Vatican courses on Satanism

virtueonline/upi ^ | Jan 05 | Uwe Siemon-Netto

[PetroniusMaximus]

***What ever happened to faith, hope and love? Isn't that the message of Jesus?***


Not entirely.



"I tell you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body, and after that have nothing more that they can do.

But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!

- Jesus, Luke 12:4-6


"And if you call on him as Father who judges impartially according to each one's deeds, conduct yourselves with fear throughout the time of your exile, knowing that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your forefathers, not with perishable things such as silver or gold, but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot."

Peter - 1 Peter 1:16-18




"Therefore let us be grateful for receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, and thus let us offer to God acceptable worship, with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire."

- Paul, Hebrews 12:27-29



"Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God."
- Paul, 2 Corinthians 7:1


We may admire the awesome beauty of Niagra falls, but we would be fools if we did not also fear it's power.

While mindful of His love and mercy, we must never loose sight of the fact that God is still the most dangerous being in the universe.

[ZULU]

I don't know of anyone following the teachings of Medieval European Kings as a religious belief system today.

[ZULU]

Just as God exists, the Devil exists also. So do Angels, a Last Judgement and a resurrection of the dead.

I still don't understand why anybody would worship a loser, especially one who wants to draw you into the Hell he has himself created.

But perhaps they have become too enamoured of the "underdog"

[ZULU]

"the appeal when proselytizing is not about being dominated, but dominating of others for personal gratification, revenge, wealth or other 'fleshly' desires. "

Why don't they just run for office?? It worked for Bill Clinton.

[ZULU]

I think its better to love God for all He gave us and fear and hate the Devil.

[ZULU]

Sorry. I love God. I don't fear Him. Only those who hate Him or disobey Him need fear Him.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[185JHP]

"Pokemon" is a compound word for "pocket monster." Evil stuff, as is the "hp" stuff. Dabbling in satanic/witchcraft stuff is dangerous...

[xm177e2]

Does that mean a lot of the kings of Europe were also child molestors?, because marrying young girls - for dynastic purposes - was not unusual in the middle ages.

Oftentimes these political marriages would include clauses that no sex was to take place until the girl was at least into her teens. Sometimes, the girl would even have the option of annulling the marriage at the time when she was old enough to have sex.

I don't know if these political marriages were ever a scheme to get into bed with nine-year-olds rather than dynastic conveniences.

[Salvation]

No, I don't remember the exact name -- maybe my kids would. LOL!

It seems like it was the "Story of Jennifer" or something like that. It scared the willie-nillies out of my kids.

[Salvation]

So very true, because when Satan took Jesus to the parapet of the temple it was "dominion over all this if you will fall down and worship me."

Satan is a power hungry vulture, always waiting to swoop in on our weaknesses.

[Salvation]

I think you are giving "fear of the Lord" (one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, BTW) the wrong connotation here.

"Fear of the Lord" refers to a healthy awe of the Lord's power. It just uses the 'old language' version of respect for the Lord.

[SaltyJoe]

I think the Vatican REALLY knows the difference between those confused about the nature of God and those that know God and evil and willfully choose evil.

You and I might be fortunate to know the difference between Islam, Christianity, and the American way of life. I know Islamics who only know Islam and don't have opportunity to know either Christianity nor the American way of life. A Satanists knows enough to willfully choose Satan and all that evil is. Satanists are deadlier and literally the worst of evils.

Furthermore, you can make an ally of Islamics to fight Satanists. They still know true evil as well as those who manipulate politics and religion to enslave sheepish populations. It's still sexy in their culture to fight evil. "Politically correct" attitudes here still poo poo fighting evil as if it's a little boy's comic book heroic fantasy.

I suppose that the White House already knows this because they've never made war on Islam but on "terrorists".

The best weapon against evil is Christ, Himself. The best common ground for Christianity, the Americas, and the Middle East is St. Mary, the Mother of Christ. They revere her more than most Christians. She cannot be swindled from God, and for those devoted to her, she can only lead them to Christ her Son.

