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Guantanamo translator describes how female interrogators used sexual tactics to weaken Muslim...
AP ^ | 1/27/5 | PAISLEY DODDS

Posted on 01/27/2005 12:36:23 PM PST by SmithL

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico -- Female interrogators tried to break Muslim detainees at the U.S. prison camp in Guantanamo Bay by sexual touching, wearing a miniskirt and thong underwear and in one case smearing a Saudi man's face with fake menstrual blood, according to an insider's written account.

A draft manuscript obtained by The Associated Press is classified as secret pending a Pentagon review for a planned book that details ways the U.S. military used women as part of tougher physical and psychological interrogation tactics to get terror suspects to talk.

It's the most revealing account so far of interrogations at the secretive detention camp, where officials say they have halted some controversial techniques.

"I have really struggled with this because the detainees, their families and much of the world will think this is a religious war based on some of the techniques used, even though it is not the case," the author, former Army Sgt. Erik R. Saar, 29, told AP.

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Saar said he witnessed about 20 interrogations and about three months after his arrival at the remote U.S. base he started noticing "disturbing" practices.

One female civilian contractor used a special outfit that included a miniskirt, thong underwear and a bra during late-night interrogations with prisoners, mostly Muslim men who consider it taboo to have close contact with women who aren't their wives.

Beginning in April 2003, "there hung a short skirt and thong underwear on the hook on the back of the door" of one interrogation team's office, he writes. "Later I learned that this outfit was used for interrogations by one of the female civilian contractors ... on a team which conducted interrogations in the middle of the night on Saudi men who were refusing to talk."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boohoohoo; crymeariver; gauntanamo; guantanamo; interrogations
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I'll talk, I'll talk!
1 posted on 01/27/2005 12:36:24 PM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Spare me... They call this torture!!!


2 posted on 01/27/2005 12:38:52 PM PST by Toidylop
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To: SmithL

maybe Ann Coulter should be sent down there...


3 posted on 01/27/2005 12:39:09 PM PST by oceanview
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To: SmithL

Oh the humanity!


4 posted on 01/27/2005 12:41:02 PM PST by MonroeDNA (US OUT of the UN!)
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To: SmithL
This is at least the third version of this story I've seen today. Obviously the MSM has their talking point for the day.

Blargh.

5 posted on 01/27/2005 12:41:31 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Toidylop

I've been trying to get my wife to do this for years.


6 posted on 01/27/2005 12:41:34 PM PST by pag_s
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To: oceanview
Where is whats her name crossing her legs during interrogation.
7 posted on 01/27/2005 12:42:16 PM PST by eastforker (Ask me about a free satellite TV system!)
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To: SmithL

" I'll talk! I'll talk! But in ther name of Allah just do not put the panties(Rosie O'Shamu's) on my head!


8 posted on 01/27/2005 12:43:10 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: pag_s

same here... I was told to take a hike every time :)


9 posted on 01/27/2005 12:45:59 PM PST by Toidylop
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To: SmithL

I'm just wondering if we are supposed to feel sorry for these murdering bastards. At least they still have a complete inventory of body parts attached.


10 posted on 01/27/2005 12:46:21 PM PST by SailormanCGA72
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To: SmithL

Guantanamo interrogator...
11 posted on 01/27/2005 12:49:10 PM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com/)
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To: SmithL

They should of ran some episodes of Deperate Housewifes or Married with Children.


12 posted on 01/27/2005 12:49:40 PM PST by BobCNY
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To: SmithL

So Sexy...
13 posted on 01/27/2005 12:50:47 PM PST by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com/)
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To: Owl_Eagle
One female civilian contractor used a special outfit that included a miniskirt, thong underwear and a bra during late-night interrogations with prisoners, mostly Muslim men who consider it taboo to have close contact with women who aren't their wives.

Beginning in April 2003, "there hung a short skirt and thong underwear on the hook on the back of the door" of one interrogation team's office, he writes. "Later I learned that this outfit was used for interrogations by one of the female civilian contractors ... on a team which conducted interrogations in the middle of the night on Saudi men who were refusing to talk."

No wonder these people can't ever defeat us in a war! But somehow I don't think this is covered by the Geneva Convention.

14 posted on 01/27/2005 12:53:28 PM PST by HenryLeeII (Democrats have helped kill more Americans than the Soviets and Nazis combined!)
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To: Echo Talon

A warning first please. OMG


15 posted on 01/27/2005 12:54:00 PM PST by Jeeper (Virginia is for Jeepers.)
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To: SmithL

Hell, if that's torture, I want in!


16 posted on 01/27/2005 12:54:09 PM PST by TheRatHunter
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To: Echo Talon

For some reason the Unknown Comic comes to mind. You know... with the bag over the head.


