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Denver Police officer under investigation for reported threat over bumper sticker
Denver NBC 9 News | 1/26/2005 | Paul Johnson

Posted on 01/27/2005 9:23:03 AM PST by Glacier Honey

DENVER - A Denver police sergeant is under investigation for reportedly telling a young woman he'd arrest her if she didn't remove a bumper sticker that had a profanity directed at President Bush.

Shasta Bates, 26, says Denver Police Sgt. Michael Karasek approached her in a Denver shopping mall Monday and said that a bumper sticker on her truck, which includes the F-word and the surname of our president, had to be removed. While the message may be offensive to some, it's not illegal.

"He said that I needed to remove my stickers before I left, and that if I didn't and I showed up here again, and he saw me, he was going to arrest me," said Bates.

"He said my First Amendment (right) wasn't covered under profanity displayed on my truck," said Bates.

But Denver's city attorney has said he's never heard of the law that the sergeant was reportedly enforcing. So far, the Denver Police Department is only confirming that an investigation is underway.


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1 posted on 01/27/2005 9:23:04 AM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: Glacier Honey

But a federal court won't allow South Carolina to have a pro life license plate. We indeed live in sick times.


2 posted on 01/27/2005 9:24:31 AM PST by Williams
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To: Glacier Honey

There's two types of cops in the world --Those who've been caught in their lies and those who have yet to be caught.


3 posted on 01/27/2005 9:25:45 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker
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To: Glacier Honey

This gal was interviewed on the radio here. Now, whether the officer was in the right, I don't know. The defense the gal made was that the bumper sticker wasn't political and she didn't think people would take it that way.

Turns out she has another bumper sticker reading "I might be dating your daughter".

Interesting to say the least.


4 posted on 01/27/2005 9:27:03 AM PST by Gingersnap
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To: Glacier Honey

I'd be curious to know if there is indeed a law preventing profanity in the public arena or not. I truly hope there is and that the police officer is exonerated.

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5 posted on 01/27/2005 9:27:35 AM PST by viaveritasvita (HOLD THEIR DADGUMMED FEET TO THE FIRE!)
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To: Glacier Honey

Unless my eyes mislead me Shasta Bates is a lesbian.

I bet the whole thing is made up BS.

She should get counseling for her mental illness.


6 posted on 01/27/2005 9:32:05 AM PST by Pylot
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To: Glacier Honey

Poor taste (not to mention stupid), but illegal?


7 posted on 01/27/2005 9:32:37 AM PST by Da Bilge Troll (The Compassionate Troll)
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To: Glacier Honey
Perfectly legal for cops to do this in Denver. They are a "home rule" city so whatever the cops and the City Council dream up is pretty much Law inviolate.

At least, that is the BS I've been told right here on FR...

8 posted on 01/27/2005 9:35:16 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Gingersnap
Turns out she has another bumper sticker reading "I might be dating your daughter".

I saw that on the local news. The F*** BUSH was blurred but right under it was a sticker that said:

DON"T LAUGH
I might be dating your daughter

Sick puppy...

9 posted on 01/27/2005 9:35:44 AM PST by MileHi
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To: Glacier Honey

I saw a lot of those around here(Northern CO) during the campaign and just before the election. I hope I don't get in trouble for this, the stickers say
BUCK FUSH. Totally childish and not even funny in my opinion.


10 posted on 01/27/2005 9:35:47 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: Glacier Honey
[ DENVER - A Denver police sergeant is under investigation for reportedly telling a young woman he'd arrest her if she didn't remove a bumper sticker that had a profanity directed at President Bush. ]

What a novel way of makeing a political statement by the reporter..

11 posted on 01/27/2005 9:37:56 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Glacier Honey

"He said my First Amendment (right) wasn't covered under profanity displayed on my truck," said Bates.

The police officer was wrong and the woman has a right to express her obscenity on her bumper. There have been numerous court cases about this type of thing and the constitution does protect offensive speech.

“Everything one has a right to do is not best to be done.”-Benjamin Franklin


12 posted on 01/27/2005 9:38:24 AM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: viaveritasvita

Profanity allowed everywhere and anywhere if it's against conservative values.


13 posted on 01/27/2005 9:40:00 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: MileHi

I should have put under the article - the reason the cop became involved is because a shopper complained to the police officer that the sticker was offensive


14 posted on 01/27/2005 9:40:40 AM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: MisterRepublican

“Everything one has a right to do is not best to be done.”-Benjamin Franklin<

Thanks for the quote. It reflects what my husband and I always say about free speech...Just because you CAN say something, doesn't mean you SHOULD. Some things are still just wrong.


