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I visited Amerika, and all I got was this lousy zot.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6857387/site/newsweek/ ^ | Andrew Moravcsik

Posted on 01/27/2005 9:15:15 AM PST by Manservant

The U.S. Model: For years, much of the world did aspire to the American way of life. But today countries are finding more appealing systems in their own backyards.

Not long ago, the American dream was a global fantasy. Not only Americans saw themselves as a beacon unto nations. So did much of the rest of the world. East Europeans tuned into Radio Free Europe. Chinese students erected a replica of the Statue of Liberty in Tiananmen Square.

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1 posted on 01/27/2005 9:15:15 AM PST by Manservant
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To: Manservant

IBTZ?


2 posted on 01/27/2005 9:17:44 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: Manservant

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....


3 posted on 01/27/2005 9:17:44 AM PST by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Manservant

Sounds good to me - these sorry bastards can stay in their own respective countries, then.


4 posted on 01/27/2005 9:18:10 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Manservant

Just in time to say good bye


5 posted on 01/27/2005 9:18:35 AM PST by tx_eggman ("All I need to know about Islam I learned on 09/11/01" - Crawdad)
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To: Manservant; MeekOneGOP

Listen do you smell something?


6 posted on 01/27/2005 9:18:55 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (don't be lazy look it up))
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To: Manservant

oh yeah and welcome to Frerepublic hope your stay here is like a flea on a camels butt.

coarse and dry


7 posted on 01/27/2005 9:19:58 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (don't be lazy look it up))
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To: Manservant

Are uwe series?


8 posted on 01/27/2005 9:20:00 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (World Series Champion Boston Red Sox!! Has a nice ring to it.)
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To: Manservant

The hatred of America is obvious. Consider the MSM sources. Nothing new here.

Welcome to FR.


9 posted on 01/27/2005 9:20:04 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Manservant
 Welcome to FreeRepublic 

10 posted on 01/27/2005 9:20:18 AM PST by sionnsar ( trad-anglican.faithweb.com || Iran Azadi || Kiev County: http://www.soundpolitics.com)
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To: Manservant

These sad little countries are so out of touch with the 21st century. And they may never catch up.


11 posted on 01/27/2005 9:20:57 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Manservant

Does this mean we get to stop the immigration policies that allow the Euros and LA's in? I guess they'll stop making a run for the border now huh.


12 posted on 01/27/2005 9:21:06 AM PST by marty60
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To: Manservant

Another brand new liberal comes to Free Republic. You can move back to the Carter peanut plantation now pal.


13 posted on 01/27/2005 9:21:07 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The Democratic Party would make Uncle Joe Stalin Proud!)
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To: Manservant

4 3 2 1 zzzzoootttttttttt!


14 posted on 01/27/2005 9:21:18 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Manservant
I read this article with increasing disbelief. This idea that just because politicians of other countries say they want to regulate free speech ("the influence of TV"--imagine the reaction if they'd answered "the influence of news magazines") and that they don't want corruption are somehow free of corruption and "influences" is laughable.

The writer came to a decision, then went looking for polls (LOL) to prop up his assumption.

15 posted on 01/27/2005 9:21:37 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Atheist for W)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

American health care on par with Cuba?!?!


16 posted on 01/27/2005 9:21:40 AM PST by arawlin2
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To: sionnsar

Thanks. Have any of you visited www.buzzflash.com? Very good 'pulling together' of various stories from lots of news sources. Good for the lazy surfer, like me.


17 posted on 01/27/2005 9:22:09 AM PST by Manservant
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To: Manservant; Rightly Biased; 4mycountry; TheBigB; VRWCmember; Zavien Doombringer; jriemer; mhking; ..


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . .don't be shy.


18 posted on 01/27/2005 9:22:34 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Manservant
Liberals are like flies. They eat s##t and bother people.
19 posted on 01/27/2005 9:22:47 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: RetiredArmy

"Another brand new liberal comes to Free Republic. You can move back to the Carter peanut plantation now pal."