17 posted on 01/27/2005 12:54:10 PM PST by duckman (I refuse to use a tag line...I mean it.)
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To: TheRatHunter

this is just good,series stategery.


18 posted on 01/27/2005 12:55:11 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (john f'n kerry-the original 'million dollar baby'.)
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To: Jeeper

Can you imagine it? Janet Reno in a thong? I would claw my own eyes out.


19 posted on 01/27/2005 12:55:51 PM PST by FearlessFreep
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To: FearlessFreep

20 posted on 01/27/2005 1:01:14 PM PST by maggief
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To: maggiefluffs

Gawd, that made me loose my appetite.


21 posted on 01/27/2005 1:02:39 PM PST by FearlessFreep
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To: SmithL

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness has made American men the best and most successful men in the world. Moreover, we don't need to die to experience such values.


22 posted on 01/27/2005 1:03:26 PM PST by kipita (Rebel the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: SmithL
Don't believe anything she writes!

******

Well today takes the cake as I just read Paisley Dodd's AP piece which says: "About 10,000 Haitians gathered at the palace hours after celebrating New Year's Day with fireworks crackling, shots ringing out and drums pulsing in the darkness." What Palace was she at, pray tell?

The same Paisley Dodds that Karshan spoke of filed a January 2 Associated Press report on the bicentennial celebrations that failed to include a single quote from President Aristide, visiting South African President Thabo Mbeki, or any member of over a dozen official foreign delegations. Instead, the despicable Dodds provided her global platform to Andy Apaid Jr., a leader of the U.S.-backed opposition. President Mbeki’s visit “brought oxygen to a dying dictatorship" said Apaid, the corrupt business oligarch. The Washington Post ran Dodds’ story under the headline, “Haiti Opposition Demands Aristide Resign” – as if that were news!

Press Here

23 posted on 01/27/2005 1:04:51 PM PST by kcvl
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To: maggiefluffs

I'm sorry but this still doesn't add up to say a beheading! I'm also getting sick of hearing what their "religion" does and doesn't allow. I guess the only sure thing I know that it allows is beheading - that's ok and flying planes into buildings.


24 posted on 01/27/2005 1:06:43 PM PST by LYSandra
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To: SmithL
When I was about twenty, I was exposed to sleep deprivation, vile food, bad language and was forced to stand for hours in inclement weather

...they called it basic training. (P.S. many nights I dreamed of "THE" miniskirt torture)

25 posted on 01/27/2005 1:07:36 PM PST by pfflier
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To: SmithL
man sounds like 1001 arabian nights redux!!!

this is torture? maybe they should have them watch gay sex 24/7! (well it's an alternative lifestyle isn't it? can't be harmful is it??)

26 posted on 01/27/2005 1:08:54 PM PST by bubman
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To: SmithL
One female civilian contractor used a special outfit that included a miniskirt, thong underwear and a bra during late-night interrogations with prisoners, mostly Muslim men who consider it taboo to have close contact with women who aren't their wives.

But not taboo to destroy the non-Islamic world. Boo-effing-hoo.
27 posted on 01/27/2005 1:08:58 PM PST by aruanan
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To: SmithL

When they first brought the prisoners to Gitmo, there were stories of the inmates glaring at female guards while masturbating. Any image of these animals as pure and holy is total hype. The Taliban committed rapes, as do the holy men in Iran. In their eyes, these transgressions can be blamed on the women, so women are often violated then punished for causing it. While I'm sure they're not all like that, it's likely that any who show any sexual restraint are rare.


28 posted on 01/27/2005 1:13:40 PM PST by Spok
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To: bubman

"maybe they should have them watch gay sex 24/7!"

These terrorist perverts would probably enjoy that!


29 posted on 01/27/2005 1:14:02 PM PST by Levante
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To: HenryLeeII
mostly Muslim men who consider it taboo to have close contact with women who aren't their wives.

What a pile of crap. There are thousands of mooslims attending various institutions of higher learning in metropolitan Boston. Their number one pastime is chasing women. Their second is drinking alcohol.
30 posted on 01/27/2005 1:15:18 PM PST by Beckwith (Barbara Boxer is the Wicked Witch of the West . . .)
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To: Toidylop

>>>>Spare me... They call this torture!!!

Could be - if the chick in the thong looked like Michael Moore....


31 posted on 01/27/2005 1:18:16 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Common Sense is an Oxymoron)
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To: SmithL

I don't believe a word of this shiite muslime crapola.


32 posted on 01/27/2005 1:22:17 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: SmithL

I hope they didn't let them see the half time show from last years' Superbowl. Or Ashlee Simpson. That WOULD be over the line!