15 posted on 01/27/2005 9:42:56 AM PST by conservativebabe
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To: OldFriend

I'm just sick of it! It's in my face now and I'm made out to be the old-fashioned prude!

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16 posted on 01/27/2005 9:46:52 AM PST by viaveritasvita (HOLD THEIR DADGUMMED FEET TO THE FIRE!)
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To: MisterRepublican
You are wrong.
Many states have obscenity or Disorderly Conduct laws being enforced every day. The bumper sticker falls into that category. In some states she could have been arrested, sounds like the officer cut her some slack.
17 posted on 01/27/2005 9:47:06 AM PST by Graycliff
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

What a Crock


18 posted on 01/27/2005 9:47:43 AM PST by Graycliff
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To: Glacier Honey

I don't think it's any worse that "S##T Happens" or those pics of little boys peeing on a Nascar Number...or whatever. It's all offensive and adding to the vulgarity of our society. People don't even make a pretense of an apology anymore with the old "excuse my French" when they curse in public.

And I think the feminist movement brought about a lot of it.


19 posted on 01/27/2005 9:49:42 AM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who proclaim tolerance have the least for my views.)
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To: conservativebabe
Yes, my liberal sister/brother in-laws who live in Denver have the same sticker. However, we win, they lose.

I am with the cop on this one.

20 posted on 01/27/2005 9:49:56 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: KC_Conspirator
So I take it I should be in jail for my "F*ck you, you f*cking f*cker!" T-shirt?

It's just a word. The word "Democrat" is more of a cuss word to me.

21 posted on 01/27/2005 9:52:14 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Graycliff
I am stunned that some jurisdictions have no laws that restrict public display of profanity. Basically if I am driving in one of these areas with my young children and there is a sign that broadcasts the crude words for male and female genitalia, and for sex acts, I have no legal recourse?
22 posted on 01/27/2005 9:52:20 AM PST by Bushforlife (I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: viaveritasvita

No support the troops bumper stickers allowed. No license plates supporting pro life, no american flags on police officer uniforms or on police cruisers.......


23 posted on 01/27/2005 9:52:31 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: KC_Conspirator
Right before the election we were in Denver and there was a car in our parking lot with a sign in the window.....

Somewhere in Texas a village is missing it's idiot.

My husband asked the guy if he was the one that was missing!!!!

The guy was not amused!!!!! LOL.....

Denver and Boulder are far far left kookburgers.....but for the most part the rest of the state is normally sane!!!!

24 posted on 01/27/2005 9:54:28 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: OldFriend

But the "right" to use the F word against the President for all to see THAT'S okay!

Stunning in the extreme!!

Don't know the scripture, but the Bible says Woe to those who call evil good and good evil.

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25 posted on 01/27/2005 9:54:54 AM PST by viaveritasvita (HOLD THEIR DADGUMMED FEET TO THE FIRE!)
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To: Dead Corpse
At least, that is the BS I've been told right here on FR...

It ain't BS, DC. But F*** BUSH fits the political climate, so the cop was out of line.

26 posted on 01/27/2005 9:57:13 AM PST by MileHi
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To: Glacier Honey

The same bumper sticker that the paper could not show because it was obscene.


27 posted on 01/27/2005 9:58:34 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: MileHi

Then they need to secede from the Union. US Constitution claims it is the "Supreme Law of the Land". If Denver doesn't like it, there is a mechanism for them to withdraw. It's a bit broken, due to the Civil War, but times are different. They might just succeed in seceding.


28 posted on 01/27/2005 9:59:47 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Glacier Honey

The cop probably made a joke and the lesbo went ballistic.


29 posted on 01/27/2005 10:02:14 AM PST by Ajnin
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To: OldFriend
Somewhere in Texas a village is missing it's idiot.

A lady at work had that posted on the wall by her desk. One day I told her I agreed, how could anyone be stupid enough to vote for Shiela Jackson-Lee? She almost spit.... {:0)

30 posted on 01/27/2005 10:02:14 AM PST by MileHi
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To: MileHi

cop was out of line. Wrong! He was doing his duty. A citizen called in a complaint, the officer responded, suspect in question was violating the law, officer gave warning to suspect.
She could have been arrested for this!