No thanks. I'm English.


20 posted on 01/27/2005 9:22:54 AM PST by Manservant
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21 posted on 01/27/2005 9:23:13 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (.drawkcab si enilgat yM !!PLEH)
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To: Manservant

I don't think I've seen that many factual errors in a single article in my lifetime. Yet, this is a good example of the mythology pushed by the liberal media worldwide.


22 posted on 01/27/2005 9:29:16 AM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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To: Manservant
Kool-Aid Stand
Signed up and Posted all in the same day...you must be thirsty
23 posted on 01/27/2005 9:29:18 AM PST by IchBinEinBerliner
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To: Rightly Biased
oh yeah and welcome to Frerepublic hope your stay here is like a flea on a camels butt.

Now that just sounds like a Ratherism. LOL

24 posted on 01/27/2005 9:29:51 AM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: Manservant
awwww in after the zot

Don't forget your lovely parting gift

25 posted on 01/27/2005 9:32:00 AM PST by scott0347 (Commander of the 0347th Lancer Brigade, Operator of the Immaculate Steamroller)
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To: Manservant
"Another brand new liberal comes to Free Republic. You can move back to the Carter peanut plantation now pal."

No thanks. I'm English.

Oh, god, that is even worse!!!! An English Liberal!!!

26 posted on 01/27/2005 9:33:12 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The Democratic Party would make Uncle Joe Stalin Proud!)
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To: Arrowhead1952

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1329702/posts
Mark Steyn: Bush means business
The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 01/29/05 | Mark Steyn


Great antidote!


27 posted on 01/27/2005 9:34:30 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: MeekOneGOP

missed the ZOT

DRAT, and DOUBLE DRAT!


28 posted on 01/27/2005 9:35:18 AM PST by fastattacksailor (Humiliate Islam: It's certainly asking for it!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Please put me on the zot ping list, thank you.


29 posted on 01/27/2005 9:35:19 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: Manservant
"After American planes and bombs freed the country, Kosovo opted for a European constitution."

I'm kind of guessing that they wouldn't have had the opportunity to choose ANY system without our help.

30 posted on 01/27/2005 9:36:00 AM PST by Gingersnap
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Late again, but I will engage in a small celebration in honor of your demise

31 posted on 01/27/2005 9:38:33 AM PST by 506trooper (No such thing as too much guns, ammo or fuel on board...unless you're on fire)
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To: Manservant
Wow! Another great article by Europhile Andrew Moravcsik, Professor of Politics and Director of the European Union Program at the very conservative Princeton University. His works can be seen here: Europolitik
32 posted on 01/27/2005 9:38:41 AM PST by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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No single policy has contributed as much to Western peace and security as the admission of 10 new countries—to be followed by a half-dozen more—to the European Union.

Here's a good example. While the claim could be factually correct, this recent event was heavily dependent upon another factor -- namely, the US victory in the 45 year long Cold War, which Europeans largely opposed. Without the sustained effort of the US, none of this would have been possible. So, once again, the author's factual omissions speak volumes, since they fail to put the European claims in context.

As another example, consider his claims about economic growth outside of the US in the past five decades. Again, while factually true, the reason for the growth rate is obvious; WWII destroyed much of Europe and Asia, and the rebuilding of Europe -- financed by the US -- was a singular growth event. It's easy to acheive high growth rates when you're starting from the bottom.

33 posted on 01/27/2005 9:38:44 AM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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34 posted on 01/27/2005 9:39:20 AM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and unlimited power)
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To: arawlin2

All these dreary little backwaters should then be removed from the American life support system. They wouldn't last out the year.

Another thought is that we should calculate foreign aid to these countries based on the results of the BBC polls/MSM bias. Egypt hates us very badly = 0 dollars. Serbia hates us somewhat badly = 1/2 dollars, etc.


