUALITY should NOT be taught as an "alternative lifestyle" in schools. I personally recognize it as a disorder that is innate in some individuals but do not advocate promoting it.
75 posted on 01/27/2005 10:44:17 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
related but different disease called gender identity disorder. It's also curable. Now they'll have to get both the SAD cured, which may be tough as they teased him about it and destroyed their credibility ("but you and dad said I was gay!") and the GID underlying it.
76 posted on 01/27/2005 10:48:41 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: scripter

Homosexuals recruit.... DUH!! Everyone with two neurons firing knows this, this isn't a secret.. some of them are at least honest about it... others do it on the sly using such themes as "tolerance" and "diversity".


77 posted on 01/27/2005 10:50:41 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: scripter

"Adolescents have enough problems in establishing gender roles and this will increase these problems."


I have said this all along. And don't kid yourselves! The gay lobby KNOWS it, it's why they want it taught in schools.


78 posted on 01/27/2005 10:58:03 AM PST by gidget7
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To: mlc9852

Yes, and it is also why Homosexuals should not be adopting. We need to go back to heterosexual married couple adoption, Only!


79 posted on 01/27/2005 10:59:12 AM PST by gidget7
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I think it is child abuse.


It absolutely is!!


80 posted on 01/27/2005 10:59:59 AM PST by gidget7
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To: scripter

Yet some freepers will tell us it's no big deal to show a video of popular cartoon characters about how "we are family" and at the same time teach from of a pro-homosexual teachers guide.


In addition to that, this video teaches children that even if someone makes them uncomfortable they are ok, it's ok to be different. It's putting children even more at risk of abuse, attempting to make them more trusting. After parents work so hard to teach them not to talk to strangers, etc etc.


81 posted on 01/27/2005 11:02:28 AM PST by gidget7
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To: LauraleeBraswell
To hold the rational that homosexuality is always a choice, you also have to believe that heterosexuals are born with the same choice and propensity towards either sex. ...

Wrong. We are all born with the natural desire to eat food. It is inborn and normal. But some peolpe who suffer from mental disease choose to eat other things. It is natural and normal for all people to desire sexual relations with someone of the opposite sex (if they desire relations at all, some have abnormally low testosterone levels and are thusly eunichs in practice). Some people who have a mental disease called SAD desire to have different sexual relations (beastiality, necrophilia etc fall into this same category, mental illness)

Men and women are innately different.

Yes. Mentally healthy men desire women and mentally healthy women desire men.

I don’t refute that for many homosexuals it IS a choice. I also don’t refute that by creating an environment that embraces homosexuality we create homosexuals. Look at the man-hating culture that has been promoted for the past 30 years.

True 'homosexuals' are made, not born. (for all it is a choice)

Then look at the numbers, there are far more Lesbians than Gay men.

Apples and organges to a degree. While some lesbians result from the same causes as male SADs, some are openly lesbian simply becasue they hate men and once you eliminate men you're stuck with only women. In fact most lesbian activits openly state that they are that way because they choose to be that way

also have a friend Nathan who is gay. I’ve known Nathan since I was 5 and I swear to you that from the time we were younger he was always feminine. He never fit in with “the boys” preferring girls instead. Nathan didn’t come out until after high school (but we all knew he was gay).

Perfect case study. You all assumed he was SAD and probably treated him as such. Due to his not quite as masculine characteristics as others he likely suffered much teasing from his peers (self-fulfilling prophecy) and (from your later post) he had no relationship with his father.

Excellent candidate for recruitment. The last question is, When did he have his first SAD experience and how much older was the guy who molested him. I'll bet at least 11 yeasr older when Nathan was 14 or younger

Some people are just born GAY. Not all, not every gay individual, but I promise you that some people are just GAY.

No one is born with SAD. There is no genetic or hormonal component to the disease.

82 posted on 01/27/2005 11:03:38 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: gidget7; scripter; All
Parental Notification Laws regarding Gay & Lesbian Programs for Youths?
83 posted on 01/27/2005 11:10:27 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Registered

Forgot to address reply 83 to you, too -- sorry!


84 posted on 01/27/2005 11:12:25 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
I believe that homosexuality is a chemical and hormonal imbalance and can be cured.

You have absolutely no proof of that other than your silly “intuition” I guess. Oh, and your irrefutable anecdotal evidence of Nathan the effeminate boy, of course if that were proof ALL effeminate boys grow up to be “gay” right? But then your “sometimes” it’s a choice claptrap comes into effect? I’m confused.

I gave you a link to what happens when androgen production is in imbalance. John O correctly pointed out that you can’t measure hormone levels of a corpse to determine if it were homosexual or not. Yet you hang on to the notion that homosexuality is induced by hormones OR chemicals? (What chemicals would those be?) And as usual, you perversion justificators usually have a “friend” who is gay and that’s enough to defend his honor with the usual proof “the earth is flat”.