33 posted on 01/27/2005 1:26:29 PM PST by Spok
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To: All

is it true that they show snuff films on Al Jazzera?


34 posted on 01/27/2005 1:27:47 PM PST by Esteemed Scholar Jack Bauer
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To: Spok
When they first brought the prisoners to Gitmo, there were stories of the inmates glaring at female guards while masturbating. Any image of these animals as pure and holy is total hype.

I remember many reports in earlier days about Gitmo prisoners masturbating to try to intimidate the female guards, which really makes me question this report by former Army Sgt. Erik R. Saar. Just how did AP get this manuscript that's supposedly classified pending Pentagon review? I hope this doesn't turn out to be another incident of aberrant behavior that the media will use to tarnish all our military with the same perverse brush, a la Private Lynnie Englund.

35 posted on 01/27/2005 1:27:50 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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Dr. 'Atiya: I laughed at the claim that an honorable man doesn't beat [his wife], because only an honorable man would beat her. A man with no honor would beat his wife in a way I'd call "barbaric." There are disciplinary beatings that are permitted by Islam, which are practiced by honorable men.


36 posted on 01/27/2005 1:28:58 PM PST by Esteemed Scholar Jack Bauer
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To: SmithL

This is outrageous. How can I get imprisioned there? I won't talk until they have gone through their entire routine, twice.


37 posted on 01/27/2005 1:34:36 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: SmithL

Does "female civilian contractor" doing interogation on suspected terrorists make sense?


38 posted on 01/27/2005 1:44:37 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: All

Some other things needed, A hacksaw, A Count Dracula costume, Mike Tyson, Fran Drescher, and the entire cast of a Mexican Soap Opera


39 posted on 01/27/2005 1:50:49 PM PST by Esteemed Scholar Jack Bauer
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To: SmithL

These Muslim fanatics hate empowered women. Frankly, I find it amazing the level of torture at Guantanamo only amounts to a lap dance or one's personal strip show.

This is torture? Dang! Perhaps I should get my money back from that stripper ...

Oh, boo hoo! As usual, the MSM will look for anything to demonize the US military but turn a blind eye towards the real human rights abusers of the world like the leaders of China, North Korea, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Syria, Iran and a dozen other despots.

Come to think of it, since these monsters are guided by religious fanaticism, why not get pig carcasses, place them inside and tell them they are going to be die while in direct contact with what they consider unclean if they won't talk? This will guarantee they won't enter into paradise with their 72 virgins.

But then, the MSM, the leftists, liberals and Democrats, to say nothing of the foreign press will be outraged. Those wicked American Republicans!


40 posted on 01/27/2005 2:06:27 PM PST by Edward Watson
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To: SmithL

If true, it is stupid. The "24" method is the only way to go.


41 posted on 01/27/2005 2:19:45 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: facedown

The average American is thrilled to hear this...believe me.


42 posted on 01/27/2005 2:30:18 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: GOP_1900AD

Bull. I bet they break in a minute this way.


43 posted on 01/27/2005 2:31:23 PM PST by faithincowboys
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To: SmithL

One female civilian contractor used a special outfit that included a miniskirt, thong underwear and a bra during late-night interrogations with prisoners..

Porn Star? Is so, would she keep it hush, hush? Maybe she'd save it for the memoirs and cash in then.

44 posted on 01/27/2005 2:37:56 PM PST by ml1954
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To: SmithL

My God. The next thing you know they'll build a Hooter's there and force them to drink alcohol.


45 posted on 01/27/2005 2:39:12 PM PST by ml1954
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To: SmithL

I want to see the '60 Minutes' expose on this one.


46 posted on 01/27/2005 2:42:00 PM PST by ml1954
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To: Echo Talon

I'm at a loss for words.


47 posted on 01/27/2005 2:44:28 PM PST by ml1954
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To: Keith in Iowa

Could be - if the chick in the thong looked like Michael Moore....

Or Roseanne Barr

48 posted on 01/27/2005 2:48:21 PM PST by ml1954
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To: SmithL

So what did they do? Show them their buttocks?


49 posted on 01/27/2005 2:49:34 PM PST by Two-Bits (THANK GOD IDIOTS OUT NUMBER THE "REAL" INTELLIGENT & ENLIGHTEN ONES)
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To: faithincowboys

Is it a good idea to give, via an interrogation method, fuel to the fires of anti Western propaganda? If we are trying to say, "we of the Western Judeo-Christian tradition are serious about this war," then I think that the use of something that speaks of hedonism is, while possibly effective for certain interrogations, a really bad idea in the bigger picture.


50 posted on 01/27/2005 3:00:23 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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