35 posted on 01/27/2005 9:42:45 AM PST by ishabibble
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To: arawlin2

"...World Health Organization rates the U.S. healthcare system only 37th best in the world, behind Colombia (22nd) and Saudi Arabia (26th), and on a par with Cuba."

How the heck can they get away with this outright lie?


36 posted on 01/27/2005 9:45:03 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( veni vidi vino visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: Manservant

I think I got in before the zot....


Freeper Arty BN standby for firing orders.........


BN 12 ROUNDS FIRE FOR EFFECT. HE, PD FUSE 0 DELAY,CHARGE 8

STAND BY.............











ZOT!!!!













37 posted on 01/27/2005 9:45:12 AM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth,rebel by choice, MARINE BY GOD!)
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To: Manservant

I don't know which are more amusing, the new signees who post articles believing we'll be overwhelmed at the superior progressive intellect and abandon conservatism, or the ones who merely launch into an unintelligible tirade.

I'm just surprized that his first post wasn't about gay marriage...


38 posted on 01/27/2005 9:45:25 AM PST by kenth (my dog ate my tagline)
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To: Manservant

Learn how to spell AMERICA, turd for brains.

GOODBYE

39 posted on 01/27/2005 9:45:27 AM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: Lady Jag; fastattacksailor; Manservant
Wow, that didn't take long!

Bye, Manservant.

He's dead, Jim!


40 posted on 01/27/2005 9:45:56 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: fat city

Ahh, another America-hating professor. If America is so bad, why is everyone trying to emigrate here? Literally, everyone from every continent is trying to get in. We have more people move here each year than all other countries combined. Yet this moron tells me that other "models" are more attractive? The evidence does not support him.


41 posted on 01/27/2005 9:46:00 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Manservant

This article is a perfect example of how a morally bankrupt world is wagging it's finger at the US and declaring it to be the problem. The entire piece is full of idiotic hyperbole and attempts to justify the antithesis of freedom as a justifiable form of government. Not long ago, these same morons were telling the US it's cozy relationships with tyrannical regimes were the problem. Now that the US is moving away from that, they blame the Us for not accepting turanny as a valid form of government.

The fact of the matter is that much of this is rooted in a jealous rage. The only "myth" is that European countries are interested in freedom and democracy. They're not.


42 posted on 01/27/2005 9:46:07 AM PST by Trippin
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To: Manservant
Article written with...

With Christian Caryl in Tokyo, Katka Krosnar in Prague, Mac Margolis in Rio de Janeiro, Tracy Mcnicoll in Paris, Paul Mooney in Beijing, Henk Rossouw in Johannesburg and Marie Valla in London
43 posted on 01/27/2005 9:46:21 AM PST by Dallas59 (Bush said the "F" word 27 times January 20th, 2005!)
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To: TXBSAFH
I've added you. Thanks. :^)

44 posted on 01/27/2005 9:46:56 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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45 posted on 01/27/2005 9:47:52 AM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: Manservant

Burbling bongwater Batman!

Another DUmmie signed up today just to post a ZOT thread!

Silly DUmmie.....


46 posted on 01/27/2005 9:48:26 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: Manservant; Darksheare; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; ...
Manservant?


47 posted on 01/27/2005 9:49:55 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Chi-townChief

What amazes me is that this crap, international Newsweak edition or not, is on PMSNBC. They don't have a clue, do they?


48 posted on 01/27/2005 9:50:33 AM PST by b4its2late (Born free...Taxed to death and lied to by the Liberal Media.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Manservant = Uk Code Word for = Gay Fudge Packer


49 posted on 01/27/2005 9:50:59 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a weapon of mass disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

Exactly- and why does he continue to teach here? Surely such an enlightened mind would be welcomed at one of Europe's fine academic institutions. Or are the perks, pay and status of U.S. tenure just that irresistable?


50 posted on 01/27/2005 9:52:14 AM PST by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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