31 posted on 01/27/2005 10:03:12 AM PST by Graycliff
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To: viaveritasvita

Where I live there are laws against using profanity on public highways. I know someone who was charged with it. It eventually was dropped but the law is on the books.


32 posted on 01/27/2005 10:03:24 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Graycliff

I agree with your statement. Communities have a right to establish laws against obscenities and disorderly conduct. Families should be able to bring their children up in a decent environment. I think the young woman can make a statement that let's us know her views on President Bush without using profane language. The officer responded appropriately, good for him.


33 posted on 01/27/2005 10:04:07 AM PST by antceecee
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To: Dead Corpse

Suits me, the place is a cesspool. I won't go there or patronize any buisness there. I tell merchents that, I won't pay taxes to support that town. Too bad I have to miss the Sportsmans Exposition again, though.


34 posted on 01/27/2005 10:05:41 AM PST by MileHi
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To: Glacier Honey

some bumbers just beg to be chained to telephone poles


35 posted on 01/27/2005 10:06:42 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam is for dilettantes....)
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To: joesnuffy

also bumpers


36 posted on 01/27/2005 10:07:01 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam is for dilettantes....)
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To: Graycliff
Calm down and read the post again. I said according to the political climate in Denver...

Get it?

37 posted on 01/27/2005 10:07:10 AM PST by MileHi
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To: MileHi

Sad thing is according to libs... it took that village to raise her! LOL!!!


38 posted on 01/27/2005 10:07:51 AM PST by antceecee
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To: Graycliff

BTW, according to the city attorny, she violated no law and could not be lawfully arrested. The officer will be made to appologize. Sucks, but then it IS Denver.


39 posted on 01/27/2005 10:08:42 AM PST by MileHi
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To: MileHi
Yeah... I'm gonna miss the Saxet Gun Show in Austin after I've moved back to Minnesota. Not sure they have anything up there quite as regular. I like to go sometimes just to hang out and talk with other firearm enthusiasts...
40 posted on 01/27/2005 10:09:17 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: antceecee
it took that village to raise her! LOL!!!

A deciple of Patsy Schroeder no doubt>

41 posted on 01/27/2005 10:10:11 AM PST by MileHi
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To: Glacier Honey
Meet Shasta Bates...


42 posted on 01/27/2005 10:12:36 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: Dead Corpse

Well the expo is once a year to meet outfitters, arrange hunting and fishing trips, see the lates hunting and fishing gear and such. Cool show, but I ain't going.


43 posted on 01/27/2005 10:12:42 AM PST by MileHi
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To: Dead Corpse
That sounds like a funny t-shirt.

I would throw her in jail for language. I would throw her in for hating-America.

44 posted on 01/27/2005 10:13:41 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Were the cops that died at the world trade center on September 11th, 2001 those who've been caught in their lies or those who have yet to be caught? How about all the other cops across our nation who had made the ultimate sacrifice to protect the public? Are they officers who've been caught in their lies or those who yet to be caught? The next time you need help from a police officer why don't you instead call the woman in the car that has the F*** Bush bumper sticker.


45 posted on 01/27/2005 10:20:35 AM PST by Wiggins
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To: Glacier Honey

If you say her name five times fast, its a vulgar word... MissShastaBates MissShastaBates MissShastaBates MissShastaBates MissShastaBates


46 posted on 01/27/2005 10:20:51 AM PST by bird4four4
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To: MisterRepublican
The police officer was wrong and the woman has a right to express her obscenity on her bumper. There have been numerous court cases about this type of thing and the constitution does protect offensive speech.

So if I go up to a demonrat mayor and say "F**k you you commie rat bastard!" They can't arrest me? Yeah right.

Send me $10,000 for up front bail money, then I'll try that experiment.

47 posted on 01/27/2005 10:30:39 AM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: MileHi
LOLOLOL.......oh that was perfect!!!!!

Sheila Jackson Lee was voted the most stupid politician in an anonymous poll a few years ago.

I believe Patrick Kennedy ws the male counterpart.

48 posted on 01/27/2005 10:33:09 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: OldFriend

You are right - Drive around Denver / Boulder and you see more Kerry signs - Everywhere else is Bush Country

Proud to be a redstater


49 posted on 01/27/2005 10:39:27 AM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: MileHi

My apologies for my ignorance, Please forgive.


50 posted on 01/27/2005 10:40:21 AM PST by Graycliff
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