[Mad Mammoth]

Does that mean a lot of the kings of Europe were also child molestors?

Irrelevant. The kings of Europe during that same time period were not busy creating a faux 'religion' which called for the extermination of all who would not submit and bow down to the beliefs of said 'religion'. The fact that Mohammed married a child is established, and all of the followers of the Islamic cult must accept it, because it is TRUE. What a European monarch might have done has no bearing on this topic.

[Caipirabob]

Note to the Vatican. I support Catholics heartily, it's YOU I doubt.

"Physician: Heal thyself!"

The Vatican needs to actively purge those who have infiltrated and corrupted the Church. All Christian groups have been subjected to this onslaught, but the Vatican is simply the most import icon of the Church outside of the very reason for the church.

It needs to be purged and cleansed before they can effectively combat that which is consuming them.

[Mad Mammoth]

The best weapon against evil is Christ, Himself.

Agreed.

The best common ground for Christianity, the Americas, and the Middle East is St. Mary, the Mother of Christ. They revere her more than most Christians. She cannot be swindled from God, and for those devoted to her, she can only lead them to Christ her Son.

'BZZZZT' - wrong answer. Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life", He said nothing about his mother being any co-redemptor, and any veneration of Mary is misdirected and ill-advised. There is no mediator between God and man EXCEPT for Jesus Christ, who said that if we have seen Him, we have seen the Father, and said "The Father and I are One".

There was a homeless man, who wandered for weeks across the countryside, hungry, poorly dressed, death stalking him at every turn, and he came upon a farm, and went looking for something to eat. He went into the chicken coop where there was but one chicken. He suddenly heard the sound of an egg being laid, he looked under the chicken, and sure enough - a fresh egg just waiting to be consumed. Overcome with gratitude, the man proceeded to ignore the egg, and worshipped the chicken for being such a kind, graceful and compassionate animal. Eventually the man died of starvation when the egg went bad, and the chicken snickered as the man's body was dragged away, and said "next!"

And so it is with the Mary-worshippers who choose to worship the chicken, instead of accepting the egg for the Gift it is.

[SaltyJoe]

More native Mexicans were won over to Christianity because of Our Lady of Guadalupe than there were converts from the force of Spanish steel.

[ZULU]

Sorry, I misinterpreted. Awe is a much better word.

[Mad Mammoth]

In other words, the ends justify the means, even if it results in idolatry, i.e. Mary-worship? Sorry, I don't subscribe to that philosophy.

Here is testimony from a woman named Rene who came out of that system of idol worship:

I was raised Roman Catholic, went to parochial school, but I never got saved until nearly 15 years later reading a Gideon Bible! I always thought my salvation depended on confessing to a priest, the Mass (mass confusion!), communion (the wafer god), until I found out that there is NO purgatory, and I don't need an earthly priest to approach God! When I was attending catholic school, we used to have these Mary coronations. It involved going to a little "grotto" at the back of the school, where there was a LIFESIZE statue of "Mary" in this little "grove" of trees. (You know, like the GROVES that the children of Israel built during the time of AHAB when God nearly wiped them all out!??!!!) We would gather in a circle, say the rosary and a little girl would be chosen to go up and put a wreath of flowers on "Mary's" head. Oh, we thought it was so cute and so PIOUS! I never even knew back then that I was in BAAL worship! Boy, was I ever in for an eye-opening! Bless God, He brought me OUT of that mess! I have often been ridiculed by (Well-meaning?) Christians for my stance against mariolotry and against purgatory. I have been told by many of them that Catholics love Jesus too and they are going to heaven. Well, sure they are, IF they are saved! I never hesitate to tell them too, that they need to come out of that SYSTEM! But, I do not hesitate to tell the truth about this "Mary"(BAAL) that they worship. She is none other than ISHTAR or ASTEROTH from the Old Testament, 'The Queen of Heaven'. God said he would NOT share His glory with another! No one ever told us to worship His mother!

I think she said it best. It might p*ss some people off, but the Truth tends to do that.

[PetroniusMaximus]

***Sorry. I love God. I don't fear Him.***


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