BTW, we're all born heterosexual...paraphilic disorder is what changes that. To say some people are born with paraphilic disorder is to say some people are born attracted to animals. You've lost your mind.

85 posted on 01/27/2005 11:15:29 AM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: scripter
Whew!

At first I thought the headline said "Curricula may influence brain masturbation in teens"

After reading the article, maybe that's what it should have said.

86 posted on 01/27/2005 11:18:04 AM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I agree that homosexuality is curable. For some homosexual individuals there must be some sort of chemical/hormonal imbalance.


Maybe you should go back and read the article again. This is explained very thoroughly.


87 posted on 01/27/2005 11:24:04 AM PST by gidget7
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To: LauraleeBraswell
However, if your an adult and you want to pursue it with another adult, well it's your choice.

It should also be at THEIR expense and employers or taxpayers shouldn't have to PAY for that choice (which we do.)

88 posted on 01/27/2005 11:26:32 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: NYer; Salvation

interesting. ping worthy?


89 posted on 01/27/2005 11:31:16 AM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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To: EdReform
I know states laws vary. Here we had an opt out (still do legally) law for parents. But GLSEN just doesn't obey the law. They find ways around it. It's too difficult to see that parents get the material, kids may not give it to their parents, they get lost in the mail, etc etc etc.

We are trying to pass "mandatory )pt In" in the legislature. This means a parent would have to opt in via a permission slip, or the child cannot attend. This would be much more effective, and harder for GLSEN to get around. The ACLU is pushing this on the schools, even filing lawsuits if schools don't enforce GLSEN's teaching to ALL students.

As with a lot of our problem, we need to stop the ACLU!
90 posted on 01/27/2005 11:33:07 AM PST by gidget7
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To: Born Conservative

Public schools ping


91 posted on 01/27/2005 11:34:37 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Emmett McCarthy; LauraleeBraswell
Some people are also born with TENDENCIES to drink to excess. Some choose to stay drunk as much as possible.

You also forgot to add that some people are born to be overeaters. Some choose it. All certainly have an obligation to themselves to reconsider their position.
92 posted on 01/27/2005 11:35:07 AM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: gidget7

that would be "mandatory OPT IN"


93 posted on 01/27/2005 11:36:10 AM PST by gidget7
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Doctors didn't say, "So and so is born with depression, it's natural so it's okay.

I do not believe that. I believe depression is a learned response also to the environment....granted, diet, lack of minerals, vitamins have more of an effect but getting depressed about things IS normal, BUT one has to learn how to deal with the situations in a way where they don't dwell on it for days, etc.

94 posted on 01/27/2005 11:38:41 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie


Agreed. I shouldn't have to pay for someone ele's decadent lifestyle.


95 posted on 01/27/2005 11:44:16 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: gidget7; Jay777

We are trying to pass "mandatory opt In" in the legislature. This means a parent would have to opt in via a permission slip, or the child cannot attend. This would be much more effective, and harder for GLSEN to get around.


Indeed opt-in would be best. But the foes of opt-in are legion - GLSEN, the NEA, and as you mention, the ACLU are just a few examples.



The ACLU is pushing this on the schools, even filing lawsuits if schools don't enforce GLSEN's teaching to ALL students.


The NEA's and ACLU's homosexual caucuses are staunch supporters of GLSEN, and the NEA even awarded Mr Jennings the NEA's human rights "creative leadership" award ( documented here ).

It's all part of the ruse.

96 posted on 01/27/2005 11:55:03 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: savagesusie
Everyone gets the blues. But as an individual who suffers from medically diagnosed depression, I can tell you that it is a serious chemical and hormonal imbalance. It is in no way a learned response.

Everything could be just fine and dandy. I would be out with my friends at a party, and I would just be Depressed for NO reason.
When you suffer from Depression your whole way of thinking is warped. It's as if your world has turned blue and gray. You can't be happy.
97 posted on 01/27/2005 11:56:08 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: EdReform

Thanks: Check this out too...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329982/posts


98 posted on 01/27/2005 12:03:42 PM PST by Jay777 (Gen. Tommy Franks for President in 08)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
You can't check the chemical or hormone levels of anything that's dead.

It's not difficult to understand-

Some people choose to be homosexual because they just prefer it and others have a strong chemical and hormonal attraction to those of the same sex.

"You perversion justificators"

Let me break it down for you in little words

I THINK HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG.
99 posted on 01/27/2005 12:26:17 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell (Well, it's not the IRA that's strapping bombs to themselves!)
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To: scripter

BTTT


100 posted on 01/27/2005 9:00:45 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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